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The Post Newspapers Responds To Critics Over Published Nude Photos ‘Those criticising us are wasting their time & they are not serious people to be taken serious’
Since our publication of pictures from Kalingalinga’s Mayela Nightclub on December 27, 2012, so many comments have been made. Some have gone all out to attack us, insult us and abuse us in all sorts of ways. It’s tempting to throw up one’s hands in exasperation. There is an interesting conundrum going on over this issue.
We have carefully listened to everything that has been said. We have truthfully and deeply meditated over this issue without any dogmas and with broadmindedness, listening to everyone, without thinking that we are the owners of the absolute truth, wisdom.
We respect the views that have been expressed on those pictures. But we don’t agree with them. Some things need sober and deeper reflection. It’s not just a question of being able to condemn or denounce something. This is the easiest thing for anyone to do – there is nothing difficult about denouncing or condemning anything.
We are not a reckless newspaper. We care about our country and our people and we have always defended their rights and freedoms. But we also have a duty to reflect to our people the state of their nation. We are a mirror. If you don’t like the image of yourself in the mirror, don’t break the mirror. Simply change your image.
The pictures that we had published were not arranged by us, nobody was asked by us to pose for a picture. It wasn’t The Sun page 3 type of picture where one is asked to pose and then the newspaper publishes. What we published is the image of what goes on in our public places today.
The young men and women in those pictures come from your homes; they are your sons and daughters. And that’s how they behave in public after they leave your homes. They are not sons and daughters of The Post; none of those people is an employee of The Post or a son or daughter of the editors and reporters of The Post. They are your sons and daughters. They come from your homes. They are a product of your own hands.
Our photographers did not enter any private place to take those pictures; they were in a public place, open to everyone. And in that place even under-18s were there.
If you have failed to control your children, to discipline your children, to bring up your children in a certain way, it is certainly not our fault. If you have a problem with those pictures, the solution is not to attack us, to denounce us, to try and discredit us. The solution lies in changing the behaviour of your children. If you have failed to inculcate a certain type of morality in your children, it is not the fault of The Post.
Some have even gone to suggest that we published nude pictures. This is not true. The simple Oxford Dictionary definition of nude is “…not wearing any clothes”. Everyone in those pictures was wearing clothes.
This issue is a complex one. And if one is not careful, they can find themselves running in circles, in contradictions and hypocrisy. We see highly dignified people in this country officiating at beauty contests where the competing girls are in bikinis, underpants. We also see respected citizens officiating at contests of bodybuilders wearing only underpants.
And the Zambian media often publishes those pictures. Nobody raises issues. Why?
We have looked at the issue from a legal, political and religious angle. From the legal point of view, we don’t think we have violated any law of this country.
If we have violated any law, we ask the authorities to effect an arrest on the editor of The Post and accordingly prosecute him for the offence. From the political angle, of course, there are always people who wait anxiously to find anything they can attack The Post on, and they jumped on this issue in desperation to harangue The Post. We are used to this type of thing. We know there are vultures, hyenas waiting for us to fall and feast on us. Their time hasn’t come. They will not make much political capital against us out of those pictures.
And from the religious angle, we have considered the Gospel accounts. And we can clearly see that Jesus’ spirituality wasn’t one of withdrawal from the world, of moving away from everyday life in order to better serve God, of denying everyday realities. In John 17:15, Jesus asked his Father to keep his disciples from evil without taking them out of the world.
Jesus’ entire existence was one of immersion in the ideological conflict, in the arena where different concepts and options for or against the oppressed were discussed. Nor was Jesus’ spirituality that of moralism. That is the spirituality of the Pharisees, who turn their moral virtues into a sort of conquest of sanctity.
Many Christians have been trained along these lines and lose strength in their faith because they don’t manage to adjust to the pharisaical moralism they seek. God seems to live on the top of a mountain, and spirituality is taught as a manual for mountain climbing to be used by Christians interested in scaling its steep slopes. Since we are of a fragile nature, we begin our climb over and over again – it is the constant repetition of the Sisyphus legend, rolling the stone uphill.
Now, then, one of the best examples of Jesus’ non-moralism is the story of his encounter with the Samaritan woman. From the point of view of the morals prevailing in those times, she was an outcast – for being a woman, a Samaritan, and a concubine. It was to that woman, however, that Jesus first revealed the messianic nature of his mission.
And interesting dialogue took place between them: “The woman said to him, ‘Sir, give me this water, that I may not thirsty, nor come here to draw.’
“Jesus said to her, ‘Go, call your husband, and come here.’ The woman answered him, “I have no husband.” Jesus said to her, ‘You are right in saying, “I have no husband”; for you have had five husbands, and he whom you now have is not your husband; this you said truly.”
The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshipped on this mountain; and you say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father…But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth” (John 4:15-23).
At no time did Jesus recriminate her for having had six men in her life. He was interested in verifying that she was real. She didn’t lie, didn’t take a pharisaical position; therefore, she was able to adore “in spirit and truth,” in a subjective opening to God and in an objective commitment to the truth. Thus, Jesus showed that Christian life wasn’t a movement of man toward God; before that, there is God’s love directed toward man.
God loves us irremediably. It only remains for us to know if we are more or less open to that love, for every love relationship demands reciprocity and entails absolute freedom. Christian morality, then, doesn’t stem from our pharisaical intention of being sinless; it is a consequence of our love relationship with God, as love imposes fidelity in a couple.
There is hypocrisy in this issue. Some of the people who are on record complaining are of very low moral levels. Some of them are people whose sexual conduct is far from what they are trying to portray. Some of them are men and women who undress for very young girls and boys to have sex with them. What morality are they trying to preach?
We have also looked at the way our ancestors used to dress not very long ago. These people would arrest them today if they were to come back and dress the way they used to. Our museums have pictures of how our people used to dress from the early 1900 to the late 1950s. We can publish these pictures and hear what these so-called moralists would say.
Clearly, this is not a simple issue. It is a very complex matter that calls for sober reflection and meditation and not emotional outbursts.
If some people are really obsessed with what is going on, what has been depicted in those pictures, let them swing into action and stop it in our nightclubs and other public places. Trying to nail The Post to the cross over showing them what is going on will not stop that type of conduct.
It is interesting that some of these characters are not even concerned about those who were in the pictures, but they have directed their anger solely at The Post. They are wasting their time and they are not serious people to be taken serious.
If they are serious people, let them go to Kalingalinga every Friday and preach the morality they claim to possess and change things to suit their desires. Stopping the media from informing the nation about the nature of their society will not change what they don’t like. The problem is not The Post publishing those pictures. The problem lies with what goes on. If you don’t like those pictures, go and change things in Kalingalinga and other places where such things take place.
The Post Newspapers
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nakadinya
January 7, 2013 at 3:08 pm
I agree with you go post go I like the last paragraph good.
VJ Rigger
January 7, 2013 at 3:13 pm
You expect homo sexuals to change mwe bantu sure.Homos are arrogant animals.
Zebige
January 7, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Spot on.The paper that digs deeper indeed.
mubanga
January 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Correct !
Ba medza
January 7, 2013 at 3:33 pm
True ba Post,imorality is not just in clubs but even in public places we are seeing women & girls walking almost naked @ times seeing their private parts shaped clealy in those trousers of theirs anyway we enjoy seeing that its good for the eyes.
kakolwe
January 7, 2013 at 3:51 pm
Points you have indeed, but has it ever occured to you that ‘If you go hunting for a fault in a person, you will surely find it-for they are human’. We know that these children even f”ck each other senseless in lawns, but we do not need you to show us! Bupuba!
Eyamukwai Airways
January 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Sense my man, Fred is a Homo and does not care.
Ba Pettie
January 7, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Bravo ba Post,
Do not succumb to people who have nothing to say. You have really hammered them where it hurts most; you have told them the truth.They are definitely ashamed of themselves and crest fallen.
I am pretty sure you have shut them up for good.
STUNNER Jr
January 7, 2013 at 4:01 pm
True that!Ncwala ceremony fingi tumona.Why ar some old men naive?They r attackn the post yet they ar busy snatchn our babez frm us.Ba Post we got yo back!!
SAKA
January 7, 2013 at 10:16 pm
BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER FLY TOGETHER…HOMO FOR HOMO
ibolo mukati
January 7, 2013 at 4:02 pm
back door mu sight papa nice one
hurricane
January 7, 2013 at 4:05 pm
The post are just sayin th truth…. Becoz wataver thy ryt n post is simply th info thy collect
Mailon
January 7, 2013 at 4:22 pm
But you pipo are dull.The issue is not about telling or showing us what happens in our society.Those pictures are surely rated 18 and papers today are read even by my 8 year old boy.We know what happens.Even in the western world they have an adult film industry but they wont show porn in daily newspapers read by even children.The response from the Post actually demonstrates what arogance does to a person.They try to justify their idiocy.Just yesterday they insisted that Sata should not be critisised Anyway we have an option which is notto buy the ****** PF Newsletter and thereby not only protect our children but also leave the fools to read together with their cadres.
Kibinda waba Kabwa
January 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm
they “The Sun” on page 3; and other daily media in the UK; you will see that here such pictures are everywhere.
Chinsoma
January 8, 2013 at 9:20 am
Mailon brothers have finaly decided to be heard, unfortunately with very microscopic sense.
FARM PEOPLE
January 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm
DALISO. How can you look in someones future like that? Kuloleshako ilinso limo.
UCZ - (Unfinished Church of Zambia)
January 7, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Let any man who did not look at that picture more than once be the first one to cast a stone at Mmembe.
DIGGERS
January 7, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Ba post you are right, keep it up.
Janet c
January 7, 2013 at 4:55 pm
ba Post – bravo indeed. The same Ministers condeming those pictures frequent those kalingalinga clubs each and every night looking for the same nudeness – zambians, hypiocrites as usual!!!!!
KA GELO
January 7, 2013 at 4:55 pm
I agree with the Post 100%. The only who were attacking the newspaper must be horny sugar daddies who patronise these places are worried and frightened that the Post will show their big bellies. Eee, camikalipa sana bambuli. Go Post go, dig dipper.
KA GELO
January 7, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Oh sorry, dig deeper not dipper. Kwati nshili form 4 was cambridge certificate sure.
KASABULA
January 7, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Yaba, ici ci gelo calisungapo drumstick nefyashala. The ones condemning frequent these places.
Bazamuka
January 7, 2013 at 5:09 pm
I am just wondering what the people at the post newspapers are trying to communicate. When refering repeatedly to ‘your sons & daughters, …. what do they mean? Are they not part of the society? When refering us to how people of old used to dress, are they telling us it was a good picture as good old people moved about naked? I can’t understand except to say it is defending the indefensible….its full of contradictions. Only God who knows the motive will judge justly.
lumpen
January 7, 2013 at 5:11 pm
iwe ka fred. you paper is not rated 18+ . your paper is read by school kids. you sick in the head little wonder you surport PF. Yourself you are a typical hyna.
mc
January 7, 2013 at 5:12 pm
akanyo ukutikama kwena,wouldnt mind tasting that cake mwebantu!
MUNYELO PWETE!
January 7, 2013 at 5:17 pm
What a fat ass! Anyway, ba Post continue exposing how far our society has gone in terms of moral decay! I strongly suspect this must be Janet C!
mc
January 7, 2013 at 5:37 pm
hahahahhaha munyelo pwete,ine wandepula!Janet c chifundo ine mummy,kansi uli na ya mushe cake.noti kukalipa mummy!
Janet c
January 7, 2013 at 5:30 pm
@ Munyelo Pwete – I am reliably informed that is your mother in that picture!!!
danny
January 7, 2013 at 5:40 pm
iwe respect ones parents,youre cursiny yrself,has munyelo involved yr parents.ka swine iwe!Youve potrayed yrself as a gold digging why retaliate.YOU MADE YR BED SO LAY IN IT!
Janet c
January 7, 2013 at 6:11 pm
And your point is???? Just stay out of ppl’s business you nosey little koswe
Umupandapwiti
January 7, 2013 at 5:39 pm
I agree that the woman was not naked. African bodies(women) look like they are naked even when they are wearing something. If it was a white woman, I am sure non of the bloggers complaining would have even noticed her. Point of correction to whoever wrote this article, the person in the photo is not a child, she is a grown woman.
kalulete
January 7, 2013 at 5:58 pm
just STOP buying friday’s edition because no one is forced to buy ( aya facts aya aya facts)
mundala
January 7, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Ba post correct nafuti-imwe dimwe fikali
Truth2
January 7, 2013 at 6:07 pm
am that we share the same thought.At one time on this site i posted comment or suggestion to tumfweko that you sould be going to night clubs and pick up stories and pictures so that you teach those parents that gives their chldren money for clubing at weekends that this is what you realy send your childrens for in the name of having fun.
bei
January 7, 2013 at 6:11 pm
I agree with u ba post u r the best and keep it up
Air Mukwai_
January 7, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Ubukwebo bushilangwa tabashita.
This is the job for she does and she has to allure men to get soup.
kafwimbi
January 7, 2013 at 6:46 pm
Lame explanation, if people insult you also publish insults because you are just a mirror? Publishing nude pictures is forbiden by law. Just stop the rot.
Mushota
January 7, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Zambian men at it what is wrong with the ladie’s dress? these are some of the ladies you cheat on your wives with,now that you have been exposed you start pretending as if you do not find that photo erotic.
Air Mukwai_
January 7, 2013 at 10:24 pm
Welcome Mushota from ZT.
This is exactly what we see at beaches. I wish men could see more of this in bangweulu and shaving a.
tough gong zimandola
January 7, 2013 at 6:57 pm
Ngatwabafula pa street ati respect women. Namayo ukumunakilila kuti alaenshafye icinyo paminwe. pantu bafikala naimwe mulataluka icishinka (fact ) umwaume umutuntulu nga amona icinyo bufwile bwaima. elyo uku filinga mwanakashi temwaume iyo! mukalanda mukanaka tukalamitombela abana ngamaule. Post keep it up.
True bantustans:
January 7, 2013 at 7:09 pm
indofu yakwa namugala nangu masebo
season 24 of 24
January 7, 2013 at 7:11 pm
roten morals in sons and dotas.
pump tea
January 7, 2013 at 9:06 pm
No! mothers and aunties
digger
January 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm
ba post muli mbama you ar jst tellin pipo wat z happenin muchalo
elijah
January 7, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Eyamukwai Airways, I have known Fred all my life. Went to school with him. Since when did he become a homo? Check out your facts before you speak, you fool.
Maliseni
January 7, 2013 at 9:40 pm
This response from the Post is nothing else than an arrogant display of folly. As Proverbs 14:9 declares: ‘Fools mock at making amends for sin…’
zenuz
January 7, 2013 at 9:43 pm
KUTI NAMUNYENGA MAYO UYU…!
jn
January 7, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Post you have lost credibility,i was once a follower of post not anymore,its a shame that you can even justify the unjustifiable.shame on you
Idiots
Steve
January 7, 2013 at 10:26 pm
I used to enjoy your comments Janet C but now you seem to be falling in the trap of bad language too much. My advice to you is never answer back every senseless comments.
bafishinka
January 7, 2013 at 10:35 pm
uyu mubili wapang’anda fye…but you wonder efyo ailemukufwaya. Do not blame the post balemilangafwe ifichitika kubatemwikwabenu.Namumone efyo DALISO Alemwenekesha??
Mac B
January 7, 2013 at 10:54 pm
I agree with the post, actually this is simple, if we people start dressing modestly, believe me we will not be seeing those pictures mu post.
Boycott Post
January 7, 2013 at 11:29 pm
Mirror? What a lie these journalists love telling. A mirror reflects everything but media Direct readers to what it wants u to look at and hides what it doesn’t want u to see. That’s no mirror. The Post is so pompous it thinks it is the owner of press freedom in Zambia. Its time we boycotted this political used condom that has no respect for Zambia
kakolwe
January 8, 2013 at 2:51 am
O Ye of little exposure. Do you know that there are ‘topless’ nite clubs, even 100% nude clubs? That is world wide! Unfortunately, its only women who undress to lure menn in. Should we go in to take pictures so as to show our kids what their fathers see? Bupuba!
Air Mukwai_
January 8, 2013 at 12:45 pm
It’s legal in some countries to have strippers in night clubs but illegal in Zed. So baba, they should be expensed and show the mass what a Christian Nation means to many.
Shimika
January 8, 2013 at 7:01 am
That’s M’membe ‘The Preacher’ for u….Bakaamba abena Fred bakali….And if u ar attempting to go on a criticism expedition of his actions or perceived wrongs, U HAD BETTER DEVELOP VERY SOLID DEFENSIBLE REASONS & LETHAL MISSILES BEFORE U ATTACK HIM. otherwise u shall be striving against the wind and your utter end will be sheer embarrassment and defeat.This Guy is well read and we are definately lucky to have him as a country. Just read thru his ‘Sermon’ again and U will understand wat i mean…So my advice to his armchair opposers and critics is..U CANT MONKEY WITH THAT GUY…GET OVER IT…kikikikiki…Besides, pictures, nude or otherwise, in private or public ar not a big issues like sam quarters ar attempting to blow…Let us concentrate on finding ways and solutions to assist our brothers and sisters in the rural areas fight poverty…at least before we leave this planet….FREE ADVICE IGNORE IT AT YO OWN PERIL….
Comfort
January 8, 2013 at 7:53 am
The bible says its possible to raise a fool!! never ever shud u blame parents for ur wrong expression of freedom.its in da name of freedm u choose to strut ur privates in public,its mens deliberate muv to look at thes images in da choice of clubs,but who raised u mmembe to be an immoral advocate to da masses below da age of 18 who gave u da title of invincible dat u cannot listen to reason.if u can comfortably say ur parents,children nd wife/wives can read ur post at da same time,u are a mad man.to HELL with you.
Liciana
January 8, 2013 at 8:13 am
Correct, you speak the truth ba Post, teach your children to dress well and behave well in public, we all go to clubs well dressed not chimayo ico ubu hule bweka bweka mumatako. Thats y Bana leka bamuna kumikwatila imbwa imwe. Continue exposing them ba post you are doing a great job.
Mmembe
January 8, 2013 at 9:10 am
Homos ll always side with fellow homos
Simuwelu Bernard
January 8, 2013 at 9:21 am
I’m sure those who critise are not serious. I was of hope that this will let us know how our children behave when they are out of our homes. It actually gives us an insite for us parents to be on the look out and use the acquired knowledge to talk and discipline our children.
Tumfweko go ahead and expose these things even more.
thank you.
Kiyosaki
January 8, 2013 at 9:43 am
Those who want to see these nude bodies follow them to night clubs. But please do not bring them to our homes through the newspapers that are even read by well disciplined children who seek genuine and honest news from the newspapes. These are the people whose morals should be protected. Forget about the so called respectable people who sleep with young girls and boys. Please accept correction, its a sign of maturity and not weakness.
Air Mukwai_
January 8, 2013 at 12:49 pm
These are the same children expensing their bodies. So which children are you talking about?