London – U.K. health officials are now investigating the Nigerian Evangelical preacher Pastor T.B. Joshua, after allegations that he has been advising his HIV positive followers to stop taking their medications and rely exclusively on the “power of prayer.”
BBC reports the investigation also includes some other Evangelical churches in Britain whose leaders have been making claims of HIV/AIDS “miracles.” According to the report, the investigation was prompted after some AIDS patients died after they stopped taking their AIDS medications at the advice of their church pastors. Saharareporters say at least three people have died in London after they stopped taking their AIDS medication on advice of their pastors.
T.B. Joshua, millionaire preacher and head of Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN), is well known to Nigerians and millions of other people for his expansive claims of “miracle healing.” Pastor T.B. Joshua’s ministry, according to Saharareporters, claims it has the prayer antidote for a wide range of illnesses, mostly those orthodox medicine find difficult to treat — arthritis, asthma, schizophrenia, and yes, AIDS.
The church posts videos of “miracle” healing services it holds in south London on internet. According to BBC, the website of the Synagogue Church of All Nations has been making claims of HIV and AIDS miracle healing. The church recommends its “anointing water” as remedy for HIV infection and AIDS.
BBC reports the case of Mary Buhari, a Nigerian woman living in London. Mary Buhari, who is HIV positive, said a representative of T.B. Joshua’s Synagogue Church of All Nations told her in a phone conversation that church prayers could cure her of AIDS. The church website proudly proclaims its cures:
“Mrs Badmus proudly displays her two different medical records confirming she is 100% free from HIV-Aids following the prayer of Pastor T B Joshua.”
When BBC made direct inquiry from the church on its claims of HIV and AIDS cure, the church responded evasively:
“We are not the healer. God is the healer. Never a sickness God cannot heal. Never a disease God cannot cure…We don’t ask people to stop taking medication…Doctors treat; God heals.”
Professor Jane Anderson of the Center for Study of Sexual Health and HIV, according to BBC, comments on Evangelical church claims of HIV and AIDS healing:
“We see patients quite often who will come having expressed the belief that if they pray frequently enough, their HIV will somehow be cured…We have seen people who choose not to take the tablets at all so sometimes die.”
A British MP also commented on the practice of preachers telling their followers not to take their medication:
“It’s dangerous to the public and dangerous in terms of public health….It’s irresponsible…Pastors should instead come off the air on it, look at things much more seriously, and not give this completely wrong advice to the public.”
T.B. Joshua’s ministry began in 1989, after he claimed he saw a heavenly vision in which God spoke to him, saying,
“I am your God. I am giving you a divine commission to go and carry out the work of the Heavenly Father… I would show you the wonderful ways I would reveal myself through you in teaching, preaching, miracles, signs and wonders for the salvation of souls…”
He became immensely popular in Nigeria after his church began claiming power to heal illnesses such as AIDS, cancer, barrenness and paralysis. His church now has branches in Ghana, U.K., South Africa and Greece.
Francis M
November 24, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Christ in the parable of the good Samaritan, he tell us that the man who was robbed, beaten and left for dead was taken to an inn a type of the Hospital to be hospitalized. Which means God is not against taking scientifically proven medicine because the is no divination of any sort involved. Go to the hospital imwe. Charismatic without knowledge is deadly. See how you overzealous for nothing Pentecostals are denting even truth loving Pentecostals. Im a Pentecostal but not these propagandalist of prosperity and power of positive thinking gospel, an miracle healings. A day is coming when every man’s work shall be tried by fire to see of what sort it was made of. 1Cor 3:13-15 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Francis M
November 24, 2011 at 6:39 pm
It’s not about inferiority complex neither are attacking TBJ some of us, we are just stating facts. These fake pastors mushrooming in Zambia , Africa are not as a result of TBJ, however that does not mean we have no rite to scene whoever says he is a man of God because the Bible tells me to try them. I have the right to know the authenticity of the man leading me or preaching to me. If demons can question the authenticity of some pretending to godly how about me? Check Act19:13-15 13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
Wake up don’t let a demon be more wiser than you. As for me and my church we will sensor any one TBJ inclusive. If he is genuine bravo! Praise God but, if he is not he too is not exempted from scrutiny.
Steve Msimuko
November 24, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Ati God helps those who help themselves (Lesa afwa uyiyafwa) what a saying indeed whoever came up with such a saying is so foolish. Where is it ever written in the Bible? Its your faith connected to the spirit of God in you that will bring complete healing in your body. Some pipo go to SCOAN receive their healing but they go back to leave sinful lives, and what does God do, he removes the healing and you die miserably then blame TB Joshua. No no no and a big no, thats why at SCOAN they tell you “go and proclaim what God has done for your life and do not sin no more”. Thats the catch word do not sin no more. You receive your healing then you come back to Lusaka or the streets of London and start drinking and
womanizing heavily, and then die, do you blame TB Joshua for that or God? No people have got everything wrong. TB Joshua is a true man of God, and for sure God says “Do not touch my anointed”. So be careful what you say about him you are only inviting curses on your life!!!!
the crying free man
November 24, 2011 at 6:57 pm
But there was no aids the time the bible was being written!
Bakalulu
November 24, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Lesa tapela muminwe, apalamikila fye mupepi. U need to claim your God given miracle for u to be healed, believe that indeed he z healed you and it shall be done. Im a witness to Gods miracles and the power of prayer, healed from a heart ailment. Word of caution-dont abandon your medication. God works through people
Owizo
November 24, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Let’s not miss the point pipo; whether TBJ is, is not man of God; the fact still remains God Almighty is the ultimate healer…
Dj stevol(sasintha baby) chikaya 98.5 fm
November 24, 2011 at 7:38 pm
CAREFUL!!! Muzafendela
The DokTech
November 24, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Oh Zambians, why go far? Remember Dr. Chiluba went to T.B Joshua, he said Chiluba was healed, the same problem that he later died from(heart problem). Also that late minister who died in nigeria, after he was pronounced healed by the same Joshua. Do you know what Benny Hinn said after his failed crusade in nigeria. He said had made a big loss. Remember our very own Nevers Mumba said he had benefited more from politics than religion. All this and you still don’t the miracles are scam.
Man of God from kabwe bread of life
November 24, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Am getting concerned with tumfweko.You were on bread of life today you are on tb joshua. are YOU satanist or what coz its too much.You need jesus christ for you to appreciate the power of God.Miracles are real and by the way you havent commented on st joseph in chifubu were the church entrance collapsed.ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE DEVIL HAS CHOSEN TUMFWEKO TO FIGHT CHRISTIANS BUT MWACHEPA SANA
p450
November 24, 2011 at 8:42 pm
@man of God from kabwe BLCI, i agree with u…i don’t understand why Tumfweko keeps enjoying persecuting christians when the bible clearly states that judgement is for God.. if you don’t have better things to write about, close your website and stop inviting curses upon yourself..u should mind that ‘ifintu fya ba lesa tefya kuangalilako..’ bisopo!!!
Lenje don
November 24, 2011 at 8:53 pm
If u think the name of jesus can b used in vain tough luck,it cant happen. T b joshua cant use jesus name for 22yrs and still remain powerful. Nga kale asebana. So nga mulefwaya akasebane mukalolela mukanaka..
eish!
November 24, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Damn this man is hot! Eish!
eish!
November 24, 2011 at 9:02 pm
The eyes, the cheekbones, the ka nose, those lips! He’s so edible! Awe sure.
Mojo
November 24, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Do I need extra miracles? Just breathing is a miracle!
star child
November 24, 2011 at 9:49 pm
p450 and man of god from kabwe i think youre both very shalow and you do not think why are you blaming tumfweko. why cant you take an insight and think about why all these posts about the churches in bread of life its all about succes matterial wealth which your bishop has some people go to church looking for camfort most of them go there becouse they are hungry very few go there genuinly i can challenge you to this TB joshua started in 1989 but i only started hearing about him last year i know benny hinn i know these guys from tbn those founders but where the hell has TB joshua come from.
most of you people have forgoten the fruit of the hollyspirit which is simple love joy peace peace pacience kindness faithfullness long suffering self control i cant even understand you the so called man of God why the fuck do you give a damn about TB joshua when your own bishop dinounces him as a frowd so are you a frowd let God himself judge neither you TB joshua no Imakando have the right to judge but i can tell especially you so called man of God you are a hipocrit here is a peace of advise you peace of shit meditate think through what i have told you and then you can judge peace be with you. and for the record youre a frowd for calling yourself man of God thats blesfemy
yeh
November 24, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Indeed, da man TB Joshua is a Great Gift to da intire world. May God annoint him more. In Jesus name! AMEN.
watiyel
November 24, 2011 at 10:15 pm
mark 16:
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall
speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay
hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right
hand of God.
why argue on something which is straight forward God has given the believers power to perform divers kinds of miracles which includes healing of AIDS. my bible tails me in Isaiah that …. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of
our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
1 Pet 2:24
the bible says he is the same yesterday today and forever. if he healed yesterday what would stop him from healing today. some people need deliverance.
The truth hurts.
November 24, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Th problem wit these church crooks & their blind followers is th@ they wil tel u 2 hav faith 2 b healed & if u ar not, they wil say th@ u neva had enough of it! Pliz sum1 shud invent a ‘faithmeter’ 2 measure faith so th@ we wil b catchin these liers! So they wil say th@ pipo who die afta being prayd 4 by tuberclosis Joshua had little faith. Very annoyin & irritatin. Indeed religion is th opium of th pipo especially th poor. U wil hav eyes but wil not see th@ Joshua is just a businessman lyk Mikalile.
These guys hav no special powers. Joshua falsely predicted (prophesised) war in Zed. It’s also nt long ago th@ t.d Jakes was dead scared of comin 2 Zed 4 fear of a ‘strange’ disease when he was makin cash in R.S.A. Why didn’t he pray 4 God’s protection?
Iwe chi Joshua oga leka ukubepa abantu bobe & concentrate on investin yo money on earth while they invest in heaven by tithing & umutulo. Umunobe Joe Imakando is busy investin & has xpanded his company (church). He wil b havin more clients. Spare their miserable souls.
Naimwe tuma followers twakwe, AIDS KILLS with or without Joshua & u wil die forever (eternally). So just take yo ARVs faithfully 2 prolong yo lives. Who knows, a cure might b found while u ar on medication especially with th advances made so far. Napwisha.
Subi
November 24, 2011 at 10:38 pm
F.U.C.K GOD! F.U.C.K MIRACLES! F.U.C.K PRAYER! F.U.C.K THE BIBLE! F.U.C.K TB JOSHUA! F.U.C.K evry1 supportin hz ignorant A.S.S
Isaac
November 24, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Isaiah 8:20 ‘To the law and to the testimony: if they do not speak according to this word,it is because there is no light in them.’ Lam.2:9 ‘…:the law is no more;her prophets also find no vision from the LORD.’ TBJ does not meet this criteria from the bible,therefore by no means can he be a true prophet. Take it or leave it. Find out if TBJ keeps the law of God as stipulated in the ten commandments. Read James 2:10 and 1 John 3:4
B52
November 24, 2011 at 11:03 pm
@ Subi, no need to insult God even if you are an athiest. You seem too upset!! Walapoka! People are just sharing views. Let them Christains pray at the same time take ARVs. Period.
patty
November 24, 2011 at 11:26 pm
who is this is British mp questioning Gods power?? God is so powerful and he can use anyone and anything to show it.Anything from God is tested to know if its truly from Heaven.Go on Prophet,show them that the ‘The Ancient Of days’ is truly alive,he was and forever shall be.I love you Lord Jesus and continue performing miracles through your chosen ones.For me to live is Christ Jesus and to die is to gain.Thank you for the cross.
dfgh
November 24, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Tumfweko You ARe Worse Than Satan,Learn To Investigte Not Concoct,Where Is Your Journalism Ethic.
First Lady
November 24, 2011 at 11:36 pm
To those tht are sick, dnt worry, take yo mediction, be prayerful, hav faith & believe tht God wil heal u. U cn even die wth the Aids on ths earth bt believ me, u wil hav eternal life without Aids.
The earth hs already bn polluted by the devil therefore, jst continue sowin seeds of righteousness so tht u become part of God’s kingdom.
Wetha T.B joshua is of God or nt, the almighty God knws.
Agness
November 24, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Thank you B52 for your response. Christians, let’s pray for unbelievers so that they will see the light of the gospel. We stand on Ephesians 1:17-18 that the Lord may give unto each one the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him and that the unbelievers eyes of understanding may be enlightened that they may know Jesus. God is not willing that anyone should perish in sin, so He waits patiently for all to see the truth, i.e. Jesus. It is well with the righteous in Jesus’ name.
smwashia
November 25, 2011 at 12:03 am
subi may the lord .4give u, and its my first 2 hear tht .TB JOSHUA he z man of God. Remember God almighty z a healer belive n him u shal be healed.
NAKUYAMO KALU
November 25, 2011 at 1:15 am
As much as we believe that God is a healer we as well be wary of the teachings in Mathew 24: 24, and Mark 13:22.
The two scriptures tell us how false prophets will be perfoming mirracles in Jesus name. Mind you these false prophets will be healing even raising people from the dead but the bible says do not believe them.
The question is how do we identify them?
To me TBJ ning’anga alabuka which is against the bible teachings.
And this TBJ only fortels bad things. Its either death calamity and what does he do about these things? Literally nothing. Not even a prayer from this man. Busy collecting expensive gifts from his unsuspecting followers.
Ukukokola mukucita ichibi does not mean what you have been doing is right. Time will come an ending to that. Amen
Legacy Young.
November 25, 2011 at 2:41 am
People!!!! only true believers can see that this is close to the end,know your stance then GOD will Help you because thats what the bible say…ONLY THOSE WHO CAN BELIEVE WILL BE SAVED AND ONE PERSON ONLY HAD THE POWER TO HEAL…be careful with those who claim that they know GOD…
Joseph Nyirongo (Malawi)
November 25, 2011 at 2:43 am
I follow Church service @ SCOAN thru Emmanuel.tv. I can truthfully witness that the LORD works wonders in the Arena of Liberty through Prohet TB Joshua, wisemen: John Chi, Racine, Harry,Chris and others.In fact, many people receive deliverance by touching the tv screen, the Annointing Water, also strong belief that is they are praying.
Prophet TB Joshua & SCOAN wisemen have always hinted that with FAITH one can be delivered from whatever bondage,in Jesus Christ name be it cancer, HIV inclusive. Also, they also injform us that satan inflicts pain like diseases on people and The Living LORD removes such a bondage, it just takes Faith nothing else.
I bear witness that this healing is from GOD, also believe that people tend to question a lot because it’s all the work of Holy Spirit beyond man’s thinking and imagination, one day tune in to emmmanuel tv, May the Good LORD’s mercy & favour be on us. I have strong belief, faith that the Blood of Jesus Christ will cleanse me of any illness be it HIV, Amen….
chilbit
November 25, 2011 at 4:44 am
PROPHET TB JOSHUA IS A TRUE MAN OF GOD.HE IS A VESSEL OF GOD.THE BIBLE IN PSALM 103V1-3 SAYS IT ALL.THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE FAITH SHOULD STOP CONDEMNING TB JOSHUA.THE SPIRIT OF GOD OPERATES IN DIFFERENT WAYS IN THESE MEN OF GOD.IN THE BOOK OF ACTS THE BIBLE SAYS THERE’S ONLY ONE SPIRIT BUT WITH DIFFERENT WORKS.THOSE PASTORS WHO HAVE NO GIFT OF HEALING ARE THE ONES WHO DECIEVE PEOPLE.PASTORS ARE GIFTED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.LONG LIVE TB JOSHUA.GOD BLESS YOU AND MAY HE CONTINUE USING YOU.
wamuza
November 25, 2011 at 4:56 am
Only God is true and all men fake except those He has truly called to His ministry.
All I see in TB Joshua is a misrepresentation of God. The guy should preach the gospel to the huge crowds that flock to him and if his gospel is true some among his hearers may then know of true spiritual healing which is incomparable to all this fake healing. Does he himself know God ? I do not know but how can you give what you do not have ? That is the starting point I feel. Men must turn from sin and have Christ ruling in their lives. Matthew 6:33
MSH
November 25, 2011 at 7:24 am
iwe chi Subi insulting wont solve anything u are just adding more sins to your life
Steve Msimuko
November 25, 2011 at 7:52 am
@ Nakuyamo Kalu, you are the one who only sees negative things in TB Joshua and you have never bothered to take time and watch what the man of God does when preaching. I believe you must either be Catholic, Seventh Day or UCZ i was once in your shoes full of unbelief and doubts and questioning these miracle working ministries. TB Joshua tells the pipo that there is a calamity coming let us pray and fast that these things should not happen. Things happen because its God’s will or the Devil’s plan that they happen.TB Joshua prophesies a lot of good things to pipo that attend the service such as ‘God will bless you and your business” and that happens, is that not a good thing, ehhh? Stay with your unbelief and remain miserable. One thing you must know is that you might enjoy on earth and have all the riches but without Christ in you all those things are in vain. Let Christ reign in you and you will inherit everlasting life which TB Joshua also preaches. Long live the man of God and long live the word of God!!!!
Sampa
November 25, 2011 at 7:52 am
May God continue inreasing you man of God, the thing and doings of God are foolishness to the natural mind…I thank God for you.
sotter
November 25, 2011 at 8:02 am
This man of your God is up to killing people
Why wont God him self come and hill these sick pipo????????cure my ass i got bumps.stop lying to pipo that need reall help.
Peswa
November 25, 2011 at 8:03 am
Subi, take care and mind your language. God is God and he caanot fail to heal.
Prophet TBJ, keep on doing God’s will.
LEWIS CHAMA
November 25, 2011 at 8:22 am
PEOPLE PLEASE HELP ME BECA– USE I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHY IN THIS AGE WITH PROPHETS BUT NO ONE HAS EVER EXPLAINED THE BOOK OF REVELATION. MOREOVER THIS BOOK HAS SYMBOLIC FEATURES SUCH AS 1. THE BEAST 2. THE NUMBER 666 JUST TO MENTION BUT A FEW. WHY I HAVE THIS CONCERN IS THAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION CAN HELP MANY PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE PRESENT DAY HAPPENS AND WHAT SHALL COME. CAN ANY OF THE PROPHETS TELL ME THIS MAN CALLED 666 FOR THE BIBLE SAYS ITS A NUMBER OF A MAN. HELP ME PLEASE!
analysit
November 25, 2011 at 8:34 am
have you ever wondered who Jesus talked about when he said,”they will come to me saying lord,didn’t we do miracles in your name?”and he will tell them that,”i dont know you.”be resoanable.the doktech has brought out good points.chiluba died after claiming he has being healed by T.B.J. my friend got the same problem after claiming he was healed from epelapsy.Jesus healed once and for all and not giving excuss of the person doing something bad.think about those Jesus talked of and you tell me if you still blind to see them.and you say they are men of God.which God,my ass.
Kennedy Kalala
November 25, 2011 at 8:37 am
Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God. Now if the patients in question do not take time to hear the word then it follows that they are ‘Men’ of little faith and therefore, they may have no healing, simple
analysit
November 25, 2011 at 8:38 am
why haven’t this guys being in hospitals to cure people.cause they know were the need is needed and they shan,why?if you want to donate money,you wil go to ophanages coz you know who needs it.this is all a simple thing that you should think through and not just follow blindly coz the guy has mentioned Jesus.think and not just shit.
Da Prophet
November 25, 2011 at 8:53 am
If you have nothing to talk about keep quiet. Yesterday it was Bishop Imakando, today it is Prophet T.B. Joshua. You pipo you will go to hell if you are not careful. Show us that you know how to comment and I will show you that hell is for sinners. Repent!!!!
senior prophet
November 25, 2011 at 8:55 am
“I am your God. I am giving you a divine commission to go and carry out the work of the Heavenly Father… I would show you the wonderful ways I would reveal myself through you in teaching, preaching, miracles, signs and wonders for the salvation of souls…”
lelonilelo
November 25, 2011 at 8:59 am
It amazes me to see how some christian who cant accept facts and criticisms,TBJ can be playing a trick on the populace take facts in and digest them instead of wallowing in glorified gag about some scriptures that forbids challenging some so called self anointed pastor/prophets.Man are driven by them desire non is born any special wake up remember What happen to Ben Hinn.
Chuma
November 25, 2011 at 9:10 am
Jesus is the same Yesterday , today and forever and his word is the living word. He is a merciful God and the bible says all things are possible to him that believeth, God heals, doctors treats.God will heal you upto the level of your faith.people are always encouraged to walk in their faith.God is in some people eg. TB Joshua whether we like it or not, He is God for us all and God with us.Holiness and righteousness brings us in the presence of God,for Jesus does fill us with the Holy Ghost en speaks,dweleth in us. Lets thank God for the gift of these men of God in Jesus name amen
BAMWINE
November 25, 2011 at 9:15 am
@man of God from Kabwe follow the post carefully, Tumfweko is not attacking chistian but letting us know what is happening.
SUBI IDIOT
November 25, 2011 at 9:26 am
YOU IDIOT SUBI,YOU ARE A CURSED PERSON.MIND UR LANGUAGE DEVIL!!!NEVER INSULT MY GOD,MAKAKA SWINE IMBWA.
worshipper at Bread
November 25, 2011 at 9:30 am
Subi, God have mercy on you!!!!
MWILA MUMBI
November 25, 2011 at 9:42 am
FIRST OF ALL YOU CAN ONLY BE HILED IF YOU BELIVE,AND SECOND NEVER SHULD YOU CALL A MAN THAT HAS DEDICATED HIS WORK TO GOD FAKE(PASTOR OR PROPHET)OR CON DAM THEM IT IS A SIN AND YOU ARE CASEING YO SELF,GOD HAS SAID NEVER SHLD YOU TOUCH MY ANNOITED OR SPEAK EVIL OF THEM,IF THY ARE FALSE HE HIM SELF WILL EXPOSS THEM.SO MAIND WHT YO SAY AND BE WISE DNT JST SAY THINGS WIT OUT THNKIN THE TONGUE IS THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON IF YA DNT NO IT CAN DO WANDERO– USE THINGS,SO THNK!
vinsys
November 25, 2011 at 9:43 am
tumfweko.com dont report on what u dont understand. God heals, its a fact. Leave the man of God alone. His message is very consistent.He always says its the Lord that heals. yashani kanshi!
Golden Samukoku
November 25, 2011 at 9:59 am
MIRACLES ARE REAL, THE MIRACLES WHICH TBJ IS DOING ARE BIBLICAL. READ PSALMS 103:1-4. THE BIBLE IS VERY CLEAR THAT GOD HEALS ALL THE SICKNESS. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS TO BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS PROPHETS. THE WORD ALL IN THE BIBLE MEANS HIV AND AIDS INCLUDED. ALL THAT IS REQUIRED FOR YOUR MIRACLE IS FAITH.