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Miles Sampa Resignation Might Bring Kafwafwa In PF
Miles Sampa
I respect Miles though is one of the politicians I have never interacted with on a personal level but I have been watching him closely because he is young, energetic, ingenuity, courageous, generous, intelligent and ambitious. You would not fail to tell that he is in the early 40s when he is around and talking freely.
Miles has resigned in one of the most mature way in the history of Zambian Politics but that should not make the PF members comfortable and think it is business as usual like the way Hon. Chikwanda presented the 2016 budget.
The resignation of Miles is a challenge on the leadership of Edger Lungu to keep the PF intact otherwise he may soon me dancing around like a soldier on punishment with a sweet potato in his hands.
President Edgar Lungu should not read the beautiful resignation letter of Miles with naivety. The President should traverse the history, in terms of membership and vision, of the PF from the time when it was in opposition, when it wreathed power away from MMD, the time of Sata’s illness, after Sata’s death, what happened at Mulungushi Rock where both Miles and himself emerged as Presidents, then the court cases and reconciliations.
The January 2015 Presidential elections and results must also be considered in terms of the gap between Edgar and HH because that speaks volumes of what may happen next year depending on how the membership issue is handled between now and 2016 General elections.
I took my time sniff around reasons Miles could have resigned, I have not spoken to him (Miles) personally because we have never interacted. Nonetheless, I can trust my well placed sources.
Without dwelling on the details, I concluded that Miles feels sidelined by Edgar Lungu. My sources doubted if Miles has ever had a one on one meeting with the President since he took power. On the other hand Miles’ intelligence has revived to him that a number of reports has been going to the President about him but the President has never engaged him. I tried to check if Miles felt bad that he has not been appointed to full Minister but I was told that he never bothered about that.
If you look back to the attributes I gave Miles in the first paragraph and consider the events after Sata’s death, I think you would have cause to worry about the PF’s unity owing to the resignation of Miles despite of the beautiful letter he wrote to the President. The resignation with immediate effect must also give you a hint of the emotions behind this resignation.
Remember that Miles was crowned President by the so called cartel (according to Richard Sakala though I don’t agree because these people hardly meet)
From my interactions with the PF which I tried to bring out in one of my articles entitled, “I am very upset with the PF today”, you will realize that Miles is not the only PF member feeling disgruntled. This is why I have suggested to the President to traverse the history of the PF and compare it to the current PF under his leadership.
I would be the first person to condemn President Edgar Lungu if PF remains the same, a year after Sata’s death, because life has to go on and change, just like the life of Sata had to change naturally even though one of my grieving brothers suspected foul play but in bemba we say “Uulila tabamucheba pakanwa” which simply means that don’t bother about what the grieving person says (I wish Kabimba new that he would not be in court).
The issue of consideration or concern about the change of the PF after Sata is how the party is evolving. Where is the PF today, how is the PF and who is composed of this party today?
I always remember what my hero and mentor FTJ Chiluba said, when he changed from supporting Sata to RB, that politics is about benefits. Who is benefiting out of PF today? Where are the core members of the PF today?
I don’t like to beat about the bush, but Edgar has embraced a lot of new members in PF and given them good positions leaving out many old members who brought PF into power. It is also a fact that many of the people who actually campaigned heavily for Edgar Lungu himself, are not near him. The goal getters are on the peripheries while he has maintained the tired legs of Shamendas, Chikwandas, Kasondes, Nkandu Luos, Katemas and some other political interns like Mwanakatwes.
The party is also led by an administrator who I appreciate for his integrity but not mobilization but that should not worry you because Mumbi Phiri and Frank Bwalya will do the running.
President Edgar Lungu seems to have replaced the team that won him the cup with players from the losing teams who have not impressed the spectators in the past. But because he is the President he has powers to do it.
Anyway, I am not a PF member and I don’t need a job in PF or government otherwise I would have gotten that from Sata but many people in PF want to be recognized and if they are not, Edgar might have a batch of resignation letters that it might be difficult to be saved by a quick consent order with Davies Chama which saw Bridget Atanga into UPND.
Let me end with a quote from the Bible which our Church Elder HH likes “Where there are no Prophets, people get out of hand, but happy the one who follows commandments.” (Prob 29:18). And the Late Sata said that the PF government will lead the Country based on the 10 commandments.
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the ruthless fascist
November 1, 2015 at 6:13 am
I’m a political sadist who prides over the decline of opponents zspecially pf,we hear by friday 6th nov over 5 original pf members will tender theie resignation letters to jameson backtooth lu ngu.state house sources
Nandime
November 2, 2015 at 12:10 pm
Ba Tunfweko please can you consider increasing yo font, its too small, look at LT, its better
takolinyenga
November 1, 2015 at 6:57 am
matako aracumbana pakwenda there is fliction on buttocks while moving but does not cause the walker stop so it is with demorcy there must be in and out movement. only worry it makes youths loose direction remember baldwin aka dean list is long lets be strong to resist pressure and get the goal like ftj tho pressed he went on
musonda mwape
November 1, 2015 at 7:00 am
I can’t get suplised how can miles sampa continue to be in a visionless leadership like pf and its ecl.And this ECL wil remain with his dunderheads in the GRZ waiting to be kicked out next year.old members of sata are no more in pf & he has replaced them why?
Memphis Shew
November 1, 2015 at 7:15 am
Hehehe… Lungu trusts so much in impunity Davis Chama, whore Mumbi Phiri and renegade priest Frank Bwalya for his 2016 victory. We know how they move thugs in those Audi caravans armed with all sorts of ammunition. We shall curtail this shit come campaign time. We’re following their thuggery campaign strategies, but we’re preparing ahead of them. Chama will have to test the gun wounds on his flesh, teach Mumbi manners to be a mother and not a father, cause Frank to regret leaving church responsibilities. WATCH OUT….!!
Onyx power @vampiros
November 1, 2015 at 7:22 am
When opposition fight had to remove sitting party in power they never win. I sense another lose from opposition next year. From past experience people move opposition leaders to unseat ruling party not the other way round.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 7:38 am
I have a hate and love for this Tayali guy. Hate as he can irritate you with praise songs for whoever he wishes to praise, love as a good observer and analyst of political situations. In this piece I give him 92% most of his views I have said them just few days ago he used the “peripherals” exactly as I said it that Edgar has banned PF founders to the peripherals of the earth. However, Edgar is a good man, PF is gone. Let’s send Edgar back to his defunct law firm in 2016 just for him to see how it feels to be sidelined.
Onyx power @vampiros
November 1, 2015 at 9:00 am
Tayali is a neutral analyst. But when he critises tribal leader he is showered with all sorts of insults.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 12:30 pm
Yeah I agree with you totally he’s one slippery character whom you can’t trust sometimes. That’s why I have a hate – love thing for him. He insulted HH thru n thru now it’s all cosy with him… After seeing that ECL has plugged his ears to constructive criticism.
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 1:45 pm
It is truly sad when a person enjoys the ride in a beautiful lincoln Navigator at high speed without checking if the simple wheel nuts are tifht. Lungu’s ride is just about to lose ALL wheels at high speed!
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 1:56 pm
kakolwe, me and you have never or rarely seen eye to eye. However, I will take my hat off to you on that point. It takes a lot for a man and especially a pf supporter to be open to criticism and be as objective as you have portrayed in that comment. My brother kakolwe, you and i simply want what is best for mother zambia. Should HH win, I expect you to keep him on his feet and answerable for his actions. At the end of the day only we zambians can secure a positive future for ourselves
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 2:41 pm
@NEZ, thanx bro. The thing is you never see eye to eye with me coz you only see ‘good’ in anything against Lungu or PF while I stand on objectivity. If HH became president of Zambia, I’ll respect him as my president and he shall receive n8 insult from me. Only fools insult their president because they did not vote for him. Take an example of Jane Mulenga.
As for ECL, am waiting to see how he reacts to this. If he stops the Lincoln, tighten type nuts: he may ride on just fine! But with Mumbi Pili? Katwishi!
Onyx power @vampiros
November 1, 2015 at 4:10 pm
Kikiki @kakolwe you have hammered this idiot pants down. He thinks he is on the right path always by insulting ecl. Good one. He is not your mate.
Advocate
November 1, 2015 at 7:54 am
Miles still thinks he was the rightful victor to take over Leadership of PF while Edgar should actually be charged for usurping power through false pretence.Showing of hands was not the approved mode of elections. Now Miles has been a deputy minister ever since while prostitutes like Dora and Monde are full cabinet ministers what does that mean.He is right to resign.
CHICCO
November 1, 2015 at 8:05 am
Thank so much for your article ba Tayali, you’ve just hit the nail on its head. I’m one of the person who voted for this Lungu because of the PF’s foundation and its composition. However, like you’ve categorically put it President Lungu has really strayed if not gone berserk with power and i wholeheartedly beseech upon him to’ve a closer look around himself, reflect and ponder about this resignation and the impeding ones carefully otherwise, members like me ‘ll choose to abstain in the 2016 tripartite general election.
Kapembwa
November 1, 2015 at 8:08 am
But this chap Tayali- he writes like a Grade 7. He is so disjointed- it’s hard for me to understand why the chap is given media space in the first place. Ni ka simpleton chabe.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 8:18 am
Then you lack analytical skills and capacity to comprehend a straight forward article. I can’t blame you we aren’t the same, how come others read and understood? It’s you I guess who should be a simpleton.
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 1:51 pm
No @JJB it is @Kapembwa who reads like a grade 7m a simpleton.
musonda mwape
November 1, 2015 at 8:08 am
@vampiro ar u blind? Can’t yu see? You ar the same who vote on tribe. this is modern world no vision less leader will cheat any zambian anymore.developments are only seen wen elections are near afterwards they forget the voters.zambians be careful let no 1 decieves you.you hav seen how failer is ECL.if you voters wil vot bak pf you wil be feeding on gaga the who 5years others wil be dying of hanger watchout!!!
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 1:58 pm
Boyi iwe, the sadness in such resignations in PF is that they will weaken the rulling party to a point where it will only leave ‘rubbish’ to take over the governance of Zambia.
mukuka
November 1, 2015 at 8:39 am
Hiring people as ministers because they helped pr. ecl into power would be as bad as clan politics Mr. Chilufya. And it is exactly why democracy doesn’t work in many african countries. It would be best if ministerial positions were filled by people based on their credentials. It would be best if ministerial positions were filled by people who went through interviews and evaluation by govt. Administration, and not thr president. This would release the president from the unnecessary responsibility of hiring every jim and jack, smart or dum (mostly dum) into cabinet. This would bring objectivity and some intellectual muscle into cabinet.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 8:49 am
Are you saying Sampa doesn’t deserve to be a full cabinet minister?, oh come on if you think people like Kambwili are smarter than Sampa then I have a pribkem with your own IQ.
mukuka
November 1, 2015 at 9:34 am
You are not understanding what I’m trying to say mr. Bidden,my point is that evaluation before hiring would keep people like hon.Kabwili and hon. dora out of cabinet. And I also believe mr. Sampa is an exceptional politician, he would pass evaluation.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 9:55 am
@mukuka I understand somehow you didn’t put it in better way. Got your point. It sounded like that’s the system in place with Edgar more so you also posted president has more better things to do than appointing like Lungu careless about who he appoints.
The Mentalist
November 1, 2015 at 8:42 am
Chilufya for the first time I have liked your analysis and not the assss lick8ng that I see in you sometimes. Well written my man.
mukuka
November 1, 2015 at 8:46 am
The president has got bigger things to worry about compared to worrying about who in the party is happy and who’s not. The task of hiring should be delegated to an administrative committee and shouldn’t be handled by the president!
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 8:56 am
You are just a praise song choir member I thought we can engage in debate. Typical of PF cadres, who hires Cabinet Ministers? A committee conducting interviews? By the way how old are you? *I might be talking to my 4 year old son’s classmate* What a waste of Govt resources sending some of you to school.
mukuka
November 1, 2015 at 9:30 am
It’s actually practical if u take a moment to think abt it. Kenya has a committee on appointments, it consists of members from majority parties and members from minority parties, the deputy speaker and is chaired by the speaker. This ensures fairness and objectivity on the appointment of ministers. The difference is that they come up with nominees AFTER interviews and evaluation, then finally the president chooses candidates. But in our case, I think that even the task of appointment should be left to a committee on appointments. This would allow the president to focus his energy on bigger country matters.
Onyx power @vampiros
November 1, 2015 at 9:44 am
@ mukuka
Stop wasting your time on these useless HH worshippers
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 9:45 am
Good are you saying this nichekeleko and wako ni wako mentality that system can work in Zambia? Nope ask yourself how on earth would one take on outsider rejects to take up cabinet posts while his own die hard members are juniors to to new comers. In US even a post of Chief justice or speaker needs approval by the Senate and at capitol hill (cabinet). Lungu lacks balls we all saw this last year as he fired hired refire PF seniors based on who pulls the strings stronger that day.
zambian
November 1, 2015 at 9:06 am
Miles Sampa not well treated,appointing mmd and upnd mps to full cabinent ministers leaving out pf mps,in the name of inclusiveness even if they can’t vote for pf,awee
CHICCO
November 1, 2015 at 9:09 am
Bushe ninani wapamine Kachema alenga impanga shasalangana? And then somebody came on the promise of keeping the flock of sheep together but due to greed and fear of them being “stolen” in the manner so to speak, he started killing and eating them one by one. dining and dancing with his newly-found friends who were once envious of the original Shepherd. However, this’s a moment and for a moment coz the intoxication he got from this episode made him plunge his ears with wax such that he couldn’t even hear the crying of a sheep being killed by his friends within his vicinity.
Onyx power @vampiros
November 1, 2015 at 9:20 am
….@@@@….The only point tayali has missed is to say no original pf contributed to the winning of ecl but zambians and mostly outsiders. The so called real pf tore the party apart making the tribal leader coming so close.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 9:34 am
This time around it won’t be that close Zambians and indeed most PF members are bent on teaching Edgar a rude lesson. Mark my words I can bet my life on this one, Edgar’s fall is eminent. I know you are a veteran on here you will be around by voting time you will say yes you chaps JJB and NEZ have been right all along.
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 9:22 am
There is always kafwafwa in the pathetic front party closer to election time. Zambians have already decided to try upnd now.
Eazy Doez It
November 1, 2015 at 10:14 am
No experiments NEZ,only pf to continue,try experiments in 2021
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 10:22 am
Pf was a failed experiment. People are regretting voting you jokers in
kayula
November 1, 2015 at 10:02 am
Tayali how many times did sampa resign in sata’s cabinet? Why didnt sata gave him full cabinet? yes the gentleman is well organised but being humble is also important. luo was promised vice presidenc look at marturity exhibited Many pipo worked for PF some are not even nearer than sampa was. Tell sampa to learn to humble himself. uku icefya kusuma
mukuka
November 1, 2015 at 10:02 am
WHAT I AM SAYING IS hiring a minister based on how he helped u get to office is bad (case of hon. Kambwili) and clan politics is bad (case of hon. Dora siliya). We should use a more unbiased means of hiring. Through evaluation of potential candidates by someone who is not the president. I think that’s the simplest form of english I can use to express myself.
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 10:24 am
The pf won’t understand your succinct point. Best way is to get rid of the
scum
lion
November 1, 2015 at 10:31 am
Hehehe hold up brabrabrabra bra sampa brabra at the end of the day its wili of the zambian people nt HH nd nt lungu ur just wasting yo tym caling people names truth be told removing the ruling party it is vry diffcult worse off in africa it took the mighty MMd to remove unip nd the mighty pf to remove MMD nd frm the look of things UPND is too weak to remove pf yes there r short coming in pf nd government bt awe UPND is too far frm wining come 2016 LUNgU is wining again people a lot of nono tongas they dnt feel comfortable voting for HH for him to win he needs 5 provinces lsk,cb,lp, nt,eastern then he cn win the elections otherwise as it stands nw its lungu in the driving sit this is the fact I’m out lion roar
mwila
November 1, 2015 at 10:40 am
Would hv easily given u 10/10 bt for mentioning that rogue ftj is ur hero and mentor,u’ll get 6/10
mwila
November 1, 2015 at 10:40 am
Would hv easily given u 10/10 bt for mentioning that rogue ftj is ur hero and mentor,u’ll get 6/10.ok
Hello Haters
November 1, 2015 at 10:53 am
Changwa was making fun of sampa’s resignation at yesterday ‘s rally in kitwe, even his praise singer tayali is also concern about how he is handling such cases, i know he has grown big headed because znbc has made him, wife and daughter reality show stars, they are feeling like the khadashians, this is the only thing he will achieve in his short presidency, frankly speaking no president has been covered like chagwa on radio and TV, his campaigns have started too early, but too late for the canoe, i can only see two people on that canoe him and his wife.
emmanuel
November 1, 2015 at 11:09 am
USELESS PF VAMPIRES. U THINK U AR SAFE? U NOW KNO GOD U FEINERS? NO VOTES 4RM MINERS NO PLACE AT PLOT ONE.
jebo
November 1, 2015 at 11:43 am
lungu at work leav him alon, if u ar not hap get out as he always says it.
The Spartacus
November 1, 2015 at 12:03 pm
Sampa alikwata amano tekuti abombele pamo naba mmd abaletuka ba yama bakwe, elo twalibakene namu 2011..his resignation has been long overdue..
Onyx power @vampiros
November 1, 2015 at 12:24 pm
……As from me I see no change coming. Pf will continue beyond 2021.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 12:41 pm
Good luck buddy but if you see too many holes overwhelming you in the boat, UPND awaits guys like you. We need a next Govt based on knowledgeable and young individuals with zeal to push our country forward. You can’t have a Govt full of pea brain characters embarrassing our country ati ministers.
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 4:04 pm
@JJB, PF may be putting itself on ‘self-destruction’ mode. That does not make UPND angelic. The same issues that have ‘allegedly’ made Miles to quit PF are the same ones which may make Garry Nkombo to quit UPND coz of GBM. Therefore, celebration of the explosion of PF will simply leave the playing field without competition. Implying that the next available idiot may take the day. A sad day for Zambia.
Onyx power @vampiros
November 1, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Reasoning power by these updn cadres leaves much to be desired . with them anything about pf govt is filth and has to be condemned.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 5:03 pm
I would rather listen to @kakolwe he is one of only three PF guys on Tumfweko with IQ above average the rest of you you make Kambwili to look the smartest in your Govt. Thats why you follow others posts and post “walasa boyi” “you hammered him” my question is when will you post something sensible for others to the the same to you? That’s where reasoning ability eludes you.
Nalubemba
November 1, 2015 at 12:29 pm
Awe mwandi pa zed filonda dye every day. Ba el kukosa bane
jobo
November 1, 2015 at 12:41 pm
umwi ulalinina uno mwaka,wapya munzi.
takolinyenga
November 1, 2015 at 12:44 pm
what in governercy is collective we question what has happened but miles knows why lets wait for his reasons. rememember what goes up must come down. miles must have been advised to quit inorder not to embrased
charlie cool
November 1, 2015 at 1:02 pm
Politica is bad. People always want to see things differently even in a straightforward situations. Sampa would have fought for his rightful position within PF. What he is dreaming to become may remain just that; a mere dream just as HH publicly dreams
JUMU
November 1, 2015 at 1:35 pm
LET HIM GO.HE IZ STUPID. HE CAN TAKE ANOTHER MILE TO BECOME KILOMITA SAMPA
JUMU
November 1, 2015 at 1:46 pm
TU PEUT PARTI N IMPORT OU. PAS MAL. DIABLE
mwensha musoyo
November 1, 2015 at 2:05 pm
It is a pity that miles could run away from solving the economical problem.
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 2:08 pm
he has seen that it is impossible to solve it under pf. we will welcome the small boy when upnd forms government in 2016
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 2:09 pm
The ‘ties that bind’ break.
Better know them or else walaponya itoloshi and remain arogant and naked!
jebo
November 1, 2015 at 2:39 pm
shake shake boi sampa not a factor to ecl nowonder he was deputy, but i like him politically he can do it.
DM
November 1, 2015 at 3:05 pm
There is an inscription on the CNN owner Ted Tanner’s office table that says and i quote “IF YOU CAN’T LEAD THEN FOLLOW AND IF YOU CAN’T FOLLOW THEN GET OUT OF THE WAY” this statement as harsh as it appears within it is hidden loyalty and submission which are the ingredients of those would be future leaders. coming to Miles Sampa, yes he might be a factor in PF but over dependence on certain people is equally bad, remember Sata did not depend on individuals so much. he got rid of those 22 rebel MPs, he got rid of UPND pact but still achieved his goal. Some people are not the end in themselves but the means to achieve certain goals and may fallout as the goal is achieved. This sounds bad but its the truth any where.
Citizen*
November 1, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Iam just observing
lion
November 1, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Aftet all tayali is human nd he express his own oppion nd it may true or nt depeding were his interest is
lion
November 1, 2015 at 3:43 pm
Bt ur saing lungu is hiring people wat these chaps who r joining UPND frm other parties wat wil hapen if HH let’s say won who wud be wt cs I see problems in UPND its lyk they dnt care hw bt hs long as they win which is some hw eish bad too many people the original members of upnd r nt safe mark my words one day people wil miss pf
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 4:12 pm
My Friend @Lion, with the UPND, it does not matter how the get there. As soon as they form government, chaps like abena GBM and the Nalumangos of these world will realise how useful they’ve been. Like shinda paper, important only up to the point when you azzhole has been wiped. After that, not needed anymore!! Somehow, I think that is how Tampa is feeling. He felt useful at the make-believe reconciliation. Now, he refuses to be shelved mu Deputy ministership.
zambian
November 1, 2015 at 4:08 pm
yes miles was sidelined but ECL and pf will win 2016 election,pipo are not ready to change govrt,even pants are washed and used again,.on the ground pf is the most attractive party in zambia.hw I wish nez could come and compaign on the ground and not online,pipo are already decided who to vote for just like u nez and your clan.
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 4:18 pm
I also wish you could see the organisation in the ‘so-called’ strongholds. Party structures have stagnated over the past 4 years and that useless SG can knit mobilize the grassroots. While the opposition regroups, the SG and his Deputy are tugged along following the president everywhere he goes (limbi naku pit latrine). It is you, ba PF, who may be shocked.
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 4:40 pm
Kakolwe you have indeed finally seen the light. If.you do not mind me asking what led to your change in mind?
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Like I told you before, It may be you coming up to the level of my reasoning. I have changed NO mind at all. I speak OBJECTIVELY and advise parties to learn from their mistakes. I’ll tell PF, Narep, PP their shortcomings. If tell UPND theirs, am branded as a beneficiary of PFools’ loot by your kind. Am happy to have you taste thus level of objectivity though I know that you’ll insult me when next I point out UPND’s shortcomings.
Lopsided chief analyst.
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 4:57 pm
Kakolwe it is good to be honest with oneself at all times. It is no lie that you have been a blind supporter of pf over the years I have been on this website. You lacked objectivity . Just last we you had no problems with the strategy pf are taking. So please do not patronise us. The evidence is here for all to see on old articles. You had a very foul mouth and we’re always anti upnd even on logical issues. Anyway it us good that you have changed for better. Welcome to . civilisation son.
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 5:11 pm
And when did I become Pro-UPND?
That is just what shows your abject stupidity. When I state the wrongs in PF, even if I ditch PF, I do not automatically become UPND. The failure of PF does not make UPND to be a success. Yes, I had a vulgar mouth in comments an repented when sensible loggers objected at my response to your Jane Mulenga. That is human. And I hope the PF learns from my observations. UPND too!
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 5:19 pm
kakolwe you seem to be running away from your own shadow kiki. Can you please point us to any of my comments that says that you are now upnd based on your alleged new found objectivity? saying welcome to civilization is not synonymous to joining the upnd.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 5:34 pm
Nope @kakolwe you dug too much into what NEZ said he said welcome to civilization not to UPND. Unless there is another posting I never saw. Actually as far as I know you you ve come out hard on PF several times b4 so this doesn’t mean you have shifted camp.
Onyx power @vampiros
November 1, 2015 at 4:20 pm
…..Kiliki ati even pants are washed and used again. Include G~strings and condoms amongst the recycled items.
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 4:39 pm
Kiki you must be living in utopia. My friend the upnd is both on the ground and online. We are covering all mediums of communication. For your information I am a man that travels frequently due to nature of my role.
NEZ
chief upnd strategist
masters
November 1, 2015 at 4:40 pm
I knew this will happen
kayula
November 1, 2015 at 4:46 pm
Kakolwe how are you? The best is to make lungu work. Imagine what Obama and USA went through. ita now USA has seen light. its not but ptience and doing the right thin
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 5:02 pm
Am alright @Kayula. Yes, if we do not point out the wrongs or the miscues that are happening within the party, then the president may NEVER know what us happening. I point out the stagnation in party structures, the groanings of the grassroots, etc. The president holds on to a non performing SG. That is suicidal. But, if actions are taken to mitigate these challenges, results may be seen.
What makes me wonder is what makes your pal @NEZ think that when my yogurt goes bad in the fridge, then the feaces in the pit next door become yogurt?
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 5:09 pm
kakolwe it is good that you are now experiencing the same frustrations that we in the opposition have been talking about. It is eivdent from what you are saying, that the the pf is a stubborn party with leaders that do not listen to advice. In other words you are saiyng that the president does not listen and that your structure system has failed. Now when NEZ comes here and says that the upnd has offered pf many solutions which have been ignored, would u deny that? If nez went on to say that the pf has failed to manage zambia because they have failed even to organise themselves internally as a party, would u refuse? Now that you have become objective, i hope to see an objective reply to these points
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 5:20 pm
LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! Give me patience for boys such as this one called NEZ.
Now that you’ve seen my objectivity. Listen to what makes me cry.
If PF stopped listening to the voice of reason and became as the main contender, UPND, which disregards its own constitution, has no internal democracy and parades itself as the ONLY hope for Zambia, how doomed can we be as a nation?
If Lungu becomes as dictatorial as Hichilema, starts making personal appointments at the fling of their whims, what better Zambia would that be?
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 5:31 pm
you talk of constitution and yet lungu has abrogated the current one by directing police on opposition leaders. By holding both minister of defence and presidential roles. By having deputy ministers at cabinet meetings. On top of this the pf promised you and i a new consitution but upto now they are using delay tactics as they are aware that the current constitition is benefifical to them as it places more power in the president and ruling party. You can go and read the upnd constitution and see that hh has alwways acted in line with the party rules. If he did not then he wouldnt have mandate and wouldnt be president of upnd. ukose kakolwe
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 5:19 pm
@kakolwe yes things are rotting in PF even some sensible members are openly expressing their frustrations with Edgar lack of leadership skill but that doesn’t make UPND to be full of angels. No, but it’s a party I see alot of intellectuals prefers and these are same intellectuals like you and me who will be willing to help our country I just can’t do that under president Lungu – he hates intellectuals I believe, that’s why he surrounds himself with weird characters as advisors and ministers.
DM
November 1, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Bloggers like mmd chief bootlicker and kakolwe have been outstanding in their contributions, for instance on every article I was looking for their wise comments to double check if the article was worthy it or not, but nowadays kakolwe leaves me guessing where he stands, very difficult to tell.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 1, 2015 at 5:27 pm
@kakolwe just debate with reasoning though yes sometimes he comes out like a cadre. If you see him condemning how PF is rotting from inside, he says it as he sees it. We have long been telling you this PF of today is not the same I knew under Sata . Edgar’s stubbornness and lack of direction will make PF go into archives like UNIP, mark my words.
kakolwe
November 1, 2015 at 5:30 pm
@DM, thanx. Where I stand politically?
Well, am the same PF supporter but I’ll not hide my head in the sand when they are not doing the right things. Elsewhere, I remain as open as before and look at the merits and demerits of the content.
Fantansy
November 1, 2015 at 5:20 pm
Very mature analysis from hon, tayali, excellent work piece and see how he has rendered due respect to all the players in his article! what a wonderful zambia it wud be wher we hold all our leaders in high esteem and only critising bad actions, the young tayali is setting standards, thx
Hello Haters
November 1, 2015 at 6:05 pm
You started so well,starting to slowly turn into the usual pathological liar you are , what is so democratic about the the kabwe pf kafwafwa for party presidency gathering? Where the one who made it through stood against a frog, and voted by a show of legs, hands and pangas, if that’s democracy by pf standards am afraid that is a strange democracy you got there,he was imposed on the party by that old lady, anyone opposing was not allowed to dare step foot near mulungushi rock, ba za yellow one the presidential candidates twabasangile by the roadside 5,7 kilometers, what was he running away from? Then came the “reconciliations” which will soon turn into “self immolations and annihilation”. Am sure the 18th October prayers are slowly opening the eyes of the pf members who were duped into accepting his party presidency.
chich david
November 1, 2015 at 7:59 pm
i salute u miles sampa 4 the good decision u have made.u’re truelly know wat u’re doing,cause under normal circumstance u can’t be lead by a blind lest u fall into a ditch.
DM
November 1, 2015 at 10:55 pm
@Kakolwe, thanks for your wise answering however i have few observations to make:
1- I have never seen NEZ and JJB expose their leaders on this platform
2- Our weaknesses should be confined within our party precinct not to give opposition advantage
3- Let us uphold brothers keeper policy.
Thanks again Kakolwe still confident of your contributions
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 1, 2015 at 11:06 pm
DM can you please confirm what you mean by expose? Maybe you meant to say that we do not objectively criticise our leader? For your information we do internally hence he doesnt come up with foolish things in public like your lungu does. Lungu does not listen to his people and has foolish advisors.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 2, 2015 at 7:42 am
I personally give objective criticism to HH if i see he acted or said something unpalatable in public. Even when he comes to power he will be analysed thru n thru but one thing about him he listens. Edgar lacks that trait, Edgar spends alot of time creating his image (as a goodie goodie to others even in MMD) at the expense of thinking, planning & building the nation.
palace
November 2, 2015 at 7:54 am
Newz learn something from kakolwe.
New Educated Zambia©❤√
November 2, 2015 at 9:11 am
How can I learn from a monkey who has only just realised that pf is a failed party kikikikiki 😂
kakolwe
November 2, 2015 at 11:52 am
Am sure that you have put your hat back on quickly, and hoped no one noticed you take it off for one intelligent monkey just 17 hours ago! That’s Kikiki with brown teeth for you!
james tembo
November 2, 2015 at 8:46 am
IF YOU CAN NOT BEAT THEM JOIN THEM.
MILES SAMPA LACKS A STRATEGY TO EXCEL HE WILL NOT BE A FACTOR WITHOUT PF.
SO LET HIM START PREPARING TO GO LIKE DOWN THE DRAIN LIKE MUCHELEKA, GBM, GUY SCOT AND MASEBA THESE ARE FINISHED POLITICIANS