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CATHOLIC Bishops Tells Off SATA “We Will NOT Be Used As An EXC– USE To Allow Abuse Of Power By SATA”
Archbishop Mpundu
THE Catholic Bishops have said that while they recognised that they had a Catholic President at State House, they will not be used as an excuse to allow abuse of power which has already resulted in appointments that are regionalised.
President Sata who is a Catholic earlier promised to govern the country by Catholic doctrines.
Launching their first heavily worded pastoral letter for 2012, on the several serious short- comings of the Patriotic Front Government, the Zambia Episcopal Conference (ZEC) fronted by some of its bishops stated that the Church’s watchdog role will not be compromised.
”As ZEC, we acknowledge that for the first time in the history of the nation, we have a Catholic President. The fact that there is a Catholic President will not in any way influence how we interact with the Zambian government. We will continue to be guided by the gospel and the social teaching of the Church.
It is our view that appointments to the civil service and diplomatic postings should be transparent, devoid of political patronage, nepotism and regionalism. We urge the Republican President to be more inclusive when making ministerial and other appointments to public office,” stated the letter in part.
The Catholic Bishops said calls to lift the immunity of immediate past President Rupiah Banda were premature without thorough investigations and called the PF anti-graft fight as an act of witch-hunting revenge.
They clergy further stated that there was lack of legal framework to govern the current Constitution-making process.
“Zambia has already spent enormous amounts of money on the Constitution-making process and the public is concerned about the expenditure.”
The Bishops, while commending the anti-graft fight, cautioned government to operate within the confines of the rule of law.
Whilst praising government’s exercise of cutting down on ministries, the Church was concerned about policies that overstretched public resources such as new additional diplomatic missions abroad and creation of new districts.
The Bishops who were fronted by ZEC president Ignatius Chama, Archbishop Telesphore Mpundu, Mongu ‘s Evans Chinyemba and Ignatius Mwebe.
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CASSAVA REPUBLIC
February 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Padre, just call a spade a spade, tell the catholic president that his appointments are tribal. Period
UPND'S Hakainde@ngombe
February 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Of course this not true
mwela
February 1, 2012 at 2:45 pm
north western has zero represatation. too many pipo in foreign missions, but no results cant even market the nation, just phone bills and huge salary bills
mwela
February 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm
north western has zero represatation. too many pipo in foreign missions, and no results, cant even market the nation, just phone bills and huge salary bills when the tax payer is wallowing in poverty. send equal numbers of pipo from all provinces to foreign missions
True bantustans:
February 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Well spoken the clagy,we need more of this guidance especialy that mr sata claim to be the only catholic,he is denting the name of the church where is ten comandments now? why cant you just suspend him or even expell him from the church? so that he can rejoine after we retire him in 2016.Thank u
Air Mukwai_
February 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm
ba tumfweko, isn’t any phrase you can use apart from “tell off?”. you have been using this almost quotidian.
alien
February 1, 2012 at 2:52 pm
tell him or else he will bring the name of our honourable church to disrepute….
pk
February 1, 2012 at 2:56 pm
he is listening to your complaints.
Doc
February 1, 2012 at 2:56 pm
This is what Zambians wanted.u wanted nepotism to be clearly defined and thats exactly what SATA is doing right now.sivinthu.Zambia can not unite with such characters.i this will hurt PF thugs.
SHAKA OZ
February 1, 2012 at 2:59 pm
This what we said in the first place that this so called Members of the technical committee drafting the new Zambian constitution are VULTURES!
What is the difference between the current technical committee Member Kabaanda (Ghost) and ZCTU Hikaumba of the NCC? They are all VULTURES devouring our money from poor Zambians who need this money for poverty alleviation! What a shame!
Committee Chairperson Justice Annel Silungwe should be ashamed of himself for chewing our money which can be better spent on POVERTY ALLEVIATION!
Sata should not be HYPOCRITICAL, he stops permanent secretaries from having a — USEFUL workshop 4 them 2 better understand govt protocols but allows Silungwe & his so called This what we said in the first place that this so called Members of the technical committee draftThis what we said in the first place that this so called Members of the technical committee drafting the new Zambian constitution are VULTURES!
Sata should not be HYPOCRITICAL, he stops permanent secretaries from having a — USEFUL workshop 4 them 2 better understand govt protocols and allows Silungwe & his so called Technical Committees which are gobbling a lot of OUR public money!
Sata is also a VULTURE!
Zally
February 1, 2012 at 3:01 pm
@alien how can the catholic church be honorable, that satanic church with immoral priests raping alter boys. Keep quite if you do not have anything to say, Shaa!
Impwitikiti
February 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Zally you’re a blood thirsty demon, how adre do call my church a satanic church?Wiso talepopa bwino pakukufyala. Fuckk ya stupidd demon.
Phill
February 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Iwe Bantustan think b4 u write idiot. PF will rule till your bones rote mwana we are here for 40 – 50 yrs.
Pamato
February 1, 2012 at 3:26 pm
This is very true, I was supporting the PF but what Sata is doing is exactly what he condemned Levy. Is he saying only Northern and Luapula have better brains to balance? There are no brains in WP,SP,EP,CP,CBP,NWP? Shame ba president, I am rethinking and I should look out on the young parties around to support in 2016. You are been tribal with your appointments. How many Bembas are holding senior positions and are you saying Bembas are more than other tribes? can they be more than Tongas, Ngonis? Check yourself or you will go off!
KK
February 1, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Just like the appointment of a “Sampa” to be Minister of the Tongas…aint there enough people in Southern province who can hold such a position??? Whose interest is Sampa advancing in Southern province??
Mwandini
February 1, 2012 at 3:44 pm
calls for lifting immunity of “President Rupiah Banda were premature without thorough investigations and called the PF anti-graft fight as an act of witch-hunting revenge.” This is not what the Bishops said – journalists please report accurately. Do not begin setting up the bishops against the president. He will read the letter and as a listening president he will take the advice where it is due.
Greg Kadimba
February 1, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Leave the president alone,there is nothing regional about his appointments,this has been fabricated by demented people who do not know what they are talking about.Long live Sata!
neto
February 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Bakatolika, see what you are putting our beloved country through. You supported wrongly this time.
alicemweetwa
February 1, 2012 at 4:26 pm
plz pipo his trying his best we ar just to many with our prayers ad help he do better thing rember his not God coz with God every thing is posible .
eya ee
February 1, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Thats the mother church talking now, so please ba Sata hearken to this prophetic voice. Pf should not lose focuss, go back to the drawing bod again bane and make sure u fulfil on yo campaign promises with time. In any case, so far so good guys. We are behind you.
MUNYELO PWETE!
February 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm
@ ZALLY!
WABA IFIMASO PAMATAKO!
Bemba boy
February 1, 2012 at 6:38 pm
…..lets see… what will sata say or do to silence these bishops….watch this space and see how an uneducated person thinks…
MELESU
February 1, 2012 at 6:41 pm
So are you still accusing the Cahholic Church of supporting Sata as you did towards the elections. I hope now the Zambians andd world over haver realised that, the Catholic Church is just fighting for humanity and justice…you can see that they still challenge Sata as they did to Rupia! The Catholic Church does not open her mouse anyhow!…
ChaCha
February 1, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Chi Zally, Mutoko wanoko. Waba Ifi Matole mu menso.
Evangelist
February 1, 2012 at 7:20 pm
“And if your brother sins, go and reprove him in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother.
“But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED.
“And if he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax gatherer. Matthew 18:15-17.
The text above is talking about correcting an erring brother. Without going so much into details I would like to advise the Catholic church to be seeking audience with the President on national issues they feel he is not doing well before making their pastoral letter public. That’s Biblical leadership and a Biblical way of correcting and admonishing one another.
Moreover, the Church has a role to advise and pray for national leaders.
So, my question to the Catholic fathers is, did they privately before making their pastoral public engage the President on the pertinent issues contained there in? If so, what was the President’s response? Did he listen to them or not? If they did not engage him, are they following Biblical church leadership on addressing and correcting erring brothers?
Lets not just be quick to condemn and judge. Let’s first understand why people do the things they do, then we will be better placed to advise, admonish, rebuke and correct.
Woviziba
February 1, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Imwe ba Katokolika mwayambo chita magic on my comments. Where have they dissappeared to?
Evangelist
February 1, 2012 at 7:25 pm
“And if your brother sins, go and reprove him in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother.
“But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED.
“And if he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax gatherer. Matthew 18:15-17.
The text above is talking about correcting an erring brother. Without going so much into details I would like to advise the Catholic church to be seeking audience with the President on national issues they feel he is not doing well before making their pastoral letter public. That’s Biblical leadership and a Biblical way of correcting and admonishing one another.
Moreover, the Church has a role to advise and pray for national leaders.
So, my question to the Catholic fathers is, did they privately before making their pastoral letter public engage the President on the pertinent issues contained there in? If so, what was the President’s response? Did he listen to them or not? If they did not engage him, are they following Biblical church leadership on addressing and correcting erring brothers?
Lets not just be quick to condemn and judge. Let’s first understand why people do the things they do, then we will be better placed to advise, admonish, rebuke and correct.
Woviziba
February 1, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Ok I will send them to a friend to post them since you are still praying for my comments not to appear
KAPOPOMYA
February 1, 2012 at 8:17 pm
WE RESPECT THE VIEWS OF PROTESITENTS.JESUS WAS NEVER BIAS
Spectator
February 1, 2012 at 8:59 pm
@Zally, You must be demonically opressed and u really need prayers.How do you pass on such comments?ahhhhhh………
Woviziba
February 1, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Tumfweko is actually a Catholic publication. They are censoring every truth I write about the Catholics. The fact that Catholics were oppressors when they ruled the world is being shielded excessively by Tumfweko
Woviziba
February 1, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Galileo was killed by the Catholics
Woviziba
February 1, 2012 at 10:42 pm
For speaking the truth when the Catholics were preaching falseties
Woviziba
February 1, 2012 at 10:43 pm
Lets not be hypocrites
KMG
February 1, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Am not catholic but Zally waba imputi mukanwa. Bushe banoko bakunyele fye nangu shani? Learn to respect other churches shaa!
not catholic!
February 2, 2012 at 3:40 pm
note this, is Zally is wrong! President Sata who is a Catholic earlier promised to govern the country by Catholic doctrines!! y mixing politics wth church doctrines?
KIBWELA KASONGO
February 3, 2012 at 5:27 am
Ala ‘imputi iisula taibula kubwekeshapo, kabili munshebwa aile namafi pabapongoshi’. ” Old habits die hard, and He who takes no advice visited his in-laws with feaces in his pants”. We all know that and Chanda Chimba forewarned us. As for the people of North Western, the president has a History of Hating them for a reason we can not understand. However, We appreciate that the Catholic Church has been quick to realize this and we hope they convince their man.
This is rather sensitve and the president must be made to understand that he is irritating the Zambian people, and so fast for that matter. Divide and rule? No sir it will not work and Zambians are too strongly bonded to be divided. Change or face the consequencies…Zambians are bitter after all the support they rendered to PF.
NC
February 10, 2012 at 5:40 pm
That is my church. Watch dog role uncompromised
Kabs int'nl
March 20, 2012 at 8:51 am
Its my prayer that the president will adhere to the advise from the men of God.
mbuya
June 22, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Looks too late now. But, the say, time is the best teacher.
MOJO
December 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Simple economics:More income+Less Expenditure = Positive gains.Ba Sata is making a lot of unbudgeted pronouncements without creating more income generating ventures this will lead to break down in the economy.