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Dette Resources Foundation Welcomes Gay Marriage Rights In Zambia
We take great exception to accusations by Home Affairs Minister Edger Lungu that some Civil Society Organizations in Zambia are being used or about to be used to fight for gay rights in the county for money. To the contrary, our support for people with different sex orientation has nothing to do with+ the money the minister is insinuating. As the term gay right suggests. These people are no different from the rest of us in terms of rights and duties.
These people have such rights as life, good health, education, employment and protection by the state from internal and external enemies to mention but a few as provided for in the constitution that which we seek to protect.
As a signatory to the United Nations Declaration for Human Rights, the Zambia government has a duty to provide protection to all people in Zambia regardless of their status.
We feel no shame siding with people who have different sex orientation. We are not going to be first people to side with people with strange tendencies. Jesus Christ, the son of God side with people who had some strange tendencies. If we recollect correctly, the scriptures are full of stories involving the Son of God frequenting the house of prostitutes which earned him a condemnation from people that thought there more holy than the Son of God.
At time, he rebuked Judas Iscariot for resenting a prostitute who anointed his feet with expense oil at his feet, saying the woman could have done better had she donated the oil as the oil could have been sold and the proceeds taken to the poor. In response Jesus asked the other disciples whether Judas Iscariot really cared for the poor or he wanted the money appropriate money to himself after the said sale.
The people whose rights we are trying to protect could be compared to the weak people that frequented the feet of Jesus in the scriptures seeking help and support. Jesus gave us an example of siding with the weak when he said I did not come for the righteous and the strong but the weak and the people.
The vulnerable and the marginalized people such as people with different sex orientation need the people of everyone. That is reason the United Nations devised the laws under the UNDHR which we as a nations are a signatory.
We as a nation have domesticated clause which prevent victimization of people by color, sex orientation, religion, political affiliation to mention but a few under the current law. This allows people of different culture to practice religion, culture and social beliefs and activities. Zambia has 72 tribes plus or minus and therefore a practice of every tribe is respected as it is a human right. Capturing and collection of data is important for any citizen to make informed decision or public statements.
We feel it was unfair for the Honorable Minister to have threatened the civil society organization and those that discuss or will champion Lesbians, gay’s bisexual transgender and intersex (LGBTI) rights in the Zambia. It is not true that those who want to use money are wasting their time because the practice is unZambian.
We therefore wish to inform the minister that Dette Resources Foundation will not be cowed by the threat from the minister. Our organization will join other countries in protecting the rights of people with different sex orientation.
Dette Resources Foundation is of the view that LGBTI as human beings need to be treated with love, Respect and dignity.
The LGBTI in Zambia have been forced to live in hiding and isolation from man and not from God.
The issues of LGBTIs are not in Europe but are Zambian citizens. Besides, many of the LGBTI voted for Patriotic Front in order to have access to what is due to them .For instance, Non discrimination and equal access to health care etc. We shouldn’t wait for the nation to be struck and that is when we want to find remedies.
LGBTIs could be discussed to reduce such unwarranted statements and tension. Some government ministers are fond of uttering statements without reflecting on the facts which has made it so difficult for them to reverse after knowing the truth.
Human rights do not look at the face but is inclusive and interdependant.The issue of LGBTI being contentious is because we are so comfortable in burying our heads in the sand. A fierce campaign for families to discuss sexuality with their children is a subject to be discussed further as LGBTI are part of the families where it all begins. Just like any sexual practiced and sexual arousing is not defined in any religion, culture or tradition.
We humbly request the government and in particular Honorable Edgar Lungu to critically analyze Human Rights for the Gays and call all stakeholders in the Health, Judicially and the Human right commission to weigh the impact of LGBTI in Zambia.
Yours,
Jane Kaluba (Ms)
Executive Director
Dette Resources Foundation
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NO in JESUS NAME
March 27, 2013 at 8:05 pm
NO IN JESUS NAME. THAT LADY JANE FROM DEEP DOWN HER HEART SHE KNOWS ITS WRONG SHEZ SUPPORTING COZ OF HER HUNGER INSALA. IF YOUR FATHER WAS GAY WERE U GOIN TO BE BORN ? Its inhuman/evil/satanism etc
makasa
March 28, 2013 at 8:57 am
peaple you missing the point, the truth is that there peaple out there who are gay and they need to be protected.
kalulumpunga
March 28, 2013 at 10:50 am
Pamputi yako Jane Kaluba iwe no wonder you are not married!
Mungoma
March 28, 2013 at 4:41 pm
What they do need is help and treatment for mental aberration.
Makes sense
March 29, 2013 at 6:31 pm
Yes, there is nothing worse than a group of people being discriminated against and even persecuted.
The irony is that they actually quote the Bible to legitimize the hatred they feel.
Wanu Ngwee
March 28, 2013 at 11:47 am
I thought we had buried this issue. Are we back at it discussing and justifying why men should convert sewerage organs for recreational ones? It’s like using your sink as a lavatory and toilet bow as your sink – think about! Sick isn’t it?
Janet c
March 28, 2013 at 2:13 pm
If me using my lavatory as a sink has no impact on you Wanu Ngwee – then what is your problem? It is my choice right.
Same with gays, are they using your anus Wanu Ngwee – if not, then you have nothing to fear
carol
March 28, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Janet haven’t you seen my massage? Read Mathew 19:4, Genesis 1:27, Mark 10:6, 1Corinthians 11:7 and lastly, read Ecclesiastes 7:29 in Jesus Name. Amen.
lipato
March 27, 2013 at 8:27 pm
The problem is not the writer but the person who taught you human right.
The Bible says learn from the Animals I have given you. Now if I may ask, the closet animal to man is a dog, have you seen a female dog bonking a female dog, male v male.
It seems the writer of this piece of sheet is ignorant with what he is sayings rights were made by men and women in 1935, I’m prompted to understand that the rights were derived from the ten commandments.
If the commandment says thou shall not commit adultery, how about bonking your fellow woman.
Be Real
March 27, 2013 at 8:35 pm
To hell ….. Please just go straight to the lake of fire…. thats where ther’s such non sense. This is a Christian Nation
Janet c
March 28, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Christian nation – my foot. Where adultery is rampant, even in the church; rape, alcoholism, gluttony, etc – and you call this a christian nation!!!! Zambia is actually a morally bankrupt nation
carol
March 28, 2013 at 2:39 pm
You are the one making it to be like that because of your behaviour.
Man of God
March 28, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Janet C, adultery, rape, alcoholism, gluttony etc are sins as you insunuate. We do not want to add another sin. You are blind and if you do not change, the lake of fire awaits you. Jesus loves you and does not want you to perish. I love you too and I have prayed for you.
truly zambian
March 27, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Forced to write the above article to survive
Iye!
March 27, 2013 at 9:23 pm
God help your soul
Iye!
March 27, 2013 at 9:23 pm
God help your souls
chinio chakwe
March 27, 2013 at 9:30 pm
Wa inchinio ubukulu chinio chobe chabola iwe chi Jane
Chosen
March 27, 2013 at 9:36 pm
What is strange about prostitution? Jesus did not come for strange people but for sinners. And he did not come to protect them but to straighten them up. He came to warn them about the wrath of God. To tell them to repent. Naimwe ba Jane repent! This is my messege from God
katolika
March 27, 2013 at 10:39 pm
help us dear lord
Abena PJ
March 27, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Whennever Jesus is reported to associate with strange people and sinners, it was for the purpose of converting them. That is why he told the prostitute that her sins were forgiven. Tradition tells us that this woman changed and became an ardent follower of Jesus (Mary Magdalene). The woman who was broght to Jesus by the pharisees and saducees accused of commiting adultery was told by Jesus – “Go and sin no more.” Lazarus the short man (Tax collector) whose home Jesus visited was also converted and he promised to pay back with interest from whoever he has stolen. your defence of gay rights suggests no change but that we must accomodate their sin because they have rights. So must we legalise prostitution in Zambia because prostitutes are people like you and me with rights? Must we legalise crime because people who indulge is such are people like you and me with rights? I have a strong feeling Jane Kaluba is a lesbian and so hers is a cry for recognition! But certain things which go against natural laws will never be right or look right even in a million years to come.
Xristian
March 28, 2013 at 2:05 am
prostitutes have the right to make a living & gay rights are human rights. get used to it!!
CHIPESHAA & ZAMBIA WPAC
March 28, 2013 at 2:23 pm
It was Zacheaus and not Lazarus who was the tax collector. Please read the bible passage again.
CHIPESHAA & ZAMBIA WPAC
March 28, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Dear Xristian,
You are right in your own eyes but not before God. Did right grow on a tree so that prostitutes have them? Or were you born out of prostitution?
I know you understand but be more reasonable.
Thanks
Abena PJ
March 27, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Whenever Jesus is reported to associate with strange people and sinners, it was for the purpose of converting them. That is why he told the prostitute that her sins were forgiven. Tradition tells us that this woman changed and became an ardent follower of Jesus (Mary Magdalene). The woman who was broght to Jesus by the pharisees and saducees accused of commiting adultery was told by Jesus – “Go and sin no more.” Lazarus the short man (Tax collector) whose home Jesus visited was also converted and he promised to pay back with interest from whoever he has stolen. your defence of gay rights suggests no change but that we must accomodate their sin because they have rights. So must we legalise prostitution in Zambia because prostitutes are people like you and me with rights? Must we legalise crime because people who indulge is such are people like you and me with rights? I have a strong feeling Jane Kaluba is a lesbian and so hers is a cry for recognition! But certain things which go against natural laws will never be right or look right even in a million years to come.
Xristian
March 28, 2013 at 2:08 am
Thats your jesus not everyones.
ub40
March 27, 2013 at 11:50 pm
so what,let gays enjoys bum sex
LOVE
March 28, 2013 at 2:09 am
its not about sex! Its about who they love!!
Kaso-man
March 27, 2013 at 11:57 pm
I think this shud not be given any space 4 discussion. Anything tht does nt come frm GOD or the BIBLE is antichristianity, so Mwila tuposela inshita twalibako busy with discussing matters of national development and not this trash or animalistic issues. My dear forget thts a non starter mu Zambia .
CHIPESHAA & ZAMBIA WPAC
March 28, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Why should we keep quiet? Do you know that people in Zambia are already doing this at a higher level of quality? They are having sex not with fellow human beings but with animals. Will you support the wedding of your daughter or you son to a dog? Try giving us an example and lead by divorcing you current wife or husband and then marry one who is like you. The results will be very simple.
So we can not keep quiet but we need to do the right things and advise each other as brothers and sisters in the lord. However, know that there will be a day of judgment. think about it my dear.
love you
humphrey
March 27, 2013 at 11:58 pm
just say you are amongst them than pretending to side with them
SK
March 28, 2013 at 12:35 am
Zambia did not sign any human rights for faggots! All Africans countries did turn it down except SA, so do not lie to people.
Born that way
March 28, 2013 at 2:11 am
what if one of your kids become one? Whaat will you do? Its not a choice, there born that way!!
Man of God
March 28, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Please explain to us this born that way. God made them male and female and gave them sexual organs specifically for reproduction. Any other way is just anti God. Jesus the Son of God Loves you.
Serious Gay
March 28, 2013 at 12:39 am
Please leave us alone, we love what we do, we meet with M’membe and others. I love to kiss the guys. The lips are so nice.
Flora
March 28, 2013 at 2:16 am
cheap talk! stop giving gays a bad name you homophobic t r a s h
joseph Maria
March 28, 2013 at 2:18 am
jesus was bisexual, he loved both women and men!
Mwana Mfumu
March 28, 2013 at 1:53 pm
u r pathetic
Uncle B'
March 28, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Ba Joseph be careful with what u say and the words u use!
CHIPESHAA & ZAMBIA WPAC
March 28, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Be sincere to yourself my dear. You are confusingly mixing issues. Are you parents also bisexual? think right. you are a good person
zèb mâjør
March 28, 2013 at 5:54 am
pipo lets nt be deceived this pipo…. GOD will punish us…..we all know that this is wrong, ‘& u want to legalize it….. May the ALMIGHTY GOD FORGIVE U IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS…… We are in the last days (REVELATIONS)
CHIPESHAA & ZAMBIA WPAC
March 28, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Hi Zeb,
When did the last days begin? I think we are heading for a crush. And why are you stating that God will punish us? God did not punish Noah or Lot but punished the others. Which side are you? take care my dear.
ING'OMBE ILEDE
March 28, 2013 at 6:14 am
You need deliverance, God forbid and GOD bless Zambia from this SODOM mind
Umusambashi
March 28, 2013 at 6:43 am
If Go has been for this rubbish, why did he destroy Sodom and Gomorah? This gayism and lesbianism, bisexuality is all satanic….only the devil encourages such disgusting activities. What i know to be allowed by God is sex Between one man and one women who are married…..this even in the book of Corinthians is encouraged to have i often not aya ama rubbish yakwa uyu mayo Jane…mwatti alupwa, afuma kkubantu abefunda lyakwa Lesa mukulu…. Mayo iwe we leta imipashi shabu Jezebel muno chalo, lead pipo to Jesus Christ for true salvation
FEAR GOD
March 28, 2013 at 7:37 am
The writer has no human heart ,does she mean to say that those that steal and kill should be allowed to enjoy what they do because they are human beings ,what is wrong is wrong people need to be corrected ,ZAMBIA is a christian nation ,even a dog knows it’s partner ,fill the earth how will you do it if you are gay ——.
CHIPESHAA & ZAMBIA WPAC
March 28, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Hi Fear God,
Are you sure Zambia is really a Christian Nation or you have forgotten the reality and you are just following the Declaration by some sinful person who was a prostitute himself?
Has God approved that surely Zambia is Christian Nation? Please rethink.
Thank you
man chilu
March 28, 2013 at 7:42 am
lets not use the bible incorrectly…first of all yes Jesus Christ did not come to condem but to save but one thing you should know is that he did not encourage prostitution no did he encourage theft after he dinned with these pipo…we are not going to allow Guy rights in Zambia and we shall not even practise it. if you got the money from these guys please just return it.
Bull
March 28, 2013 at 7:49 am
Rubbish! Ms Who? get a life
profet
March 28, 2013 at 7:56 am
Jane is an embicile
xxx
March 28, 2013 at 8:05 am
This shit will not happen in Zambia!!!
THE ONE
March 28, 2013 at 8:09 am
you will make those pipo to be killed if bring such rites in zambia
shikulu
March 28, 2013 at 8:21 am
Jane or wateva u call yoself plz stp exhibiting stupidity to the highest level. Cn u plz stp advocatn 4such nonsense. Wonda if u evn go to church, God z watchn. May such rubbish b blockd in zed in the nem of Jesus.
Kopekaya
March 28, 2013 at 8:39 am
ubu bwena bupuba, u can see people nicely dressed and good looking, kanshi mumutwe mwaba amafi, honestly speaking, wether christian or not christian, kuti waya muku tomba pamputi ( anus)apafuma amafi?
believer 7
March 28, 2013 at 8:42 am
She is unmarried no wonder she is lesbian this lady..God help you!
KASABULA
March 28, 2013 at 8:53 am
Jane, how do you lesbians do each other?
Kaso-man
March 28, 2013 at 9:09 am
Can Sam 1 explain hw this thing ( lesbian and Gay) came abt especially a medical professional, is this satanic or scientific? In the past these things wre not there, lets get back 2 our cultures and c if these things will B tolerated by our fo fathers. So pliz Jane Kaluba go back ku Lubemba and consult, dnt tarnish the name of this country coz of Money. I thnk it’s high time we stopped accepting evrythng inflicted on us by these Bigger countries weve got our cultures.Thts why Islamic countries ar considered 2 B difficult it’s bcoz of this, let this come 2 an end once and 4 all.
makasa
March 28, 2013 at 9:14 am
OK, the big Question is are there gays in zambia? Whether it is wrong or not. but if we have them,then they need to be protected, we cant be barring are our heads in the sand. so jane do you have people in zambia who have think or know that there are gay? then go on and get them the protection.
JO BOY MNT
March 28, 2013 at 9:35 am
iwe jane have u eva sat down and think in a normal way of yo cult u are promoting gay/lesbian .God gave man 5 senses and gave him powers to look afta all Gods creation now nzelu zakupakilani mwayamba kuziboonka man vs man ,woman vs woman not even even a dog ,pig,cow,insect can sink that low twapya mwelesa tupokololeni kuli devil uyu jane an animal is better than u which does not have 5 senses
kivu
March 28, 2013 at 9:49 am
Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”1
Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltness is upon them”
Melchisedec
March 28, 2013 at 9:54 am
Ms. Jane Kaluba,
after having carefully read your article, I would like to make an observation.
The example given of Jesus and Mary during the feast at Simon’s house (John 12:3-8) had nothing to do with same sex marriage, relationships. Even, Mary of John 8:1-11 is of an adultery (man and woman) case and not lesbians.
No where in the Holy word does God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit defend such device.
In scripture, we find in Genesis 19 a mention of sodom, a city destroyed because of it’s inhabitants sinful nature, one of which was the principle sin of sodomy (homosexuality)
The Book of Romans 1:18-32, brings into view the sins of that time, notably of which men have up the natural use of women, and women likewise left man for woman, and God forsakes these and leaves them to the destruction of death.
Luke 17:26-30; Jude 7all mention sodom and it’s destruction, and if nothing was wrong with same sex relationship, why did God met out so strict a judgment.
I suggest you take truth as it is, to the Glory of God and not twist it to defend wrong lest you be found to have called God a liar, of which all who do so are of the Devil.
I suggest you equally prayerfully, read the Bible and ask for the Holy Spirit to help you understand what you are reading.
May the Lord, Jesus Christ guide your speech and thought.
mfumu
March 28, 2013 at 10:10 am
God have on us and the whole world
Kapaso wakwisano!
March 28, 2013 at 10:31 am
Sodom and gomorrah was banished a long time ago,pliz take that nonsense ukutali!
70 Tribes
March 28, 2013 at 10:33 am
CHI JANE ALA NDIWE CHOPUSA. MWANYA WE WILL DIE TO PROTEST AGIANST GAY DEMON.
malinso
March 28, 2013 at 10:34 am
ilyashi lya pa mputi,awe sivintu iliko bad.Surprising some married men in lusaka actually experiment with gay sex,they just like to fulfill their wildest fantasies.We know you……
shaka
March 28, 2013 at 10:39 am
ba swine were have u ever seen dogs of da same sex marrying each other…. ifyabupuba ukokwine in western countries ataaa… bashetana ukaye upa noko
free advice.com
March 28, 2013 at 10:53 am
niger please!in the beginning it was not adam and steve but adam and eve.
CK
March 28, 2013 at 11:04 am
Dear God, wonders shall never end. Man to man and woman to woman, pole Bible yakanya. Straight to the lake of fire. Stop advocating rubbish rights foolish Jane.
Angel
March 28, 2013 at 11:21 am
May God have mercy on us all,
Firstly, when you follow ancient Rome you find that is where sodomy,homosexuality was practiced, where soldiers would come from battles/wars victorious and engage in explicit sexual behavior including males and females, they considered themselves Gods and therefore took pleasure in vanity and materialism and a lot of other traits. the truth is this God himself clearly says
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22)
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13). While it is true that Jesus communed with Prostitutes, Murderers, Thieves, Liars, Adulterers etc. He did not do it to validate them and encourage such acts, he did it to save them from their sin. The Bible states, clearly how the right to judge is not up to us, Matthew 7:1 “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” because non of us are pure before the sight of God in Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” In summing up, we are a christian nation, but does their sin out weigh what we do in private, when no one is looking? let us not be quick to insult people for their faults, but if we truly are a Christian nation let us get on our Knees.. I leave you with Galatians 6:2-3.
Janet c
March 28, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Have you ppl stopped for 1 minute and asked yourselves who wrote this same bible that you like quoting????? It was written by the ceuropeans and used by colonialists to colonise Africa.
So to be honest, this bible of yours is Un-African – it was imposed on us by the europeans and here we are following it blindly, agressively and we think this bible will solve our social and economic woes.
face the reality – gays have always and wqill always exist – just like prostitutes, adulterers, thieves, drunkards – it is a normal part of society
Makes sense
March 29, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Thank you Janet C.
The Africans are as usual naiive. The bible is used as a cop out by Africans. “Only god can help us” “God will deal with them” “they’ll burn when they die” “Only god knows why”.
No! No! No! Open your eyes. The Europeans sold you the original idea, why are you refusing to buy their remodelled version which accepts the rights of alternative sexual orientations? After all, you follow them blindly.
Bible my foot!! Start living in the real world.
Wako ni wako
March 28, 2013 at 11:27 am
Gays are very sick people. Yes they need our love and protection the same way MAD people do. They have the right to be taken to Chainama Hospital to get medication.
mwebe
March 28, 2013 at 12:17 pm
As we debate lets put into considerations of the following factors-
1.Biological
2. Culture
3.Religion of the country
4.scientific explaination
I believe even rights have limits,In criminology it is believed that some criminals/murderers are born.Has any country in the world given rights to such citizens to Kill?definately NO!
CHIPESHAA & ZAMBIA WPAC
March 28, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Mwebe,
so where do gay right come from?
1 white
March 28, 2013 at 12:21 pm
“ “It degrades human dignity. It’s unnatural, and there is no question ever of allowing these people to behave worse than dogs and pigs. If DOGs and PIGS do not do it, why must human beings? We have our own culture, and we must re-dedicate ourselves to our traditional values that make us human beings. … What we are being persuaded to accept is sub-animal behavior and we will never allow it here. If you see people parading themselves as Lesbians and Gays, arrest them and hand them over to the police!”. mugabe robbert.
kakolwe
March 28, 2013 at 12:45 pm
Surely ubu ebushilu! Let me finish facilitating this workshop. I’ll coment later
bakulu ba nchito
March 28, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Jane Kalaba ni hule kabili
bakulu ba nchito
March 28, 2013 at 1:40 pm
Jane Kalaba ni hule kabili. bamunyenga ku matako
CHIPESHAA & ZAMBIA WPAC
March 28, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Hi Jane Kaluba,
1.Why then did your Mother marry your father?
2.Why didn’t you get married to your sister?
3.How many of your brothers and sisters are married to each other?
4. which of the women have you chosen to marry yourself?
I have a lot of questions for you but I think these should give you a guidance.
I love you mama please take care.0955839800
Janet c
March 28, 2013 at 2:26 pm
@ Chipesha & Zambia WPAC
I will answer your questions, if I may:
1.Why then did your Mother marry your father?
BECAUSE THEY CHOSE TO DO SO
2.Why didn’t you get married to your sister?
BECAUSE SHE CHOSE NO TO
3.How many of your brothers and sisters are married to each other?
WHAT HAS PEOPLE’S INDIVIDUAL CHOICE GOT TO DO WITH YOU
4. which of the women have you chosen to marry yourself?
AGAIN, AN INDIVIDUAL’S CHOICE IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
shoprite
March 28, 2013 at 2:40 pm
iwe ka janet,why do you oways make nonsense out of a sensible contribution.Youre just the same with jane,you can also do lesbian shows if theres money to be made,thus supporting nonsense!
Janet c
March 28, 2013 at 4:37 pm
and you shoprite – you can rape many girls if there is money to be made or beer to be drunk