Well, in the last few years, the prophet has become notorious for prophecies related to politicians or football (what Americans call “soccer”). The internet is awash with news items claiming that “sources” have told them that the prophet has predicted the death of a president or the final score sheet of a pending football match. Hence, in the streets of Africa, TB Joshua has become the latest wonder-boy. Everyone is talking about him.
For instance, “sources” said that TB Joshua predicted that the Zambian national football team would lift the prestigious AFCON Cup early this year. In fact, the “sources” also said he predicted Didier Drogba’s heart-rending penalty miss—which could have buried the hopes of the entire nation of Zambia. So, even if you did not know TB Joshua prior to Zambia’s recent win, his name was added to our staple diet from that point onwards.
Being a pastor in Africa, I have been asked again and again by people in the streets what I make of all this. Thankfully, my own church members know better. However, I engage in a lot of one-on-one and door-to-door evangelism, and this is one of those questions I get asked very often. It is obvious that TB Joshua and his predictions are on the minds of many Zambians (and Africans). Let me make just two comments about all this.
Unverified Claims
The first comment I want to make is that many of the stories doing their rounds about TB Joshua’s feats amount to fictitious stories that are unverified. They get passed on from one hearer to another and grow larger and larger until they become “real”. They can best be included in the folklores that made up so much of African traditional stories, like the stories of the beautiful women that once used to walk dry out of the river at full moon to mesmerise village men and disappear back into the water!
It is the same with the prophecy of Chelsea winning the Champions League Cup. I have searched the Internet looking for a clip where TB Joshua is saying in clear words that Chelsea would win the Cup but all I have found are statements that “sources” have said it. Here is a man who runs a TV network for 24 hours a day, and yet the one piece of information that is the hype of today cannot be found! In fact, what I seem to find are statements made just before the match claiming that he did not say anything of the kind. Perhaps someone can send me a YouTube link where he said it—and said it clearly.
I am reminded of the many claims to healings that are made by “anointed” Charismatic preachers. Every week, there are tens of thousands of miracle services conducted across the country and the continent. When I say that these are just publicity and fundraising gimmicks, sincere Christians are often horrified at my saying so. When I then ask them to give me the name and address of one person whom they know who was once blind but now sees, or was a cripple (on a wheelchair or on crutches) who now walks, or was deaf and dumb but now speaks, they suddenly sober up and admit that they do not know anyone. “Sources” have told them of many people who have been healed.
I once participated in a live radio programme on the subject of miraculous healing. There were two other participants—a Roman Catholic Priest and a Charismatic pastor. I made it clear that the claims being made by “anointed” Charismatic preachers were false. The Roman Catholic priest was neither here nor there, but the Charismatic pastor insisted that these miracles were happening everywhere everyday. He even lost his temper over my claims. In order to prove my contention, I asked on the live radio programme that anyone who had been blind, deaf, dumb, or crippled and had now been healed should phone it. Like Elijah of old, I kept asking for a solid two hours. We got a lot of phone calls arguing for or against claims of miraculous healing, but not a single person called to testify that they themselves had been miraculously healed—for two solid hours. The Charismatic pastor finally commented, “Perhaps they are just shy!”
Demonic Predictions
My second comment is that there is such a thing as demonic predictions. So, we should never conclude that persons who can foretell events are de facto God’s anointed servants; which is the extrapolation I seem to be hearing about “Prophet” TB Joshua.
Perhaps the clearest example of a person who had such demonic powers in the New Testament is found in Acts 16. The Bible says, “As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. She followed Paul and us, crying out, ‘These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation.’ And this she kept doing for many days. Paul, having become greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, ‘I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.’ And it came out that very hour. But when her owners saw that their hope of gain was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace before the rulers” (Acts 16:16-19).
Fortune-telling abilities have been with mankind for a very long time. They are a form of prophecy because they foretell the future, but they are not from God. In fact, in the Old Testament, God commanded that fortune-tellers must be stoned (Exodus 22:18). God expressly forbade enquiring from them about the unknown (Lev.19:31, Deut. 18:14).
So, how can one know if a self-proclaimed prophet today is from God? (My confessional position is that the extra-ordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit—including prophecy—ceased long ago. However, since this is not the confessional standard of many readers of this blog, I will use another argument). God’s test, given to the people of Israel in the Old Testament, was based on the prophet’s teaching about God himself and his way of salvation. If the prophet’s predictions were true but his teaching was heretical, it meant that God was testing the people to see if they were really committed to him (Deut. 13:1-3). In other words, is “Prophet” TB Joshua preaching the true gospel of salvation?
Here is something else worth noticing. In the Bible, prophets were prophesying about future events related to the consequences of the obedience or disobedience of God’s people. The prophecies were, therefore, meant to bring God’s people back to himself in repentance and faith, or to encourage them to remain faithful to God in dark times. They were not simply telling football teams whether they would win or lose a football match. Imagine Elijah, or Isaiah, or Jeremiah, or Daniel telling us who was to win some match in the great games of their day. Come on; give me a break! That is totally preposterous!
Culled from Pastor Mbewes Blog
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To all those trying to sympathazise/lin on/coperate/reason with………am sure you are all sick in your heads and need medical attention…for you do not no wat u re doin.
well you knows and are not sick enlighten us
well you who knows and are not sick enlighten us
Conrad Mbewe ur a Satanist…just shut your Mouth and pray for a spiritual gift, Mbewe Ndiwe Mbutuma
1.T.B. Joshua announced publicly during a live broadcast that he stopped prophesying about football.
2. If T.B. Joshua is a false prophet, GOD will expose him, so why fight it?
3. It is impossible for anyone who believes that healing, prophecies, etc have ceased to take T.B. Joshua seriously, so little wonder that you get an article of this kind.
4. It is very easy for anyone who takes a stand like this to fall into spiritual pride.
5. I watch Emmanuel TV live broadcasts on Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays and I know that he never said anything about the English premier league, at least since he declared that he will no longer be talking about football.
5.I watched a live broadcast when Joshua prophesied that Zambia would win the Africa cup; I didn’t get it from another “source”.
6. Let God judge T.B. Joshua, NOT MAN!
Amen
I VE WITNESSD PSTRS LIKE MBEWE LET ALONE BISHOPS MANIFESTING DEMONS
AND URTERLLY REPENTING AFTER DRAGGING TBJ IN THE MUD. ITS NOT TOO LATE TO REPENT PSTR.Jellousy and Envy are fruits of the Enemy!!Join hands wth TBJ and Scatter the Enemy to the Mountains!!!!!!
Conrad Mbewe ni koswe. His doctrine is strange. Ati God has stopped healing now? Read Kathrine Kulman books. How can you base your arguments on ”Hearsay” and then bash your fellow man of God (If you are still one and not a backslider Son of the devil who has failed to cast out demons who are your relatives-hence the claim the era of miracles has CEASED! Koswe iwe!
No wonder your tuma radio shows have stopped and you have no following.
Jesus is Lord!!!
Another very serious piece of advice: Joshua has on many occasions talked about events that would happen and has asked people to pray. He has also admonished people to repent. Surely, preaching repentance is not a monopoly of those who believe(think) that gifts of the Spirit have ceased! If GOD is the same yesterday, today and forever, WHY would anyone think that gifts of the Spirit have ceased? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!
PIPO TOURCH NOT MY ANNOINTED ONCE AND DO NO HARM UNTO THEM SAYS THE LORD
“South Africa to mourn a hero. They should pray for former South African president Dr Nelson Mandela and Arc-Bishop Desmond Tutu.”
I got the above statement from Johnson Suleiman. That man who came to Woodlands Stadium in 2011. Here is a prophecy that has come to pass.
Another one by Suleiman is this: . “Nollywood will keep losing people unless prayers are made and repentance; Many have gone fetish and there is high rate of immorality. I see three major stars dying this year unless prayers are made.”
This has come to pass, hasn’t it?
@Noel.jr, just because you are a blind follower doesn’t mean we shud all be like u. Pastor Mbewe has raised pertinent issues & has quoted scriptures to buttress his argument. Even Paul’s teachings were put to the test by the Bereans ( Acts 17 vs 10-12. u shud know this if u ever read the Bible than spending all yo time worshipping yo master TBJ). Thank God, some of us take time to read the Bible & ask the Holy Spirit to help us understand.
Which Bible (which version) has told you that gifts of the Spirit have ceased? Are you also not hero-worshipping Conrad?
TB Joshua is a man of God period.
Jesus is lord.
The Holy Spirit teaches and not Pastor Mbewe. Keep watching Emmanuel tv.
If Paul got annoyed and the fortune teller girl was delivered, get annoyed also, go to Nigeria and deliver T.B Joshua. To me you are just misquoting the Word of God and you are out of context. You will be delivered instead I can assure you.
There numbers that are on Emmanuel TV channel screen you can phone or email them to ask them to give you the address of people that have been prayed for and delivered by God using T.B Joshua. Better still you can Google and get all what you need to get, even the miracles you are talking about or that which you are not sure.
Sons and Daughters are blindfolded even the DEVIL HILLS and can tell fortunes, we should open our eyes and see mwebantu. Yes you are right only GOD judge but human being has been empowered by God to teach and warn people of GOD’S wrongs and righteous ways.
All of you addressing Mbewe as pastor need to rethink. This man uses the karmasutra not the bible to teach his heresy! The working of the holy ghost ended!!!!! Weshilu iwe!
All liars will not enter the kingdom of God.
You are a liar.
some of you are just fanatics with no brains to think for yourselves………….salvation should be preached….you are so blind that you equally follow a blind prophet
Christianity is a relationship and what you are able to do in the Lord is based on your capacity to believe which determines your capacity to receive from God.If God is not able to perform miracles through someone in the name of Jesus Christ,it does not mean that God cannot use another person.Please lets work on our relationship with God as opposed to criticising men of God who have developed that relationship.
4giv pastor mbewe abaku chipata efyo baba balipena nokufulungana eg rupia banda dora william banda so naba mbewe chimochine
Mr Mbewe not pastor Mbewe you are an evil man and shut up, remember when the disciples were preaching the gospel in those day they were srested and taken to the rulers. What did the rulers said? They said let them be if it has come from God it will be continue but if it has come from man it will stop itself. So Mr Mbewe judgment is for God him self alone not a man.
Be warned……………..
Pastor Mbewe is right to say TB what he prophecy is not always from GOD.TB is a false annointed one in the endtimes.His message does not lead people to repentance.
Who knows the mind of God ?
Its amazing that most of the above comments have no scripture challenge to what Pastor Mbewe commented, just angry comments 2Timothy4:1-4
Is Joshua the man of God?
(a)awe
(b)false
(c)boza
(d)All of the above
Mbewe you are a failed pastor; you are a falire.
How do you define failure?
What has he failed in?
Mathew chapter 14, jesus talked of earthquakes, famine n wars as things tht wil symbolise th last days bt stil went on to say “..and many false prophets shall rise n prophesy in my name,stil do not follow”
Not to put judgemnt on any one,isiah, Daniel,paul n all other prophets prophecied about issuess tht had an influece on one’s life then n still now bt a prophecy tht has no direction towards chritian influece apart frm it being a miraculous predicion about wolrdly activities tht have drown maltitudes of pepole leaves u thinking..th bible says narrow is th road tht leads to everlasting life..nway its up to each one of us to choose.
Its sad to see how pipo can be deceived. JB Joshua is a false prophet, period !
True jesus knew tht for him to say many false prophets shal rise bt dnt follw, he knew tht these prophets wil b able to peform miracles tht will hav th impact of convincing pipo tht they are frm God, this cn only harpen wen such miracles ar harpening..so its true tht one these dsys cn perform miracles bt with ehose power? Dnt undetstnd y pipo ar stil claiming tht mr or pastr mbewe z mad.
Baane quote from th bible. Noti ifyamumutwe ukwabula icipingo..we need evidence.
Let us Seek God in prayer and He will definitely show us the truth.
Thankful for the ministry of Pastor Conrad Mbewe who seeks to be faithful to the word of God, I would advise anyone who thinks otherwise to listen to this man of God, to spend time in the scriptures and to pray to God for clarity and discernment.
@Harrison & all in favour of Pastor Mbewe’s article,
Thanks for noticing that all those in favour of TBJ are failing to intelligently quote scripture! They are just reacting emotionally- cursing, insulting, u name it. Are these the fruits of the Holy Spirit?
Good question that demands an answer
I pity all who have used insults on this site in answer to pastor Mbewe the man of God. It means they can not think of anything that can stand as an argument to counter pastor Mbewe’s position. They can only insult as a result.Surely pastor Mbewe must be right
I always enjoy pastor Mbewe’s sermons on “sermon audio.com”. If you want to listen to life saving and transforming messages that is the place to go to. I have never regretted. Hope it will not be a case of giving pearls to dogs or pigs as the scriptures put it
…. Discernment or “Judging” Is One Of The Gifts of The Holy Spirit In speaking of the “diversities of gifts” given by the Holy Spirit, Paul says
and to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another the interpretation of tongues: [1 Corinthians 12:10]
The Greek word translated into the English discerning is “diakrisis”, which is derived from another Greek word diakrino.
Strong’s Hebrew and Greek lexicon defines diakrino as… to separate thoroughly, discern, doubt, judge.
Additionally, diakrino is made up of two other Greek words…dia which means through, by reason of, and krino which means distinguish, judge, determine.
In other words, one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is the ability to judge or determine between two things as to which is right and which is wrong. Therefore “discernment of spirits” involves being able to distinguish between people or practices that serve the cause of Christ, and those that serve other spirits.
While criticism, which is borne out of hypocrisy, has been shown to be condemned by Christ, there is another side to criticism. In fact the English word criticism also comes from the Greek word krino (above)
Far from being wrong, judgment is actually a vital part of the Christian arsenal of defensive weapons, which will prevent people from being “tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting” (Ephesians 4:14). The kind of judgment which protects God’s people by advising them of danger and outright falsehood is an absolute necessity.
Truth is independent of opinion,by its definition, truth is intolerent of error & evry aspect petitoning the concience 4acknowledgement. the individual hweva, holds da key 2admission or rejection.
furtha error is 99% correct. when 1stresses out da truth has not judged, plz go2da dictionery and difrentiate da2. rememba satan cn heal en perform mirracles 2. bt da healing frm GOD hs no questions, da opozt is temporary&questionabo.Bt do nt turn away yo ears frm da truth 4 fables (2Tim4:4).
Its amazing how the majority are reacting to this! If you think that Pastor Mbewe is not right…please address the issues he has raised in a rational and mature manner, prove from the scriptures that what he has written is wrong. That is all that is required!!!Stop insulting and being emotional. For most of the so called men of God just manipulate your emotions to gain their support.At the end of the day…lets use scripture to state our positions…sadly this is not the case here
I wonder why believers want to put satan ar the centre and start to value him, the church belongs to Jesus, no room to give place to satan,
No one knows the mind of God but the HolySpirit .no one says Jesus is Lord but by the holy Spirit , they said he is cast out demons by belzabab , but Jesus said any one blasphems againist the son of man can be forgiven ,but not againist the holy Spirit
All I see is emotional ranting and useless talk about Pastor Mbewe. majority of you are taking time to think and before you respond biblically.
Look at the way people have responded in insults and in some case claiming to be representing the Holy Spirit.Well firstly that means they are not filled with the Spirit and are not knowledgeable of the scriptures.Pastor Mbewe has used scripture to prove his point,why can’t people respond in similar ways.
All of you here who have insulted must repent for you have sinned and acted in a non christian way,unless you are not born again,and if that’s the case the please do not comment on spiritual things you do not understand,free advice,but if you are christian repent!!!!!!!!
Mans thoughts are far away from Gods thoughts John said we saw one man casting out demons in your name Lord they told Jesus and wanted to stop him, because he doesnt follow us , jesus said
May I be educated which scripture in the bible says miracles have ended and are therefore for the past?
Bravo Pastor Mbewe! It is indeed gratifying to note that Zambia has still got real men who can seperate the imaginary world from the real world. How can we develop our country when pipo believe in things which doesn’t exist? People need to respect the truth and respect science (research).It is not the question of being religious but rather being able to use your brains.
2Timothy2:23-24,Paul advices Timothy not to cause controvices,and that he shouldnt strive as a servant of God,who doesnt know that zambians are spiritual, anything thing that brings hatred and confusion among Gods people is not of God,why bring it up is it about who is the greatest, surely it is canality
2 Timothy 4:1-5
” In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.”
For all of you who speak so harshly of Pastor Mbewe, think about what make you so upset. Is he really being envious and prideful, or is he genuinely addressing a problem that has plagued our society and confused the Christians. Remember that God said in 2 Peter 2:1 “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.”
Open you bibles people and stop being deceived!!!
Take Heart Pastor Mbewe and continue to Fight the Good Fight. 1 Timothy 6. Grace and Peace
Kanshi where are my comments ba Tumfweko
I ll respect your opinion and wait to watch you get delivered at SCOAN. You re not the first to say this so am not shocked.