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‘Don’t Blame Roger Chongwe On The BRE Recommendations’
Former Anti Voter Apathy Project (AVAP) Executive Director Bonnie Tembo says Dr. Rodger Chongwe should not be blamed for his commission’s recommendations to the Zambian government on the Mongu riots because he merely adhered to people’s wishes.
Speaking to Qfm exclusively, Mr. Tembo said it is not right to accuse Dr. Chongwe of applying his personal emotions in coming up with a report adding that his recommendations are a reflection of what the people of Barotseland want.
Mr. Tembo has since appealed to government to consider subjecting the matter to a national referendum so that Zambians can decide whether to have the Barotseland agreement of 1964 restored or not.
He has further implored government to avail the Rodger Chongwe commission of inquiry report to the public so that people can debate the matter from an informed point of view.
The Rodger Chongwe commission of inquiry has recommended for the restoration of Barotseland agreement of 1964,but President Michael Sata has categorically stated that he is reluctant to endorse the recommendations.
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pabwato
March 2, 2012 at 9:07 am
“Barotseland agreement of 1964 restored or not” Have you chaps even read the the BRE or you just keep barking. Just like homosexuality this issue is a non-starter…..period
Tonga Bull
March 2, 2012 at 9:28 am
PF if you do not want to accept the recommendations then bring back all the money you wasted on the commision of inquiry, we do not want leaders who have no direction.
GUN
March 2, 2012 at 9:41 am
Mr sata you wanted to know more now you do,ask why kk is not saying anything.There is a very powerful witness on this issue which is the British govt which was the colonial master to N.Rhodesia remember Barotseland has never been colonised.
Exhaust Blown Diffuser
March 2, 2012 at 9:43 am
Commission of inquiry even for riots?? Whats the job for the police and CID not to mention ba shushushu??
Rodger Chongwe commission of inquiry recommended for the restoration of Barotseland agreement, what was he and his team thinking??? We are sticking with one Zambia one nation
Lunda Headman
March 2, 2012 at 10:13 am
It leaves much to be desired by all well meaning Zambians. The questions one would ask is why did Mr Sata and his pf govt constitute the commission of Inquiry into the BRE when they knew they would be reluctant to endorse the recommendations? What happens then to the mega resources the pf govt is wasting on the so called commissions of Inquiry? Does this not amount to yet another case of abuse of authority and resources by the pf govt?
bbbb
March 2, 2012 at 10:41 am
THE INQUIRY WAS NOT COMMISSIONED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BRE, BUT THE MONGU RIOTS. THEREFORE, TALKING ABOUT THE BRE WAS CLEARLY OUTSIDE THE SCOOP OF THE INQUIRY…. MOST OF YOU THAT HAVE ACTUALLY READ THE BRE WILL CONCUR WITH ME THAT THAT AGREEMENT WAS A PERMANENT AGREEMENT AFTER FULL CONSULTATION OF THE LITUNGA THEN, AND THE BAROTSE COUNCIL. IF YOU THINK EASTERN PROVINCE IS THE POORET PROVINCE, VISIT LUAPULA… IN NATURAL RESOURCES YES THERE IS AN ISSUE BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNMENT BUT GOD. BESIDES WHAT IS THERE TO RESTORE ABOUT THE BRE?
gerabo unit
March 2, 2012 at 10:48 am
why did Mr Sata lie during his compains and this definitely had an effect on the voting pattern in western province? what does this amount to ? we vote again?
The Zedian
March 2, 2012 at 10:50 am
PF is just useless. MMD offcourse without RB was better. The Barotse isnt all about demarcating land. You guys should read it and understand. Roger Chongwe isnt dull to recommend it. I suggest we read, understand and then comment. But why did Sata even promise when he knew what Barotse agreement is? he was in government before. I feel pity for the next PF presidential candidate coz izankalako ruff.
Lets read guys.
Snr.citizen
March 2, 2012 at 10:52 am
For the resources surely this is a waste, can our gvt please stop creating more commissions of Inquiries for the sake of saving our mega resources and
concentrate on developing the country and also solve the issue of civil servant’s salaries, 4% we read in the post paper this morning is a thorn in fresh.
Drugsquard
March 2, 2012 at 10:55 am
Lozis should first iron out things with the Nkoyas, otherwise they are fighting a loosing battle.The BA at the moment is HORSE SHIT, I repeat BULL SHIT……….
BR MST BE FREE
March 2, 2012 at 11:07 am
FACT:z pf govt wil kill more lozis zn mmd govt did.blv me u.after ukulufyanya waikala quiet iwe kaunda.say somethin b4 z worst kams.i hop ur ar nt insinuating sata 2 do wt u did.
Drugsquard
March 2, 2012 at 11:17 am
@BR MST BE FREE, u r useless, Lozis r just a bunch of fools who think that they can survive on their own. Apart from KUOMBOKA theres nothing else to write home about KWASILOZI.
ZEDIAN
March 2, 2012 at 11:18 am
why do Zambians take so long to despose off certain issues,i certainly have come to believe that most the Zambians are dull.
1.FAZ/DARIO ISSUE
2.GAY ISSUE
3.BAROTSE AGREEMENT
4.ZANACO SALE
5.LIATO AND 2BILLION
Believe me or not all the above issues will just die naturally coz pipo to make final decisions are dull.
Zambians talk too much,with no actions or decesions.
Katwishi
March 2, 2012 at 11:33 am
I totally agree with you Zedian. Zambian people we are very dull for we forget very easily.
Kabova
March 2, 2012 at 11:42 am
If Pf will not deliver the campaigning promises then that 20sep2011 was my last vote to cast. And I will join the witness not to vote.
GUN
March 2, 2012 at 11:44 am
Lozis are not fools! Bana imbwa imwe mwaba imichila.
ndikalombwana kachende
March 2, 2012 at 11:49 am
@ Pabwato wanisekesa mwee ha ha hahahahahahahaha….!
You MANYENGOs are you not happy to be called zambians ? What is wrong with one zambia one nation ? you want to divide this our peaceful country ? Now I can see why NYAMASOYA killed you,Mulibe nzelu .What do you have there ? if you divide,are you going to eat sand ? why can’t you talk about developing your province instead of wasting time on things which will never happen.is it tu gold na tu oil twamene tuli uko ndiye twamene munyamulilapo ma aerial ?mwanikwiisa maningi ine tate wanu.
The Zedian
March 2, 2012 at 12:08 pm
you’re right Zedian, whats wrong with our country ?
Mampala
March 2, 2012 at 12:12 pm
whether you like it or not you frustrated idiots, Barotse will be independent jst give it time.and its not yo damn business about what they wil eat, have you ever heard of someone eatimg sand? Learn to be in the right frame of mind before saying anything. I wonder why you are so bitter about the Barotse issue, are you being threatened if i may ask? leave the pipo of Barotse in peace. Binyukunyuku bebimaswemaswe bwe…fyola
Drugsquard
March 2, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@Mampala, u r an I.D.I.O.T. What do you have ku barotse, floods all over. Yes you have more water than you can use, so u will be drinking water for breakfast, lunch and supper. Grow up man/woman Barotse is nothing without the other provinces….
Ziman
March 2, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Hah BA64 is a non starter just like it failed in Namibia after it was ruthlessly crash, it shall surely fail even here in Zambia. Ma Lozi wake up this is 2012 not 17th century try to fight for equitable distribution of wealth period start send powerful MP not the like of current crop of MPs; who are full of themselves. Imbela ya ma Lozi mwali temwa sana such that even if you a granted independence coz of this you will fail to rule yo selves. Its also a fact that the Nyengos, Nkoyasm Mbundas are yo rivals U despise them as inferior to your tribe so how are U going to rule a state full of prejudiced agenda Eish tu le kalafye.
Lozi Bull
March 2, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@Drugsquard,
Who’s a fool,Between u,& Lozi’s?
Yo tongue is ful of insults,&
The Lozi’s are quiet,not making noise,or using abusive language like some of u.
All they want is to settle this issue without shading blood of innocent souls.
I wonder where u come from!
Language means a lot abt our background.
I wish u well
U need Deliverance.
Lozi Bull
March 2, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@Drugsquard,
U’re an African Brother,we’re one though we differ of what comes out of our mouth.
We’re all one,b’coz ;
We’re sons,& daughters of the soil.
There’4,when u’re wrong,or yo language is an acceptable,i’ve to tel u to adjust if possible,if u cn’t,it’s up to u.
May u’ve manners,
May be u’re waiting for yo relatives to sound drums for u.
Katonda street trader
March 2, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Hahahaha
Lozi bull Vs drugsquard
Drugsquard
March 2, 2012 at 1:32 pm
@Lozi Bull, your agon is that the BA64 was shot down just in front of you. From 1964 how do you expected it to be recognise today, what has changed, just swallow it and forget about it. Even your neighbours the Nkoyas are against it. Clean your house first before you extend your grievances to a simple DRUGSQUARD. Ask @Ziman for more info on your stupid doc called BA64. NON SENSE physiiiiity.
lozi 1
March 2, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Drugsquard if we re going 2 die let us be but just grant us our wish,and besides their is more than meets the eye,in western province we have only water and sand but what is under the sands u c,is something else get a surveyor/geologist to tell about our home before u die of ignorance
shax da vapour
March 2, 2012 at 1:56 pm
but vibalozi zoona.why ar u like ths idiots.u wil neva be indpend and thats what hurts u embeciles.whats wrng wth u being part of zambia,ar u teling us dat yo fathers who never advocated fo this idea ar stupid?what do u thnk u hav?do u thnk u ll feed on tha tails between yo legs,its oneZ oneN.staninaz
Seperation technique
March 2, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Drugsquard and lozi bull, One is for and the other against.Give two reason and two advantages why??
Drugsquard
March 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Lozis want the whole Zambia to respect their useless paper called BA64. I for one say no. I am not actually against the Lozis as a tribe but their nonsense to manipulate the nation to salute their regionalising paper. Let them jump into Zambezi river and go wherever they want, ITS 1 ZAMBIA 1 NATION in capital letters and end of debate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr.right
March 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm
If u think Barotseland is Western Province only,then u re very dull.I would advise you to browse for you to know the boundary.Barotseland is rich.I urge you to reseach more and more for you to know the boundary.
ndikalombwana kachende
March 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm
@ Mampala, Barotse will be independent just give it time.can you grow up my cousin.There are lozis out there who are civilised and who knows this BRE issue you can go and consult.Dividing our 1zambia1 nation ? do you know the boundaries ? part of southern,lusaka,copperbelt ,central,north western etc are part of this nosense BRE.
Did you consult all people from these provinces ? what is so special about you lozis than other tribes ?
By the way ,how old are you ?
Does your parents knows that you are browsing on this blog ?
Wabiya mulumbu wezu !!!
dogstyle
March 2, 2012 at 3:44 pm
thou shall not insult each other. we ar all originate from the same
fresh mind
March 2, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I’m a Lozi and currently in love with a Bemba woman to me i think its abit late for us to start thinking of separating from Zambia due to issues of inter-mariages and so forth though i know that issue is genuine.Lets allow the parliament to review the Chongwe commission of inquiry’s report and then decide but what i can say is lets just work on developing our under-developed province(WP) and be united as Zambians.Kihona.
shepa shepa
March 2, 2012 at 4:22 pm
bwafya
Chilima Wazafwetete
March 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Who were the members of the Chongwe commission of inquiry? I hope it was not dominated by Lozis and those who were against the regime of RB. I believe the commissioners were guided by their emotions and did not think through the issues. The people advocating for the restoration of the BA64 should handle this issue in a mature way otherwise there will be a lot of resentment against Lozis throughout Zambia.
KANGACHEPE
March 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm
It is true WP is poor, but tell me what made it poor? Why do my brothers hate MAGANDE? IS IT NOT THAT HE TOLD THEM THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW THE LITUNGA HAS BECOME TOO BIGTHAT HE OWN EVERYTHING- rabbits, grass, land fish aie etc you name. Basically the entire country is poor, no sinle region can claim to have been favoured by any leader. As for my brothers the Lozis, what you are asking for is ok as long as it ios in the spirit of the BA- NOT SECEDING. What happens to my children who are colourds(i.e. my wife is Lozi)? and my nephews, nieces- too many to mention who arte all “colourds”? I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO APPLY FOR LOZI/BAROTSE CITIZENSHIP. THNX.
cmm
March 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Now I truly understand why people say lozi’s are selfish and self centered. They never want to stay with other people other than themselves. That’s why us africans will never develop as long as such groups like lozi’s exist.
Chunky
March 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm
The COI on the mongu riots was formed to establish the cause of the riots. Most of you here may now have to be told that the riots were caused by the desire of Barotseland issue that the agreement be restored.
When rupiah refused to allow people to demonstrate, he called police to fight his own people.
Surely, can’t you see that the riots emerge from the need to restore the agreement that foolish Kaunda sat on.
Chomgweand mingomba,and the other commissioners are right.
Chunky
March 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Chilima wa zafwete, among the nine commissioners were mungomba Willard, chief nalubamba, chomgwe himself, and if am not mistaken, several non lozi speaking people.
Check the details.
These guys are interested in Zambia remaining what it is,and this will occur by honouring the BA64.
No dodging chilima
kiduli
March 2, 2012 at 7:38 pm
“…you come from your mother and you never look back to see how it looks like”
Cheerful Giver
March 2, 2012 at 10:21 pm
One Zambia, One Nation.
Are all ethnic groups of this part of Zambia interested in having lozis as the supreme group above all?
mankind
March 2, 2012 at 10:39 pm
@mr right.you are very right.bre stretches beyond western province.southern central northwestern and parts of the copperbelt provinces.now the issue is.if bre was independent,do you think the lambas the lundas the lenjes of the other part of bre would want to be led by lozi’s.hell no.bre is not for lozi’s alone.so why is this selfish tribe trying to be independent.independent from who/what?is someone opressing them.
mankind
March 2, 2012 at 10:42 pm
@cheerfull giver.the answer is no.
Mini me
March 3, 2012 at 7:53 am
There are two issues here that people are mixing up;
1. Restoration of the BA64
2. Secesion of Barotse Land
I think number 2 will not be possible but number 1 can work out.
Drugsquard
March 3, 2012 at 10:58 am
Lozi Bull, this is new. I only know a Tonga Bull and a Ngoni Bull..oh and a Bemba Pepe.
kabau
March 3, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The precedent that the current govt is setting will also catch up with them. I mean if they can ask Shikapwasha and dr Phiri to pay K900M, because it is regarded as their own making, what will stop another govt from asking Sata to pay all the monies for the meaningless and useless CoI?
Bulozinahayaluna
March 3, 2012 at 11:05 pm
from the outbursts of people on this page showing such ignorance of facts, one can just for once agree with Michael sata when he said once that most zambians were not only robbed democrasy by KK, but he also robbed them off their brains.
what many people from zed do not understand is that the reason GRZ isd refusing to resore and implement the barotseland agreement is that that agreement calls for a federal kind of state where politicians actually lose power to the people through the african democrasy of chiefs. GRZ do not want to share power with the chiefs and peoples of barpotseland. thats why you will probably never hear lamba chies, kaonde chiefs, tonga chiefs etc who were governmend through barotseland ever complaing. during that time, they enjoyed absolute soverignity over their chiefdoms with powers to mange investments, taxes, wildlife, invirolmenatl issues etc. and the chiefs and indunas used to be paid for it, unlike now when they are made to be peupers from the central government! what one need to reserch is how the people of barotseland governmend themselves before 1964 and you will understand that alot of people are missing those old days. wheather you chaps like it or not, barotseland will be rstored. Final.