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Most Foreign CEO’s In Zambia Get Not Less Than US$35,000 But Why Crucify Prof. Chirwa??
Dear Editor,
Hide my name,
I work for an international mining company and i have ideas of how much the people brought into Zambia as expatriates get as salaries. US$20,000 (KR 110,000) is for the low guys such as accountants. Foreign GMs get more than US35,000. This very real for those of you who may be ignorant.
I totally support Chirwa when he says that salary is within the range of what is prevailing world wide for similar positions.
We have to always remember that for each county to develop, it has to make its own millionaires and THATS THE REASON WHY SATA GRABBED ZRL, ZAMTEL and etc so that we start also getting empowered with high salaries (off course only where we work hard and results are seen).
I know for sure that the CEO for ZAMTEL could be getting a salary within that same range. Why no talk? we know for sure that most of the executives in Zambia are getting not less than US$15,000.
Let Chirwa get that much, he is setting a good prescedence for me a young man to come and get a good salary provided i deliver and the results are seen.
THE COUNTRY CAN ONLY GO FORWARD IF IT MAKES ITS HOME GROWN MILLIONAIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Concerned Zambian Citizen
Posted by
Coin Age
April 24, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Sense
boastful Banda
April 24, 2013 at 2:56 pm
mulibapuba!
cs
April 24, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Ba Banda have you ever worked in big company’s and see how much these top guys get as there pay? If Zambians are sincere, they should protest against all CEO`s who get close or above what Chirwa was offered.
MMD Cadre
April 25, 2013 at 8:43 am
CS, please understand that working as CEO for a mining company is very different from working for a company like ZRL. Chirwa should not be compared to those CEOs in mining companies because mines make huge profits while ZRL is just being rehabilitated. That is why Chirwa was told to sacrifice because he was taking over the running of a company in ICU.
Nyengist
April 25, 2013 at 11:10 am
My thoughts exactly! ZRL is not making any money at all,so where do you expect the money to pay the Chirwas and the board those huge salaries?let them work first and they will reap later! If they do not want,leave so that people who are ready to sacrifice can do the job,simple!
mukombe
April 24, 2013 at 2:54 pm
With ZRL its borrowed money that is the difference.
boastful Banda
April 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
no one is saying he shouldnt get that much; at the moment ZR is not making any profits and we all expected him to work towards that and not to start making unnecessary demands…until ZR starts putting something on the table,only then can he make such demands. Gives us examples of CEO’s earning that much in a waking up organisation?..
ndolaman
April 24, 2013 at 3:03 pm
The problem our country has is the culture of poverty. People are so used to little money being poor. Big money/salary is beyond there imagination. Its unacceptable for a fellow Zambia to get or have a lot of money. That’s why any successful Zambian business man is accused of Satanism. Zambian rejoice when a person fails in live the hate success. Prof Chirwa is a success and there are not more than 20 Zambians who are really successful out of a population of over 12m.
Mukuka
April 24, 2013 at 3:04 pm
How much is Renard getting and what results are we getting? Just because his white? Let him claim that so that he starts working towards his salary. If he fails then we will have all the reasons to fire him. I love his negotiating tools. He doesnt run cheap and cheap is expensive….. Bravo Chirwa
Sparks Chimbwendembwende
April 24, 2013 at 3:09 pm
The problem I have with this Chirwa of yours demanding so much is that the money will come from my pocket to pay this thief!!! I am not prepared to see my hard erned money go to him when he was not there when we were fighting for “Buntungwa”. The chap was an economical refugee!!!! I educated him when his “ZHOPA” was freezing in Moscow!!!
Ndoleshafya
April 24, 2013 at 3:13 pm
You should understand the difference between a PRIVATE company and a PARASTATAL/PUBLIC organisation.
cs
April 25, 2013 at 7:21 am
Is Zesco a private company? How much does the MD get?
shibobo
April 24, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Chirwa is a 21st century reality.those board members are recycled unexposed local minds who could not compete with an exposed mind.
The pull him down syndrome and political interferance is rife in Zambia.
Clive just be patient and prove your critics wrong.
isaac
April 24, 2013 at 3:22 pm
They say one has to waste money to money. Prof. is just within range what we want is beauty of the railway line to reach the world standard.
real bufalo
April 24, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Zambians, that money is ‘KALOBA’ MONEY from some people in Europe which us and childred will sweat to pay back and you want chirwa to wallop it and generations to come to pay for that chirwa. moroever, ZL is no profit org and every soon, they will be lobbying for more money to pay for their retirees just like Kafue nitrogen chemicals. wake up Zambians!
amen
April 24, 2013 at 3:51 pm
Chirwa is the man. Ceo wa ku zesco hw much does he get paid ? More than chirwas. We love u chirwa
MMD Cadre
April 25, 2013 at 8:46 am
ZESCO make profits
Pamputi
April 24, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Iwe chi-colour, did u knw hw much interest Zed is paying every yr in Euro-bond? $20 mil!!
The nxt generation of workers r the ones who’ll finish paying tht ****** bond using (using tax-payers’, or your, MULA!!)
OSMORE
April 24, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Indeed y crucify him? Mr Sata know that ,this is a direct attack on you in order 2 frustrate your programmes. Let us know what every ceo is getting in Zambia .lt is a nosensical thing to have come from useless Prof Saasa.Jearous as u do it pa Unza.
OSMORE
April 24, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Zambians u are sick no matter how educated u maybe. let us know what Chitundu gets at zesco. Mr Sata,b carefull with even some pipo in yo circles. We have transporters who want de status co,and just those possesed with jearous.BECAREFUL SIR.
OSMORE
April 24, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Mr President on the other hand u have the opo who want u to fail so that they capitalize on that politically. lt is sad how the educated and rich tremple on the poor. kk gave them free education so that they could come & do even better than him.SAD.
economist!
April 24, 2013 at 4:30 pm
I rilly do wonder how my fellow zambians reason n think this shallow.1. How do u support a man to get 25% of ZRL after hz contract of 5yrz. That is jst too much shares to a single person. 2. Look at the state of ZR nw, how much Revenue do they generate for them to afford to pay a salary of that amout to Prof Chirwa?? All the money they have now is borrowed (eurobond) it is money that needs to be used wisely or risk havn atha industries to suffer when helping paying back if the money is all used up on Clives salary and bonuses! ZRL can not afford him hence the need to offload chirwa! How do u xpect a firm to operate when its Total costs are way higher than its Revenue! Lord help us and grant us (zambians) with wisdom
boastful Banda
April 25, 2013 at 10:54 am
SENSE…
Anesutose
April 24, 2013 at 4:31 pm
First, i doubt the sicerity of a board member who goes to the media to discuss the salary of another professional. I sense something is wrong. For those of you saying the salary is too high, kindly check how much the ZRA and Bank of Zambia CEO are getting. Lastly i think Clive was seriious about remodelling ZR.. Problem is Zambia is not ready for that change. By the way, can Sasa reveal his pay to the public so we compare.
chakwera ndeketeya
April 24, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Iwee!!no board member went to the media to diacuss kirwas salary,kirwa was the one who first went to the media claiming he differed with the board because he refused to pay them allowances.The board was just trying to set the record straight.
OSMORE
April 24, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Why didn’t yo useless board voice out long b4 ? lt was swangwapo but they met deir met. @Economic w’atever u re. U’re 1 of de shalow Zambians dat ve this country poor .Educated imbicile. ls that much and was itn’t just a matter of bagaining ?
chakwera ndeketeya
April 24, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Did you follow the press conference by the board!!They were voicing all these concerned through correspondence to the minister and ZRL management (which is the correct channel ofcoarse not the media]until they reached a stage were they suspended kirwa weeks before kirwa went to the media.
osmore
April 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Why should yo board demand to be paid kr 500 000 PER meeting and u are talking of 28 of them within a space of 4 months.ls that normal? Stop jearous . These from the opo can’t even b sencere.Everything is wrong. Enermies of the country.
Moscow
April 24, 2013 at 5:37 pm
useless board members.wanna frustrate the enginners.Atase tuma lawyer twa coruption
kakolwe
April 24, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Let me temporarily fall to yo levels: You employ a new graduate to teach in an underperforming school. Do you pay him peanuts until U start seeing results. Mwetupuba mwe Pay Chirwa & let him work!
Bugazi
April 24, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Chirwa is dull, the problem being a professor does not mean one is a Genious. He just a specialist at a single part, now he got out of the Lab and found the outside where you need to be balanced to understand all. The Terms Management and Corporate Governance just proved Ba Prof needs get a lot of ON Line Tutorials. He failed to be a Team player just let the chap be a Consultant and let him Stay in Euro. Timely warning to you Guys who want to come pa Zed braging your ka Midnight school qualifications from Zungaland thinking pipo will just have to respect you. Respect is Earned and observe humility, drive lessons from this poor soul Chirwa.
cs
April 25, 2013 at 7:25 am
I think you have not read Chirwas CV that Boston University published. You will surely see that he is not a specialised in one field only.
Abena PJ
April 24, 2013 at 10:10 pm
They say people who belitle others are indirectly exposing their own inadequacies, dullness, envy, backwardness, stupidity and what have you. they do so to make themselves feel important. The same goes for all those chritcizing prof Chirwa. They cannot see themselves achieving what he has achieved and the best way to make themselves feel better is to chritisise. Such people hit the grave early with hate and jelousy.
sulu
April 25, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Bull shit wena
kakolwe
April 24, 2013 at 10:38 pm
Spot on abena PJ!! And what makes these loonies think that Clive is not an tax payer? Leave Rev. Kapya to just talk. Talipilamo na tax
Hakainde Inde
April 24, 2013 at 10:38 pm
I have no quarrel with his salary but his hiring of his family business for ZR is corruption Echichitima lubono lwetu
pawpaw
April 25, 2013 at 9:03 am
He did not hire but proposed to hire and this was shot down by the board, so why should this be an issue now.
jocylyne
April 24, 2013 at 11:02 pm
I now know why ZRL wants $1 Billion, Chirwa must have calculated that him alone needs $2,976,000 after 5 years (assuming he doesn’t get any increment). Honestly, how much does ZRL need to make in profit terms to sustain this level of overhead for only one person before we can even talk about other employees, overheads and paying back the debt?
The One
April 25, 2013 at 7:58 am
That’s a poor company that’s were the problem comes from
pawpaw
April 25, 2013 at 9:06 am
It doesnt matter whether it is a poor company, Proff knows his value.
sulu
April 25, 2013 at 3:33 pm
what value naimwe. people with value peform then ask for big pay cheques and not demanding huge funds from a company running on borrowed funds.Learn from great CEOs like Steeve Jobs.
Rupiah
April 25, 2013 at 9:25 am
The problem was THAT SASSA WAS JEALOUS OF CHIRWA COZ HE HAS NEVER EVEN SEEN THAT KIND OF MONEY IN HIS LIFE and he was busy comparing himself with Chirwa. Thats why they were holding many board meeting so they can milk the cow as well – all out of jealous.
Maikalange
April 25, 2013 at 9:49 am
So what happens when we start giving 25 % shares to CEO s for each contract served for the next 20 years, are we going to be left with anything? Greedy Mambala. Build your own personal rail line
kc
April 25, 2013 at 12:49 pm
The board/people fighting Prof Clive Chirwa are simply being used by the elite business tycoons in the transport
sector. What this means is that, onced the morden rail system is fully implemented they would be a sharp colapse of
of business in the transport sector. Transportation of Oil, Minerals, food products, humans and in general
import and export will all be left with the new TAZARA.
The advantage of revamping this sector is that, it will definately reduce the cost of doing business. For instance,
Lumwana mine will be able to export its minirals direct from solwezi to either Tanzania or
South african sea ports. A farmer in zambia regardless of where are, will be able to sale their maize in time without
waiting for time waisting trucks to carry their produce. The other benefit is that our roads shall be spared from
unnecessary damages on which the government spend billions on repair works.
Then the salary for prof Chirwa is just okay compared to the benefits that poor zambians shall get even our countries economy as a whole.
The 25% demanded is a bit on the higher side but its a good idea, am sure those in business will understand.
In conclution, Chirwa is fighting big forces beyond his complehension. i just pray that his excellency the president helps him through.
As we all know, is the Man of Action.
Regards
sulu
April 25, 2013 at 3:28 pm
you nincompoop. ZRL is a struggling company that has been brutally raped by foreign investors over the past years !!!!!!. the company does not have any major money spinning products at the moment and are simply running on savings from some well placed inherited assets from Cecil Rhodes! You cannot surely compare it to a large mining firm with a a turn over of over 500 million-1 billion USD. that’s just ridiculous and defies the rules of bench marking!!!!!! what ZRL needs right now are people willing to sacrifice to get the firm up and running before they can start ripping huge benefits like big pay checks. Learn from the late Steve Jobs. The man worked a year for a dollar till Apple was back on its feet. Am not saying Clive should get paid a dollar but surely can we please see some effort to bring the company back to life with a little sacrifice!!!!!!!
YOBE
April 25, 2013 at 3:36 pm
There is nothing wrong with prof chirwa salary,provided he is able to deliver,make zambia railways viable and profitable entity.Education should pay with in accordance with skills and expertise,so chirwa is right to demand that much.What is just wrong,if at all he is involved in corrupt activities.
Elijah
April 25, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Two points to note here:
1. Prof Chirwa is a fake, he was taking ZR nowhere.
2. The monthly turnover of ZR is less than $35,000
Thankyou