Comments on: EXPOSED : HH’s Tribalism, What Election Statistics Say

By: Stanyoko

Stanyoko — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:15:05 +0000

Mr Musonda has just said what was on my mind,thumbs up!!Mr Maurice Makalu so called author i doubt the integrity of your statistics.what level of statistics did you do anyway??you are a REAL tribalist that seats behind the desk and begin to manipulate figures that suit their disguised and holier than thou kind of thinking.so what have you achieved after painting that MR HH is a tribalist?those are signs of hunger for wealth.Am sure you are trying to “market” yourself that you are a good statistician who in my opinion is just one of those bastards that has been robbed of their normal thinking capabilities.i think you are pushing us the tongas way too much.dont think all days are the same.peace!!

By: Mwendoi Kangumu

Mwendoi Kangumu — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:06:24 +0000

Tongas may be tribal, but Bembas top the list as notoriously the most tribal. Their propensity for leadership is unquenchable! They flatly reject to be led by any non-Bemba and rarely attempt to speak any language other than Bemba. They are foremost in accusing other tribes of tribalism while exonerating themselves. Their agenda is to rule and dominate the other Zambian tribes. Mr. Hichilema’s biggest sin is to vie for the Zambian presidency, a position presumably reserved only for Bembas.

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By: Maurice Makalu (Author)

Maurice Makalu (Author) — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 08:08:48 +0000

Thank you all for your comments. I hope that to those who have respect for facts and figures, they have added enlightenment to your opinions, whether you agree with my analysis or not.

I bothered to analyse election figures to RISE ABOVE some people’s illusions that they are hated. The illusion of “being hated” can be so pervasive that some have even declared, “God hates me. What wrong have I done to Him?”

I thought that since statistics hate no one, it would be wise to let them speak. I can only hope that those who believe they are hated, will learn from the statistics and find a different explanation, other than tribalism (hatred), to be the reason for their failures. In so doing, they may realign their approaches and strategies and achieve the success that has eluded them thus far.

Those who strongly disagree with my analysis, it would be beneficial for all of us, if you too, can take the time and give us your counter-analysis with FACTS and FIGURES. That is better and progressive intellectualism than declaring hatred; or simply saying, “You are wrong.” If you are right, please show us the right way, with FACTS and FIGURES, not delusional declarations.

For those who decide to keep quiet and refuse to engage in the debate because it is “foolish” or mediocre, be “encouraged” by Solomon’s saying, “In silence, even a fool seems wise.”

Thanks for your enthusiastic comments.

By: musonda

musonda — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:40:28 +0000

The assumption that higher or lower votes in a particular area is evidence of tribalism is absurd. It maybe a strong indicator of tribalism if you are determined to be biased against all other reasons that people vote for a particular candidate and instead insist votes were cast from a purely tribalist perspective which is what you seem to be arguing. if so you and Makalu ( whom you condemn) are exactly the same only on opposing sides of the pond.

You must re-examine the cabinet because your statement is grossly innacurate. Tribalism is indeed brewed by tribalism it starts with an individual that makes a choice to be prejudiced against others because of their own prejudiced beliefs about another ethnic group.They then proceed to spread the hate, formulating fake facts to back their hate filled propaganda, no different from organized racsist groups. You do not become tribalist because a Bemba or Tonga made you that way, you choose to be tribalist and justify it by transfering blame from yourself to those you dislike. From “the above” the conclusion drawn is not that Bembas or Tongas are more tribalist than the other It’s simply you who is tribalist and would like to sway the masses to follow your “facts”. Those aren’t facts those are your personal opinions that u are clothing with the “fact jacket” to make them seem believable.
“Tongas are elite” “Bembas are street vendors” tongas have become tribal because of “other tribes” especially Bembas” you’re like a contemporary ethnocentric Hitler. you glorify your own tribe like hitler did germans you then single out “the others” much like hitler did the Jews and any non “pure” caucasian and then transfer blame for all your problems to the “other group” all we need is 100 more people with your mentality and a violent streak and we could have genocide. You seem like a smart person, so you should know that when you are attacked by tribalists don’t give them a platform to further their rubbish by reacting in the same manner that they would, there’s no need to stoop that low.

By: Brad Pitt

Brad Pitt — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:01:14 +0000

you ***** honda count the non-bembas in this cabinet and stop lieing. you swine. take note, minister of agriculture Chenda is Lenje. You asshole.

Zambia’s New CabinetPosted: September 29, 2011 by sweetnessjams in News
Tags: 2011 elections, sata, state house, zambia cabinet 10THE NEW CABINET

Vice president: Guy Scott
Deputy Vice President Edgar Lungu

MINISTRY JUSTICE
Cabinet Minister S.S. ZULU
Deputy Minister N. Simbyakula

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
Cabinet Minister G.B. Mwamba
Deputy Minister P. KAUNDA

MNISTRY OF FINANCE
Cabinet Minister A. B. Chikwanda
Deputy Minister A. Kansembe

MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS
Cabinet Minister K. Sakeni
Deputy Minister Mwaliteta

MINISTRY OF HEALTH
Cabinet Minister Dr J Kasonde
Deputy Minister P. Chikusu

MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
Cabinet Minister C. Kambwili
Deputy. Dr Effron LUNGU

MNISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND LIVESTOCK
Cabinet Minister E. T. Chenda
Deputy Minister. Nicholas Banda

MINI. LABOUR , SPORTS,YOUTH & GENDER
Cabinet Minister F. SHAMENDA
Deputy Minister R. MBULU

MIN. OF COMMERCE, TRADE & INDUSTRY
Cabinet Minister Robert Sichinga
Deputy Keith Mukata
MINISTRY OF MINES
Cabinet Minster . W. Simuusa
Deputy Minister R. Musukwa

MINISTRY INFORMATION,BROADCASTING & TOURISM
Cabinet Minister – G. LUBINDA
Deputy Minister Forrie Tembo

MINISTRY OF LANDS,ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOPMENT
Cabinet Minister C .Yaluma
Deputy Minister charles ZULU

MINISTRY EDUCATION,SCIENCE & VOCATIONAL TRAINING
Cabinet Minister Dr J.T.N. Phiri
Deputy Prof. N. Wilombe

MINISTRY LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOUSING,EARLY EDUCATION AND ENVIROMENT PROTECTION
Cabinet Minister Prof. N Luo
Deputy Minister Esther Banda

MINISTRY of COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, MOTHER AND CHILD HEALTH
Cabinet Minister – Dr. J. Katema
Deputy Minister J. Kapata

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Cabinet Minister – Inonge Wina
Deputy Minister Belinda Kawandami

MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT,WORKS,SUPPLY and COMMUNICATIONS
Cabinet Ministry W. Nsanda
Deputy Minister S. MUKUPA

PROVINCES

1. CENTRAL – Phillip Kosamu
2. COPPERBELT- Yamfwa Mukanga
3. LUAPULA – Davies Mwila
4. EASTERN- Solomon Mbuzi
5. LUSAKA- Miles Sampa
6. NORTHERN – Freedom Sikazwe
7. NORTH WESTERN- J. Limata Limata
8. WESTERN – N. Mubukwanu
9. Southern –Katombola Lukulo

By: Chonya

Chonya — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:50:04 +0000

HH thanks he can always get the best even when he is not worth it. Let him (HH) remain in the dustbin as garbage.

By: Brad Pitt

Brad Pitt — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:45:58 +0000

Ba honda, you want to peddle lies and say there is no one from western, southern and north-western in sata’s cabinet.
1. You ***** where do you think wilbur simuusa is from. he is a proud PF tonga Minister of mines.

2. Inonge wina. A proud lozi.

3. Which province is Keith mukata from?

4. Is Given LUBINDA a bemba man?

5. Mwaliteta, the coloured kafue central MP is a proud southerner.

6. Bob Sichinga is an uncle to my wife and they are proud Tumbukas from miyombe.

Ba honda i wish to add on to this list, but you are a fool and fools never learn.

By: poosy

poosy — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:57:35 +0000

HH HAS GREED 4 POWER SORI MA TONGA BROS BUT THIS MAN WILL DRAG YO GOOD NAME IN THE MAD….

By: poosy

poosy — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:54:45 +0000

HH HAS GREED 4 POWER SORI MA TONGA BRO BUT THIS MAN WILL DRAG YO GOOD NAME IN THE MAD….