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‘SATA, Catholic Bishops State Your Positions On HOMOSEXUALS Unlike Remaining MUTE’
State your Position ! Sata
It is also surprising to note that the ever outspoken Catholic Bishops have remained mute over this issue and many Zambians wonder whether they are in ‘indirect’ support of this ambiguous state.
One wonders where and how the same people advocating for gay rights were born. In case they didn’t know, they were born because a man and woman married.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon was here in Zambia and at no time did we see him with a male partner, He came with his wife. Many Zambians wonder why Ban Ki Moon is advocating for gay rights and yet where he comes from in his country there is no such nuisance.
I conquer with what comrade Mugabe said about the west and there gay rights and i quote “Nature is nature. It has created male and female,” Mugabe told thousands of supporters at his 88th birthday celebration at a stadium in the eastern border town of Mutare.
“You David Cameron, are you suggesting that you don’t know that or is it some kind of insanity or part of the culture of Europeans.
“In their newspapers, that’s one of my sins. That I called (gays) worse than pigs and dogs because pigs know there are males and females. It’s even in the Bible that you create through the system of marrying.
“That’s how we were born, so we reject that outright and say to hell with you. I won’t even call him a dog because my own dog will complain and say, but what have I done.”
“Please, young men and women, you don’t have the freedom for men to marry men and women to marry women. You have the freedom for men to marry women. That’s God’s freedom. That’s what created you and me.”It seems Mugabe speaks sense on this one and one wonders why our very own outspoken Sata has decided to remain mute.
Mugabe has for decades ranted against homosexuality.
Today comrade Mugabe seems to be the only African leader who seem to have stood his ground and a lot of us well meaning Zambians and others will surely embrace him. Yes Mugabe might be stubborn but his stubbornness on gay rights is something worth admiring unlike our leaders who are mute!.
As much as Zambians agree that sexual orientation is not a choice but a complex interplay of both biological and environmental factors, homosexuality is both unnatural and dysfunctional. It is a good example of an abnormal variation in human sexuality. Legalizing homosexuality is a sign of a not being well-meaning and not wanting to uphold that which we hold sacred.
The Zambian people demand to know your position as government, the Zambian people demand to know your position as Catholic Bishops.
The PF government and Catholic Bishops should state their position now. Their quietness is an indication that all is well with them !
Edwin Zimba
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Aldrin
February 27, 2012 at 6:21 pm
It doesn’t sound like a good idea, this is supossed to be a straight forward issue. Lets allnred 1corinthians 6:9 it says… ”t! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom.”
LELONILELO
February 27, 2012 at 6:26 pm
we already know these are all muzungu anikonde fellows-They eat and dine with the gay fellows.which church is embroiled with child abuse cases and cases of sodomizing minors and adults Yes:Answer:The Catholic church.The encourage the rot and decay of any morally correct culture with their brainwash ideologies.GOD GRANT US PROTECTION FROM THE DEVIL AND HIS ADVOCATES.
Aldrin
February 27, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Most leaders know its wrong but just want to use the strategy to win positions the majority in their area needs the the bullsheet… which is useless, tearing the world apart.
Child of the Sky
February 27, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Christian nation or not, we are entitles to the views of stakeholders. PF and Its GOVT major stakeholders, and so is the Catholic Church and others. So it’s just fair and prudent that they state their positions, instead of hiding in some literature. fact that a rule is written down doe not mean it is followed. Speak, or we will assume you support the UN position.
johnathan mugabe
February 27, 2012 at 7:31 pm
stay in africa and die of your AIDS epidemic.
DORA SILIYA
February 27, 2012 at 7:38 pm
NALIMYEBELE TAMUMFWA! Mwalelanda ati Dora soft BUMS alesabailafye.
Jeremy good luck mugabe
February 27, 2012 at 8:20 pm
We Africans are after all, beasts without brains at our core. why should we recognize anything that dares to call us human?
bob lover but no homo
February 27, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Silence is considered tacit approval the cowards wont speak they have their tails sheltered btwn their legs they cant help it that is how they are mad(e) puppets of western demoncrazy.away with the heathen practice and its adherents the puppeteers the hypocrites
Jeremy good luck mugabe
February 27, 2012 at 8:29 pm
also, edwin zimba is my gay lover. that’s why he calls me ‘comrade mugabe’.
vubwi
February 27, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Catholic church does not fear anything inhuman,jst kno this..whether yu consider catholics to be yo enemies or whatever yu may consider it
,catholic doctrines has..from ancient tyms been against homosexuality..nd i can assure yu there ar no 2ways about it.
Jeremy good luck mugabe
February 27, 2012 at 8:44 pm
vubwi – doctrine may be against, but the fathers in the church sure aren’t. they love boys.
Twizzy tazzy
February 27, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Are u all gayz’lol?why ar u concernd if ur ar nt a gay..?.ar u scared of bin fuckd 4rm ur rotten asses…infact for the first time,i need one gay to ****.?.if u reply to this comment”then u ar a gay…!let de government implement gay rights’i think, it wil reduce aids in zambia…!
Jeremy good luck mugabe
February 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm
ah most of the AIDS in zambia is spread by men who have sex with infants thinking that virginity is a cure for their AIDS. that’s the real cause of the spread.
Ganizani Kulibe
February 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm
” ZAMBIA IS A CHRISTIAN NATION ” and
“ZAMBIA SHALL BE RULED BY THE TEN (10) COMMANDMENTS”
TRUE OR FALSE ?
Jeremy good luck mugabe
February 27, 2012 at 9:36 pm
your christianity is nothing but nonsense that the white man spread and you ignorant heathens swallowed.
Jeremy good luck mugabe
February 27, 2012 at 9:50 pm
sorry, i meant to add
“TRUE OR FALSE?”
msanzala
February 27, 2012 at 10:26 pm
what do u want him to say, please leave him alone he has more important things to do than commenting on things that very few pipo understand
jay
February 27, 2012 at 10:29 pm
zaulilika lelo
WHY?
February 27, 2012 at 10:34 pm
What is happening? Now they have banned airing of people’s view on ZVBC TV and Radio, I thought we had freedom of expression in this country. What does this mean? Where is democracy? Where is integrity?
How did Mr Ban Ki Moon choose to come to Zambia? Has Mr Obama also been invited to come and reinforce the message of homosexuality too. What about abortion rights.
It is obvious our leaders have been working on this agenda for a long time. This is deception at its best.
May God arise on behalf of Zambia and may the Zambians arise with God.
Jeremy good luck mugabe
February 27, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Mungu haitambui Waafrika, tu watu weupe. wewe wote alichagua upande wa makosa.
True intellectual
February 28, 2012 at 4:05 am
Let homosexuality and lesbianism and abortion remain in the western culture.
Let it not corrupt Zambian culture.
It is a shame that the so called leaders are mute on this issue.
If the same leaders made a stance then this debate would be finished and halted.
Ex……south Africa…….Uganda.
Usiya
February 28, 2012 at 5:43 am
Leave the Catholic Bishops alone, why draw them into this is it because the President happens to be Catholic? Besides we should love the faggots as our brothers and sisters let us detest their unholy acts instead of hating the gays themselves.
ZED
February 28, 2012 at 6:26 am
Okay lets set some data in order here. Being Homosexual and practicing homosexuality are two different things, usually the latter are the ones that seek rights, yes so that they can practice. I find it very interesting to recall that SATA was accused of supporting homosexuality(practice) at the peak of the presidential campaign. SATA is now mute about the issue, also it is common knowledge that SATA invited The Chief of UN, the question remains why? could it be that the government is responsible for the visit and consequently its purposed outcome?
Iris kaingu
February 28, 2012 at 6:44 am
I think it is okay ti legalise homo we are tired of our pussys
afcon phiri
February 28, 2012 at 9:11 am
Ihave come to learn that a lot of people are very jelous of the Catholic church and their churches suffer from inferiority complex. if you cannot beat them join them.
Shameless
February 28, 2012 at 9:52 am
You are fool to have asked Sata and The Catholics to comment on homosexuality. Who doesn’t know that Sata is a staunch Catholic? And who doesn’t know the Catholic’s position concerning human rights (homosexual rights inclusive)? In case you need to be reminded, they support it and they would rather at this time remain publicly mute and use their mouth piece the UN to champion their cause. Continue dreaming if you think that you can defeat the Catholic, USA, UN, BRITAIN and GRZ on their resolve to worship the devil through homosexual rights. Homosexuality is a sin just like any other sin such as beastuality, incest, insulting, idol worship, prostitution, adultery, fornication, hatred, coveteousnes and drunkeness just to mention but a few. Like all these immoralities, homosexuality can only be defeated at individual levels.
ban ki moon
February 28, 2012 at 10:01 am
Homo is not gud at all,i was sent to speak about it
Copara
February 28, 2012 at 10:05 am
We call our self a Christian nation. but Some one become mute on this kind issue. Let me say Mugabe has proved him self is man of action.
TRUE WEATH
February 28, 2012 at 10:27 am
ITS NOT A TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION. LETS SHOW THE WORLD THAT WE GOVERNED BY GODS PRINCIPLES> PERIOD
MJ Linyungandambo
February 28, 2012 at 10:45 am
its quite cardinal that the president categorically states our national stance on this failure to which the WEST will surely achieve what they want
demba ba
February 28, 2012 at 10:51 am
this is dissapointing…i now believe that its not easy being brave like the Mugabes!!!!!!!!!
MANU4LIFE
February 28, 2012 at 12:26 pm
If any of you guys have bibles read ROMANS CHAPTER 1 VS 18 TO 32.
For your Evaluation
February 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm
United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon says he knows that the Government of Zambia has formed a principled position in promoting and respecting the human rights of everybody, regardless of age, religion or sexual orientation, in line with the fundamental principles of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights to which Zambia is a party.Ban Ki-Moon made this revelation when he met president Michael Sata at State House on Sunday. According to press statement issued by Eimear McDermott of the UN Communications Group, Ban Ki- Moon added that human beings are born with equal rights and that he has been urging the world leaders of many countries, in particular those where people have been discriminated against, and even punished and criminalized, based on their sexual orientation, to form and uphold principled positions that protect the rights of all.Following his official visit to State House, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon made a statement to the press emphasizing that he was happy with the discussions and extremely impressed by the progress being made in Zambia in promoting democratic governance. He also commended Zambia’s progress towards achieving the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs), noting that the discussions with President Sata had touched on how the United Nations can continue to work together with the Government of the Republic of Zambia in realising the MDGs.
The Secretary-General added that he had invited President Sata to the Rio+20 Summit in June. The Summit will provide an important opportunity for world leaders to discuss sustainable development, climate change, water scarcity, food crisis, energy shortages, gender empowerment, and global health issues.The Zambia government has not yet responded to the statement by the UN on the rights of gays.
During the run up to the elections that brought the PF to power, the issue of gay rights became a hot issue. Famous journalists Chanda Chimba repeatedly explained that if the PF won, they would legalise homosexuality in Zambia because they have been sponsored to do so.Chimba was demonised and even sued.When British Prime Minister David Cameron said in November 2011 that British international aid will be tied to respect for gay rights, Zambia’s foreign Affairs minister Given Lubinda reacted sharply and told off Cameron.
But it was the same Given Lubinda who was escorting Ban Ki-Moon when he was promoting gay rights in Zambia.Lubinda has also not said anything probably because he knows his cabinet has since resolved to support rights of the game community.
nevermind
February 28, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Besides most Zambian men I know tell me they enjoy anal sex with their girlfriends and wives…so what’s the difference between a she ass and a he ass??
drogba
February 28, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Thats why i missed that penalt,i was confused,Ban ki moon offered me a man to **** his ass,how can I do that imwe bantu?
Milar BJ
February 28, 2012 at 3:23 pm
People have a basic, ethical intuition that certain behaviors are wrong because they are unnatural. We perceive intuitively that the natural sex partner of a human is another human, not an animal.
The same reasoning applies to the case of homosexual behavior. The natural sex partner for a man is a woman, and the natural sex partner for a woman is a man. Thus, people have the corresponding intuition concerning homosexuality that they do about bestiality—that it is wrong because it is unnatural.
Natural law reasoning is the basis for almost all standard moral intuitions. For example, it is the dignity and value that each human being naturally possesses that makes the needless destruction of human life or infliction of physical and emotional pain immoral. This gives rise to a host of specific moral principles, such as the unacceptability of murder, kidnapping, mutilation, physical and emotional abuse, and so forth.
demba ba
February 28, 2012 at 3:50 pm
ki moon has failed inchito…let him just go back and tell his children how to gay instead of wasting his time coming to us and confuse with such dirty things…….wooooooo twakukanina chi Ki moon!!!!
tomas
February 28, 2012 at 4:16 pm
It is funny, the campaign managers, the catholics with their father Bwalya, were are they.. they knew about this a long time, that it is coming..they are all quite..the people in the background the jesuit priest must be happy now..people wake up
Ngooyu AntiChrist Aawa
February 28, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Never mind. Did you do a survey of that?
DR. C CHANDA
February 28, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Africans are poor, they vote for anyone who promises ndalama, please global people do not take advantage of us
Shulamalindi
February 28, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I miss Levy
Alex Kampamba
February 28, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Levy, a man with Zambia at heart
umu rebel
February 29, 2012 at 1:55 am
@janet c ulimbwafye if yo father married a fellow man wud u even have existed? muletontonkanya waba icinyo
Zambia is a christian nation
February 29, 2012 at 5:12 am
Press Statement
28th February, 2012
On behalf of the United Party for National Development (UPND), I demand that Mr. Michael Chilufya Sata gives the nation his and that of his PF party position on gay rights as advocated for by Ban Ki Moon – Secretary General of the United Nations.
The nation must not forget that Mr. Michael Chilufya Sata, not long ago said that, ‘there are laws in Zambia that recognise gay rights….’. It should also be borne in mind, that Mr. Michael Chilufya Sata has been a flip flopping President. He has changed positions on many national issues such as windfall tax, street vending, Barotseland Agreement just to mention a few.
It is Mr. Sata’s past statements, his flip flopping habit and his deafening silence on Ban Ki Moon’s statement that is worrying. We demand that Mr. Michael Chilufya Sata as the head of Government gives the nation his position on this matter.
The UPND believes that as an African and Christian nation, Zambia has no place for gay rights. The scriptures and our culture which are a guiding light in this country are clear on this matter. Further, our existing laws do not allow for this practice. It must also be remembered that as Africans, our culture which is protector of our morals does not permit this practice. UPND believes that for civility and national stability to continue in this nation gay rights must remain outlawed.
Hakainde Hichilema
President
Zambia is a christian nation
February 29, 2012 at 5:12 am
God bless you Mr HH and your family and UPND for your statement it is much needed in trying time for Zambia. Surrender yourself, your family and UPND and the lord will lift you up, he will fight for you and vindicate you and your party from every mudslinging that has been thrown at you. We need righteous and Godly leaders and political parties. Zambians are still waiting for the other Opposition parties and upright NGO’s to release their statements, silence will not solve anything.God bless Zambia, Zambian’s and righteousness political parties and leaders.
neil
February 29, 2012 at 5:13 am
Nevers Mumba is a liar and a mon ey lau nd er ing ma chine
Him and the deputy Mr Nzo-ya are stealing tax payers money. They also have a off ice slut , Carolina Rodriguez who is also abusing the money. The Ottawa Zambian mission are thieves
For your Evaluation
February 29, 2012 at 5:13 am
British High Commissioner James Thornton says the free choice of sexuality should be regarded as human rights.
And Mr Thornton says such rights needs to be respected by African countries including Zambia.
He says it is sad that in some African countries homosexuals and lesbians are not allowed to express their sexual rights.
He was answering questions from journalists soon after calling on Southern Province deputy permanent secretary Alfred Chiinda at his office in Livingstone.
But Mr Chiinda just said the PF government has put infrastructure development at the centre stage of the country’s national agenda.HZ
positive
February 29, 2012 at 7:50 am
Ba Sata and Catholics rehearsed long time ago and agreed with UN to legalize gay rights and remove declaration of zambia as a christian nation from new constitution. That is why Sata deliberately could not include evangelicals on committe of experts. The pope supports gay rights so what do you expect of his priests? Sata has sold the nation to homosexual Westerners and the UN that is why he is dumbfounded since ban Ki Moon has already implicated him as an accomplice to bringing gay rights.general membership of the Catholic church are inocent but their leaders support gay rights.
benji
February 29, 2012 at 7:53 am
Zambia is a christian nation that is why they want to test our Christianity.woooooo Ba UN
ABENA ZAMBIA
February 29, 2012 at 8:10 am
Leave Mr President alone,he has already addressed that gay issue already when he said Zambia shall be ruled on 10 Commandments.Zambia shall be a No go area for gays.All we need to do is wait and see the implementation of the 10 commandment