Dear editor,
I would like to comment on the latest arrest of a gay activist by police, I don’t condemn the action by police as homosexuality is Illegal in Zambia, but lets face the facts,gays and lesbians are born like that,you cant change someones sexual choice, I am not gay, I’m happily married to a woman but I don’t support what most people in this country think of gays and lesbians, we have them in our families, churches, work places you name it, We will never get rid of these people, and the blame on the west is not true, I personally interviewed a few in Chelston are and I have come to believe that they are a lot, some get married to opposite sex for fear of embarrassment but they still enjoy same sex with their partners.
I know of female radio djs in Lusaka and copper-belt who are publicly lesbians though some got married to males but their marriages don’t last. According to scientific research women have more chances of falling in love with a fellow woman than than falling in love with a man.
Ask girls who have been in boarding school. Most of them have had a sexual relationship with a female,to them they don’t find it disgusting, its only when we think of men having sex with fellow men, also Zambia been a christian nation does not make it that every citizen has to follow Christianity. Some people don’t have to believe in God, Christianity is a personal decision so don’t bring the bible when trying to justify that because not every one is a believer.
Activist
April 9, 2013 at 1:15 pm
Well written – it’s funny how people are quick to point fingers overlooking their families and friends.
Janet c
April 9, 2013 at 1:25 pm
Fantastic – at least we have some people who think with their heads in Zambia (as opposed to those who write from emotion).
Gays and lesbians – like all sinning humans – are most welcome to live their lives freely in this country without fear of persecution.
I salute the writer of this article. Some of you your sons are gay – they fear coming out – next thing they will be raping young boys. Let’s stop this burying our heads in the sand – we all know the homosexuality that goes on in villages and all male and all female boarding schools, prisons, churches – the list is endless
Homophobic
April 9, 2013 at 1:28 pm
Who are these same gay Djs. Names please
Mudenda
April 9, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Well written but Zambia is a christian nation..Jesus left the bible 4 all christians 2 learn about him and he gave commandments…read jeremiah 33:1
Janet c
April 9, 2013 at 2:21 pm
@ Mudenda – remember that Zambia is also a democracy where ppl can freely express themselves.
because it is a Christian nation and a democracy at the same time, it means one is free not to follow christianity – right/wrong??? It means one can choose to be a muslim, Bhuddist, Hindu or atheist
Stigma
April 9, 2013 at 2:47 pm
and one can choose to ‘do’ you in the nose and you’ll accept, janet c? democracy?
Janet c
April 9, 2013 at 2:55 pm
If 2 consenting adults are involved, then YES
Stigma
April 9, 2013 at 3:08 pm
i like your inconsistency my dear. see how you shot down the lecturer-student relationship at fairview college. 2 adults indeed. if its wrong then it wrong anywhere.
Fault Finder
April 9, 2013 at 1:45 pm
The author should have first learned the meaning of the word ‘MOST’ before penning his/her opinion. We need facts, not lies. Gay-rights activists say it’s impossible to come up with facts but where did this author get them? Lies lies lies.
Deacon Bwalya - Lusaka
April 9, 2013 at 1:52 pm
This is getting out of hand. This is no subject worth discussion all way long. The spirit behind this is highly contegeous so please save the lives of the people who may be altimately turn into it because of this nonsense
xi
April 9, 2013 at 2:03 pm
What is a dj?
kalulete
April 9, 2013 at 2:15 pm
LAST DAYS HARD TO DEAL WITH
2 TIMOTHY 3 Vs 1- 5
ROMANS 1 Vs 20-26
Janet c
April 9, 2013 at 2:23 pm
These are NOT the last days – in the days of leprosy, syphillis, polio -ppl also thought it was ‘the last days’. I suggest you start embracing this wind of change that can not be stopped, even if you jail or kill gays now, you are only re-inforcing their will power. Viva gays and lesbians
Stigma
April 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm
the Bible is inspired by God. it says these are the last days. only a fool does not believe in the Bible and God. am sure you are one of them
Janet c
April 9, 2013 at 2:57 pm
@ Stigma – Zambia is a democracy. If one chooses not to believe in God, then they have the right to not be Christian….Christianity should not be force-fed to everyone.
Kaso-man
April 11, 2013 at 7:23 am
Uve not responded to the question Mulamu posed, shud we also allow pepo practicing bestiality and other unnatural acts? And tell the truth if these unnatural acts were there in the past especially our cultured country? Besides no one has ever explained hw a person comes 2 be like this, is it Biological or evil spirit?
mulamu
April 9, 2013 at 4:18 pm
@Janet c would you also support people getting involved in other un natural sexual practices such as sex with animals since its their free will?
911
April 9, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Atase chi Janet c, so u r also this useless?
As for u who are being pounded from yo anus jst wait untill faeces start droping from yo ass uncontrollably falling to the ground wherever u go.
Gay rights ifyabupuba. not in Zambia
Janet c
April 9, 2013 at 2:19 pm
@ 911 – remember that Jesus was once persecuted. Christians were once persecuted for believeing in God.
You can insult all you want, but this change is un-stoppable – mark my words. Besides, you live amongst adulterers, fornicators, alcoholics, gluttons and here you are persecuting others – SHAME on you. Supposing your own husband or son is actually gay, what will you do?
Stigma
April 9, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Psams 1 vs 1-2 says: “Happy is the man that has not walked in the counsel of the wicked ones, And in the way of sinners has not stood, And in the seat of ridiculers has not sat. But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And in his law he reads in
an undertone day and night”
i wud not want to get closer to such pipo for fear contamination. the closer we become to these pipo, the more tolerant we’ll become. it wil end up being normal to our society.
even without the Bible in place, we wud ve seen our pets of same sex trying to make love but it does not happen. why shod it happen to a superior being (and only in developed set-ups). there is nothing in Chavuma or chienge!
Janet c
April 9, 2013 at 3:06 pm
But Stigma – you are already in very close contact with gays!!!! Your workmates, your churchmates, your own relatives, maybe even your own son – some are gay, they are just scared to come out….why are you so backward kanshi!!!! Not everyone belives in God, so your quoting of scriptures is not relevant to this debate. The same God you quote – God loves ALL humans, and here you are claiming to be a devoted Christian but in the same sentence condemn fellow humans. I wonder if God would make such a statement about gays – I very much doubt it
Stigma
April 9, 2013 at 3:15 pm
i personally facilitated the dismissal of a gay chap from employment coz of similar activities. our organisation was well known for having 1 chap having sex with other men! he started indoctrinating his foolish behaviour in weaker vessels! he was fairly rich by zambian standard who cud afford 10 beers/day for 30 days non-stop! we fired the chap. no regrets
Timbwi
April 9, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Gays should be caged and through out the key. Please continue doing your acts in hiding just as thieves do so in secret. Can a thief ask for rights to be stealing? It is not right to encourage immorality or even debate about it. Imagine you are working in town and a chi gay chilekukumwa… Kuti na chitoba ekofi!
David
April 9, 2013 at 2:30 pm
in the last days,,,imorality shall increase….these are surely the lasty days!
Timbwi
April 9, 2013 at 2:30 pm
Gays should be caged. Please my advise is continue doing your gay acts in hiding just as thieves do so in secret. Can a thief ask for rights of stealing? It is not right to encourage immorality or even debate about it. Imagine you are working in town and a chi gay chilekukumbwa… Kuti na chitoba ekofi!
Raphael Ngosa
April 9, 2013 at 2:32 pm
The best answer lies in looking at nature. Core principle of nature is continuity which is only possible by the presence of male and female organs/s…….You will never see a bulldog screwing a bulldog and a hen screwing a hen. What about a lionness mating a lionness. Then why do humans who are considered to be in control seem to be enjoying laying his own sex? So looking at nature in its natural way is the answer to the pervertion we are seeing. Perverts need healing. Stop marketing perverts.
Flora
April 9, 2013 at 5:17 pm
you have no idea! Do your research.
Jean Claude Mufwanteni
April 9, 2013 at 2:56 pm
he who has not sinned be first to cast the stone……..these words were made famous by someone you like to call your lord and saviour, so tell me…….why do you call him Lord, Lord but do NOT the things he says????
ONETIME RELOADED
April 9, 2013 at 2:56 pm
ummm janet c..why supporting such discusting acts..r u one of them?!
clema
April 9, 2013 at 3:27 pm
ka janet c upuba tyala wait your time is coming.
Janet c
April 9, 2013 at 3:29 pm
@ Stigma – SHAME on you for discriminating and dismissing a colleague just because of who they are. I wish you could be sued for un-fair dismissal, then you will be taught a lesson you will never forget.
How about your own children -do you truly know their sexual orientation? If your son is gay, will you throw him out and dis-own him????? Food for thought – you are such a wicked person Stigma – to hate a fellow human like that
kalulumpunga
April 10, 2013 at 11:45 am
What makes you think everyone’s son, brother etc is infected with dogshit? ifyo fyamu family yobe!
hone fm
April 9, 2013 at 4:02 pm
the dj in question is former radio phoenix miles .mzamose zulu,who was once married to a uk based zambian guy,marriege of the belly..then another copperbelt based dj also a rastafarian like miles,2from unza radio 3 from here at hone,these are common lesbians and are in long relationships with females
CALLED WISE
April 9, 2013 at 4:05 pm
@ Raphael Ngosa, I CONQUER WITH YOU “brother”.
IT SO SAD TO SEE SOME PEOPLE STYMY THE NATURE.
ANIMALS AND INSECTS ARE WITH LESS INSTINCT BUT ALWAYS RESPECT THE LONG DEVINELY ESTABLISHED FLOWING OF NATURAL BEHAVIORS.
ANYWAY, THESE PEOPLE ARE AND HAVE BEEN AROUND IN OUR SOCIETY.
IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM, YOU ARE AMONG THEM AND THEY ARE DEFINITELY AROUND YOU.
YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THEM, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW YOU BUT WE ARE ALL IN THE ON-GOING TRAIN CALLED “LIFE” TILL THE LAST STATION.
CALLED WISE
April 9, 2013 at 4:08 pm
I MEAN DIVINELY…….NOT DEVINELY
SORRY!
olivia
April 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm
@hone fm…..we knew of ma miles can you please name the rest,its not a crime to name someone as gay or homosexual…..zambia is a democratic nation,meaning one can chose his or her fail,lets be honest how many people in zambia are truly christians?look at our pastors,all they do is enrich themselves,politicians who declared this country to be a christian nation were the ones stealing money and sleeping with other peoples wifes,lets bury the issue of christianity here cos not all do beleiev in God,
Gay Pride
April 9, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Make some Noise! It’s About Time!
Awesome article.
Mahongo
April 9, 2013 at 5:13 pm
I bet to differ with the assumption that is being made by the writer that gays are born like that. This not only misinformation but the worst distortion that can be. One thing that we should know is that humans are born sexual. that is the more reason why you have an erection on 1 week old baby. How ever what we do with that sexuality is learnt over time. This happens through our interaction with the things and people in our environment. This shape the kind of personality one will have in future. Our association or lack of association will lead us to behave in a particular way. If we are found among men and this urge catches up man will have alternatives.these include sodomising or masturbating. The more you do this the more accustomed you become and tend to prefer this. Any other orientation you will get you will find strange. This in itself is the pervasion in ones personality. This is a sickness which should be treated like any other pervasion. Such alcoholism, Paedophilia, Crematoria, and many other disorders. So to say we are born with it is wrong. It is acquired due to lack in the other.
big mose
April 9, 2013 at 5:21 pm
utuma dj nato kanshi ni yakumbuyo!ok
time wasters
April 9, 2013 at 5:22 pm
we should start caging husbands that likes to be used as toilets or slaves
chintofwa
April 9, 2013 at 5:43 pm
we knew of late radio phoenix dj mumba sikumba was a lesbian,not only was she a lesbian but she came out and suppoted it openly,we had dj miles mzamose zulu also of radio phoenix and unza radio,thou she was married but she is a known lesbian at her days at unza radio and radio phonix,then another current male dj also of phonix,he is bisexual as he takes both men and women,we have a few at hone fm and one rastafrian at another copperbelt based private radio,but many hide but are seen at some famouse places at arcades with thier ‘boyfriends’ or ‘girlfriends’we all know them
Ba game
April 9, 2013 at 6:01 pm
Bafikala u’r evn busy aguing ifyabupuba mulekwatako nensoni bamusataninenu.
TNP
April 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm
The 1 wrote this article mwana wakwa satana
k t ktkt
April 9, 2013 at 7:40 pm
panyo pako author
mafia
April 9, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Lets get our guns.360degrees in a gays chest.
mafia
April 9, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Show me a gay guy and i will show you how i use my gun.
joe king
April 9, 2013 at 10:09 pm
homosexuality is a genetic defect that happens at conception. 90% of gays have no control over their sexual orientation. very few learn it thru socialisation (diferencial association) you can rape a lesbian 100 times but it wont change her sexual orientation. i feel for those guys coz they cant appreciate sex as all of us who are straight do. these people are sick the best you can do is to pray for them and not demonise them. even your precious daughter may just turn out to be lesbian and you cant do anything to change it.
kt kt kt
April 9, 2013 at 10:27 pm
mafia am with u 123%. man.my gun ready man,who b gaying around my hood gon get the bullet man.
N.D
April 9, 2013 at 11:15 pm
ITS POINTLESS TO EVEN START TALKING ABOUT GAYSM IN ZAMBIA.LET UPHOLD THE SAME STANDARDS HIS MAJESTY GOD MADE US WITH.GOD MADE US IN HIS OWN IMAGE,IF AT ALL WE ALLOW GAYSM DO WE STILL POSSESS THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS OF GODLINESS OF HIS OWN IMAGE?THATS WHY HE CREATED MAN AND WOMAN SISTER JANE C.IF YOUR PRODUCERS WERE LESBIANS OR GAY COULD YOU HAVE BEEN BORN?HUMAN RIGHTS AND DEMOCRACY CAN NOT STAND BEFORE GOD.
prince
April 10, 2013 at 12:24 am
Foolish jean C! Go nd ask yo father wat he did b4 u came n stat sliping wit ada gels!! How did yo parents bring u up? O meb yo father used to do dat wit his workmets o yo mom wit ha neighbours? Are u nomo? O u a muslem? My dear no wat u want in lyf! Not sliping wit fellow gels! WHERE do u put GOD n yo lyf?
wuzzygenius
April 10, 2013 at 1:03 am
I think they is just somthing wrong with people who do gay / lesbians and those who support it .
Shogun
April 10, 2013 at 7:53 am
Interesting and open minded article. Imposing one’s morality on others is not not only not a productive exercise but can be very divisive.
SEKOPONOKE
April 10, 2013 at 8:21 am
We re all doomed. Earth is a filthy place to stay with these so called human rights advocating evil vices like homosexuality. No human being is born a gay, a thief a murder its is what we see around us that build up our morals or corrupt them..
ichipondo
April 10, 2013 at 3:29 pm
indeed Christianity is Zambia but not all Zambians are christian.the some bible says God gave men a free will…
em only wise
April 10, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Lyf is hw u mak it. bcoz its about long u wil liv.Now hw about b4 we wer born wat wer we?”little is told” but wat about lyf afta death? Bane regadless of wat u blive in God is ther, so if u r nt preparing 4 that de , we r told in HELL the’ll b no sinning again but further punishment 4 the ****** things lyk Gaysim wich r nt beneficial at all, prostitute brings about a child wich is a blessin. Nt very far 4rm nw we’ll all die then u will regeat havin lived on earth. REPENT REPENT……
em only wise
April 10, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Lyf is hw u mak it. bcoz its about hw long u wil liv.Now hw about b4 we wer born wat wer we?”little is told” but wat about lyf afta death? Bane regadless of wat u blive in God is ther, so if u r nt preparing 4 that de , we r told in HELL the’ll b no sinning again but further punishment 4 the ****** things lyk Gaysim wich r nt beneficial at all,imagin that prostitutes brings about a child wich is a blessin bt the’ll stil b purnished. Nt very far 4rm nw we’ll all die then u will regeat havin lived on earth. REPENT REPENT……
Mafking Tembo
April 10, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Nigger please.Do not for one second even justify being gay because it is not even right in every sector of society.Mention to me which religion tolerates homosexuality even one please i am begging you too.
Homosexuality is not right and we should condemn it at all costs.Its a disgusting and evil act period.
Do not tell me our Gods of which ever religion are looking doing on all this evil and smiling.