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MEDICAL Doctors Speak Out “GOVERNMENT On-Call Allowances Are A NUISANCE”
Editor,
I would be grateful if you provided me the opportunity to be heard on your forum. As you may perceive from the (PDF) document accompanying this message, I do not speak for myself, but for a group – a group of medical doctors who have sacrificed time away from family for the sake of furthering their careers and gaining skills to better the quality of service delivered to all Zambians; a group whose families back in Zambia have been taken to the edge of desperation by the thoughtless action of the (at the pertinent time) Permanent Secretary at Public Service Management Division (PSMD).
The community of Zambian medical doctors has collectively fought long and sometimes bitter battles to improve conditions of service purely in the interest of being better able to deliver their very best to the community. The casualties of these battles are not the Zambian doctors scattered in Botswana, Namibia and in every part of the world, but the Zambian tax payer who paid for the at least 7 long years of training that other countries receive on a silver plate every time a Zambian trained doctor is employed away from Zambia. One of the major hurdles we encountered along the way was (and still is) the government ceiling of no other civil servant being able to exceed the salary scale of (not so) permanent secretaries. The medical doctors on-call allowance initially worked on number of hours clocked attending to patients whilst on call. The pattern of work done from on-call records over many years demonstrated the need to have a uniform or flat rate according to the level of proficiency. The cardinal point is that on-call allowance primarily serves to improve doctors conditions of service above the clearly ridiculous and outdated policy that makes permanent secretary conditions of service the salary scale limit. The doctors in management positions at Ministry of Health Ndeke House or in management positions all over the country may not (and in many cases do not) attend to calls as in actually attending to patients at odd hours, but are also recipients of this call allowance based on this very same principle. It is for this very reason that the removal of on-call allowance for doctors on study leave as directed in the accompanying letter is (without mincing words) criminal.
This directive will not make Zambian doctors studying abroad want to come back home, but has the boomerang effect of raising resentment for a an action that ultimately penalises innocent families back home by denying them much needed income and makes us more determined to get our suffering families out of Zambia.
In summary, what is called medical doctors on-call allowance is effectively part of a medical doctors’ salary and it is malicious, illegal and fundamentally immoral to deny us this without prior warning and without negotiations with our representatives.
The PS PSMD at the time may not have been privy to this aspect or fundamental nature of so called on-call allowance and I am sure that if this was explained to him or her, the (mis)directive would never have been issued. The other possibility is that they were fully aware of the nature of medical doctors on-call allowance and had either a fit of malice (knowing they wouldn’t be re-appointed) or a directive from an election campaign team to beef up the brown envelopes. I am therefore appealing to you Mr Peter Lesa Kasanda, PS at PSMD to review this (mis)directive and institute the necessary investigations that reversed and negated decades of hard fought conditions of service battle ground in less time than it takes to say “bwafya”. If, Mr Kasanda, you determine that government is still within its rights to deny us part of our salary, I hope that this will be effected in all future contracts of medical doctors going on study leave so that they know well in advance what will take place and thus prepare themselves mentally and financially (and are able to make an informed decision about whether to go on study leave or not) instead of it coming as a sudden shock to their dependants and families. Many Zambians have false pictures and illusions about what life on a student’s allowance abroad amounts too. It is even harder when that barely enough student allowance has to be stretched to care for family back home and the neighbours in your country of study are not neighbourly enough to go and ask for some salt or sugar.
I was privileged to be an intern at Ndola Central Hospital when our now national President Mr. Michael Sata came and addressed us as we staged a go-slow (which I am not so proud of). We (however) had our then miserable salary of a junior doctor raised from fifty thousand kwacha (K50,000) to two hundred and fifty thousand kwacha (K250,000). I therefore have every confidence that this error will be sorted out with the same speed it was effected.
It is my sincere hope that (in the medium rather than the long term) the mischievous policy that prevents highly skilled Zambian trained labour worth billions of US dollars on the global labour market (and whose value in terms of Zambian lives lost no one appears to care about) from rising above the monetary and material precincts of a glorified party cadre (permanent secretary) is scrapped away with the contempt it rightly deserves. The simplified version of this is that we are so petty and too busy engaged in squabbles about how large the ego of a permanent secretary should be that we forget that the currency we are dealing with is human life not US dollars or Kwachas. One other alternative would be to eventually detach medical doctors from the civil service with conditions peculiar to their profession and have this detachment enshrined somewhere in the constitution – the constitution protects human life and rights thereof and medical doctors spend their entire career protecting this life. It therefore seems fairly logical that we of all professions should have more than a mere foot in the constitutional door (as always some smarty pants will read this as my ego).
I must acknowledge the efforts of my colleagues in medical leadership who over the years have committed many hours outside their normal hours to negotiate our collective conditions of service. I have no doubts also that as the First Lady, Dr. Kaseba, is numbered amongst us, the dim light at the end of the tunnel that our most needy patients see will steadily grow brighter.
Yours in national service,
Seriously pissed off medical doctor on study leave.
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shameless
December 20, 2011 at 1:03 pm
really pissed off but better fight for all health workers who administer the drugs you write after seeing the patient. dont be very selfish as we perceive you to be as other health practitioners
shi mpundu pabwato
December 20, 2011 at 1:06 pm
rubbish complaints. who needs these so called doctors anyway when there are plenty and cheap traditional doctors.
Kaoma
December 20, 2011 at 1:09 pm
well i do not see what the fuss is all about. Government is just saving resources. On call allowance is paid to Doctors who actually spend time on call at the hospital (24 hrs) treating patients and this happens twice or three times a week. I can’t see why someone who is studying and is never actually on call should be paid this allowance.
The issue should be rather be that permanent secretaries should not get this allowance either.
conman
December 20, 2011 at 1:16 pm
i agree with these guys condemning these tuma chakolwa doctors. why go on study leave and expect to be paid on call allowances? are you chaps normal or what. you even have the balls to start wailing loudly. we know its Christmas time but please this is not the way to make an extra buck. performing an illegal abortion can earn you that extra buck you need.
QUEST
December 20, 2011 at 1:18 pm
imwe ba Doctor mwabema chamba or nichani. You guys get more money than teachers who even ensure that you get the skills you are talking about but they are not crying like you. be serious you chose to save the people not to enrich your self.
bwalya kamwinko
December 20, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Ok the doctors concerns are genuine, they should get what is due to them. I think even engineers should rise to the occassion and demand for descent minimum payrise in public service if the intensity of training is anything to go by. Lawyers at one time had to bargain for a fair deal, but engineers still sleeping with their heavy mathematically charged certificates!
lolly Dr
December 20, 2011 at 1:46 pm
This on-call issue will raise a lot of sleeping dogs,definitely some dirty linen will be dried in public now.
firstly i personally think its a misnomer,that allowance as said above is really part of the salary(those were the agreed terms.problem is because they r Drs and stupidly accepted it without formalizing it(reason being some ****** PS thot that if put together their take home wud be more than his salary).
bottom line,Dr kaseba shud wake up and fight for her fellow dr just like mwanawasa did for the lawyer fraternity.
Alfred
December 20, 2011 at 2:06 pm
I can see those who are not previleged to be in the noble profession are so jealous and obviously ignorant about what it takes to be one.i cant even post my view because the class of the audience here is somewhat low compared to that of 7years of study.get info on what happens in the medical world,that way you wont expose your lack of education.a teacher works for 8hour and a doctor works
George
December 20, 2011 at 2:12 pm
I concur you bro, the issue of offering on-call allowance to only one cadre, doctors in this case only, is very frustrating, indeed Government whilst appreciating the inputs of doctors should consider other health practitioners some who spend sleepless nights take care of the patients when the doctor has gone after doing his/her call on that patient.
Tutombeko.com
December 20, 2011 at 2:14 pm
A DOCTOR IS A PERSON WHO MAINTAINS OR RESTORES HEALTH OF A PERSON OR ANIMALS.iTS A NOBLE PROFESSION DESPITE 7 YRS STUDYN ITS NOT MEANT TO PAY HIGH WAGES BUT ONE SHOULD SACRIFICE TO SAVE LIVES OF PIPO OR ANIMALS.WHETHER IN ZAMBIA THEY TRAIN LONG (7 YRS) ,IN RUSSIA IT IS JUST 4 YRS MOST UR INFACT BETTER THAN OURS.IF YOU XTRA BUCKS TO BY BEERS & **** WHORES LIKE WE DO,BUY XPENSIVE CARS ‘EN QUIT DO COURSE LIKE CAT,CIMA,ACCA,CIPS,BUISNESS COURSES LIKE ENTREPRENEURSHIP YOU WILL BE HOME & DRY…i STUDIED FOR 2 YRS ONLY BUT I GET MORE THAN $4,000.I DO DEALS EARNIN XTRA BUCKS LIKE $20,000.DRIVE BIG CAR,BOUGHT ONE 4 MY WIFE BOUGHT ONE 4 MY GIRLFRIEND WHO IS DOCTOR…THEY ARE ALL V6 ENGINES…
uncircumcised William
December 20, 2011 at 2:16 pm
THIS COMPLAINT SHOULD NOT COME FROM DOCTORS. IN ZAMBAI THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE GETTING YHIS ALLOANCE IN THE MOH. INFACT THERE CO-ALLOWANCE IS BIGGER THAN WAT NURSES AND CLINICAL OFFICERS WHO DO THE JUNKY WORK GET AS SALARIES. THIS DOCTOR DOMINANCE MUST BE ENDED OR ELSE THE HEALTH SECTOR IN ZAMBIA WILL NEVER TICK
Wanu Ngwee
December 20, 2011 at 2:39 pm
South Africa has introduce in the public service a job classification and weighting system, which allows professionals to be paid at the same level as PS or Directors commensurate with experience & the nature of service they render. It’s adopted from similar practices overseas and is called (OSD), i.e. Occupational Specific Dispensation. I think we should consider the same coz there are very few senior posions for doctors to look up to in GRZ in order to have a decent living.
MJ
December 20, 2011 at 2:53 pm
It is no doubt that Medical Doctors are the most highly trained individuals in the Medical field. However, it must be pointed out that these caders to do not and can not work in isolation. We have other caders like the Nurses, Clinical officers and other paramedics who contribite greatly to the patient care at our various Health Centres in the Country. It surprises me that when it comes to better conditions of service the attention is only on Medical Doctors, forgetting that these people work in a team referred to as “Health managemnt team”. For the imformation of those who may be ignorant, currently and practically, most of the District Hospitals, ART Clinics, and Rural Health centres are being managed by Clinical Officers and Nurses. It is also worthy mentioning to the public that those individuals who attend to you at various District and General Hospitals at Out Patient Departments are Clincal Officer, trained to do most of the jobs in the abscence or presence of the Doctors, this is plain truth. These are the caders who are greatly neglected by the gonernment but they are faithfully discharging their duties in those remote areas.
Further more, who says a person should be paid for what he has not worked for?. While I agree with the editor on questioning the paying of on Call allowances to Doctors ( in managerial positions) who do not attend to patients, it is also fair to state that even those on study leave do not attend to patients, hence should not be entitled to the same. Conditions of services should be improved to all caders in the healtht Profession. Can any one imagine that the night shift differential allowance for a clinical Officer is less tha K 150,000= and yet these guys are over overworked. Some of them are in extremely very remote places, but when you look at their rural hardship allowance, it is a pity. When it comes to staff retention programs they are not caterd for. The governmetn should really do something about these understaffed and yet dedicated staff.
We have nurses and other cadres on study leave but are subjected to the same suffering like any one. The brain drain in the health Sector is across the board and not limited to the doctors alone. Internally, many nurses, Biomedical technologist, clincal Officers and Pharmacists etc have joined NGOs in search of greener pastures, leaving Government hospitals understaffed. These NGO have received such individuals on a silver plata. Infact this has a lesser bearing on our Health provision in our country because wherever these caders have gone, it the same Zambian people they are serving, hence the retaintion of the training benefits, unlike many of the Doctors who go to serve people of the foreign land without our people benefiting.
As a remedy,most of these same cadars ( Nurses, Clinical Officer etc, have opted to pursue other professional causes which enable them leave this poorly paid Health professional job.Let their conditions of services be improved as well so that they are retained if public health provision service.
Back to the many issue. It is morally Illigal and immoral for the editor to demand for what he has not worked for. This is tantamount to money laundering and should not only apply those in managerial position but to anyone, wether on study leave or not. After all, these same study leaves are paid by the government. Even in case of a scholership, you are still maintained on government payrol. So what is the cry for?
bwalya kamwinko
December 20, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Alfred be advised that the audience is well informed more than you can imagine with over 7 years of education you are talking about in areas of study where the brain need to spin! don’t underate the readers and infact we are reading this from very far not Zed for your information. quite frankly am an engineer who has trained for over 8 years and cant take such narrow and unresearched sentiments from you. learn to respect other pipo.
mr paris
December 20, 2011 at 3:42 pm
The truth is that all rural health centres, urban centres and 98.99% of outpatient depts are run by eithers nurses, clinical officers, or CDEs who work in most instances especially in rural areas 24hrs, 7days, 365 days.
why should our honourable Drs claim only for themselves?
But also whether someone is in administration at MoH or on study leave, honestly why claim this on call allowance? Even the name is clear “ON CALL ALLOWANCE”
If you want this money while not on call, kindly change its name PLEASE!
Manila
December 20, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Oh my,
it is unbelievable how people respond to their own doctor’s plight. No wonder we lost badly after the infamous strike of 2000.
Dude, clearly not many even think you do any work in this our Zambia, they think clinical officers and nurses do more without realizing the difference. I suggest you go somewhere else; where your credentials are respected and your rewards match up to the respect. Just go !
MJ
December 20, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Manila.
We are not in anyway undermining the Doctors’ efforts. All we are saying is, in as much as the doctors want better conditions so may it be with other health caders, while mainataining the difference.
On call allowance is an allowance that is paid to a doctor who is called to see the patient after working hours.
How then do you sees a patient in Zambia at say 21:00hrs and at the same time you are in your study room in UK or wherever? Maybe if we introduce telemedicine someone can be contacted from as far as the netherlands.
thinker
December 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm
@uncircumcised william-it seems your mind appears to be uncircumcised as well-iweh how can u compare a clinical officer or nurse to a MEDICAL DOCTOR!!!hahahahaha.buti kwena.your ignorance is amazing.the rest of you chaps get your facts right
1.doctors are HIGLY trained individuals-you cant train an MO overnight my friends..it just takes 3 years to train a nurse or CO..and their training is much lighter and basic
2.incase you think dr’s are suffering my friends dont be fooled-we are getting paid and getting paid well.we are expecting another increment incase you dont know.pabwato
3.on call is an entitlement for all dr’s-not just because you do on calls.the name is a misnomer
bana somebody
December 20, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Lots of mixed views, everyone attacking each other, some people being bitter… Well the author was merely representing his people, if other wings have similar cries, i beleive no one is stopping them from presenting them. No where in his letter or “article” did he undermine anyone so if the rest of the people have complaints and what ever, they should just express them. Doctors are trained to respect every other professional they work with, and they do. So really whats wrong with fighting for better conditions of service. And yes noble profession it is, and infact they deserve a round of applause and all forms of gratitude because I do beleive most of you have no idea of this sacrife that u keep referring to, but when its all said and done they too have to live and survive. And afterall truth be told, u all need healthcare and a doctor is right at the centre of that, whether u like it or not.
The ACE
December 20, 2011 at 6:03 pm
The idea that our Doctors perks should not surpass the PS’ is pure balony.The South African idea is brilliant.Let respect be given to whom it is due i.e. the Doctors, but let the Doctors return that respect as well. Pay all cadres well and there will be no problem.District Hospitals are now literally being run by Medical Licentiate Practitioners (3yrs CO,2yrs Adv Dip(equivalent to 5th,6th and 7th year of MD,and one yr Internship)Believe it or not these Ladies and gentlemen are saving so many lives together with Nurses and Clinical Officers but are not paid On-Call Allowance! And the Doctors, whose job they do are quiet! Lets fight together otherwise nothing will happen till Kingdom come!
Paramedic
December 20, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Please, all those so called doctors who are not involved in doing calls MUST not recieve on-call allowance. It is immoral and equal to plundering of tax payers money in broad day light. What on-call allowance when you’re just sitting in your office with your big abdomen, after that you sleep the whole night.
spartak
December 20, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Very interesting view points from all of you. I would rather we argue with facts because what the doctor is crying for is genuine if you read his article and got his explanation of what on-call allowance is meant to be. He isn’t saying other carders should not get increments no. All he is asking for is for the allowance to be given to all doctors. Have you ever wondered why housing allowance is not removed from one’s pay slip while abroad on study? And for those who claim that district hospitals are being run by clinical officers, get your facts correct before you air your ignorance because as I speak, for every district hospital in Zambia there is a medical doctor.
mpandamano
December 20, 2011 at 7:21 pm
I do believe those against the author are not doctors and for him are doctors,likewise,those speaking for nurses and paramedics are from these professions.
I would like to state that it’s a matter of principle. Every profesim has the right to state what they are worth! The author at no point undermine the other cadres in team but merely complaining about his dues! As a crude example; when you go for a job interview,they ask you what you are worth not what you think other people are worth. Doctors are health team leaders but in no circumstance involved in the appraisals of say, nurses or pharmacists. As matter of fact, recently I’m mwanawas’s reign, nurses went on strike doctors supported it and gave government 24hrs to respond to the nurse’s plea or they risked doctors joining in . Government did not respond and doctors reciprocated! That was a fight for the cause of the team members. While I do not want to give examples of the reverse I must state that if we have no idea of someone’s plight beter we research! Do people condeming this guy know that doctors are the only profesion in their ministry without representation on the negotisting table?
Let him complain! It is his right. If we want to equate an engineer to a technician or a lawyer to a legal secretary or pararegal then lets put all civil servant on the same salary scale! Dice people want a just society.
Dr Kay
December 20, 2011 at 8:28 pm
It is so ridiculous that other health workers are always comparing themselves to doctors, mere jealousy! Why should a nurse who goes to college for two years compare him/herslf with a doctor who has been to college for 7 years! It is only in Zambia where such ridiculous comparisons are tolerated, in other countries doctors are the most highly paid and nobody ignorantly argues.
On another note, it is criminal that doctors in management e.g at Headquarters, who never see patients should still get on-call allowance yet doctors studying abroad dont get on-call. It is also criminal because the document ‘Terms and Conditions of Service For the Public Service’, which we signed for upon employent, states on page 37 “An officer on paid study leave must be paid, in addition to his salary, any other supplementary allowance.” So a doctor studying abroad is entitled to all other allowances he/she used to get before the leave.
I hope the new government gives on-call back to doctors sacrifically studying abraod, otherwise the country will continue losing doctors and the shortage of specialist doctors will worsen and more lives will be lost.
Dr G
December 20, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Imwe fi doctor mu zambia! Work 4 yo money!! Stop gving pipo jst pandoz wit yo ****** atitudes of ‘am mo cleva than u’! Do u knw wat hard work z? Ask thoz kamalasha how lng n hard they work 4 a 100pin per month 4 th whole family!
nine kuno
December 20, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Shi mpundu you are so f*&^%$$n ignorant.Go back to school.
angry luanshya hustler
December 21, 2011 at 12:43 am
Pussy fack doctors,don’t even demand higher wages you pussies aint hygenic and knows no care and no thing motherfackers.my aunt passed on last week at luanshya thompson hospital.some of u aint even qualified you bad ass pussies!!!!!
klinks
December 21, 2011 at 1:16 am
1.please pepo lets not show our ignorance on this fora about things you dont understand,on call is not just about seeing patients after working hours,,,,so if you want to know about that,its better you ask us then will explain.
2. This concept that a doctor is trained for 7 years is so mis-informed,majority of doctors are trained for more than ten years,with their 2 degrees, a masters PHD plus members of royal……..,how do you compare them to a certificate,diploma or degree holder nurse,please…we appreciate nurses and other paramedics but lets not compare,,,,
3.please pepo o we asking for is for us to be respected accordingly,we are not comparing to anyone,,,have you ever heard a doctor saying,nurses are given uniform allowance so we want one,,,,Respect our profession just like we respect yours,if have a problem with us go to med school and come and change that,if you cant, leave us alone………………………………..
vya kulola vye
December 21, 2011 at 4:48 am
tutombeko says, “russian doctors are trained for 4 yrs.” no wonder there are pathetic!! Have ever encountered a russian trained doctor?even a 7th medical student is better than russian trained doctors. These doctors who have little contact wth patients. Lets appreciate ppl’s skills.
Back to the issue at hand we cannot condemn nor praise the author we do not know his/her conditions of service.
Shin'ganga
December 21, 2011 at 6:53 am
The author has clearly indicated why on-call is being paid to doctors. Mwanawasa actually increased it so that the net income is almost at same level with other SADC countries to stop brain drain to Namibia, Botswana and Angola. Does it mean that even doctors working at MOH should stop getting the allowance coz they never do calls, including the PS himself?
Its really surprising hw some bloggers think.one wud excuse them just by looking at their job credentials,the discussion is abt Dr' s oncall allowance and not the semi illiterate nurses and C Os or MLs.if these cadres need a similar allowance they shud ta
December 21, 2011 at 7:56 am
Its really surprising hw some bloggers think.one wud excuse them just by looking at their job credentials,the discussion is abt Dr’ s oncall allowance and not the semi illiterate nurses and C Os or MLs.if these cadres need a similar allowance they shud take it with MOH.comparing yourself with highly trained individuals won’t put money in yo pocket,hw will scrapping of on call for Drs add money or indeed value to you?this is simply PHD mentality.lastly u can’t expect Drs to fight for u as well,after all u put it yourself that according to yo pear brain,that Drs aren’t that much.MOH PIPO,shud not fight against each other,insteady they shud fight for Better condition of service for each group.for others,if u want to have oncall allowance,plenty of medical schools to apply to,not these nursing “tuntembas” u call schs
Dr Kay
December 21, 2011 at 10:09 am
Klinks that’s a very good response! Thank you. Yes lets us stop ignorant comparisons and lets not stray from the article, its about on-call for doctors studying abroad. Its not about which other cadres(non-doctors) want it.
Dr Kay
December 21, 2011 at 10:18 am
In summary ALL doctors should get on-call allowance including those in management and as this arricle is pointing out, even those STUDYING ABROAD, who are not inferior to those studying within the country.
Dr house
December 22, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Ok educated society of Zambia take it easy u r far from mandela,i think give pabwato a break and work and clean ur homes u cheating husbands and wives and remember we not here to stay only the mighty of all GOd can speak. Now our beloved government employees are Russians and great surgeons if u know where UTH z. And its 7years for ur own new education of a minute and try that for 7years not dealing with cars ,electricity and whatever but a human life,each death z recorded in heaven so stop winning as lil Wayne said…leave the oncall for all drs in and out,coz once they leave where does it go?is there any organisation benefiting or your excellency is this the the corruption u fighting?
Leon chikumba
December 24, 2011 at 10:05 am
Am a nurse and I understand that Drs r highly trained and skilled proffessionals,question is;can a Dr on his own handle a thousand patients that come in our clinics and hospitals without needing assistance from anyone,in OTs;can a Dr perform an operation without needing an anethaetist,scrub nurse,assistant and circulating nurse?Anyways your undermining gives us more courage to further our education,I will be going to unza nxt year,sku of humanities thanks to such sentiments and undermining of this career(nurse)..All the best our Drs as u save pipos lives
Pharmacist
December 25, 2011 at 10:17 pm
You doctors make me laugh. I hear of lot of mistakes you make which lead to patient deaths i.e. In management meetings. You dont know it all u ignorant fools. Yes get ur on call allowances u fought for it.you idiots are ruining MOH. Who tells u studying for 7yrs makes u special. Besides u do nothing in ur 6th yr. Pharmacists study for 5 years but are we crying to be getting more money because of that. U need to improve and change ur attitudes, money is not everything.
SIMAWE
January 6, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Surely the earth is not fair the way it distribute resouces. Zambia is not an exceptional.In the first place Zambian Doctors are very selfish cadres, and the PMOs,Doctors doing administrative work at the central level are actually stealing govt resouces in the name on call allowances.The truth is which call are they doing? Even those studying which call are they doing?So my brother stop making noise unnecessarly,be content with what you ve because the are other cadres who are sacrificing more than you do but without any on call allowance. Cadres like MLs,COs,Lab scientists,Nurses etc.I STRONGLY ASK THE WORKING GOVT OF MICHAEL SATA TO LOOK INTO THE PLIGHT OF OTHER CADRES AS WELL.I rest my case.
BERNARD
January 6, 2012 at 4:21 pm
I love the sentiments of Simawe.
BERNARD
January 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm
I love the sentiments of simawe.Its true the demands of the doc.are not sensible.Look at health workers in hard to reach areas where the workers are working day and night and not one is recognising their hard work.
BERNARD
January 17, 2012 at 9:35 am
let the govt look look into the plight of all zambian health workers.
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humble
April 19, 2012 at 8:23 pm
please people everyone is important in their own ways.The body cant function without the smallest part of the body like the nose.lets respect each other s proffession.one thing ive learnt,zambians ukuboster kwalitwipaya,in developed countries people work together so well with respect,drs ,nurses will even share knowlegde when taking care of patients,conducive environment indeed,ala efyo lesa alepalila nabashasabilila so that you can see that te lesa wa ka patulula.