MMD vice-president for politics Michael Kaingu says the party’s leader Nevers Mumba cannot win the 2016 presidential election because he is surrounded by political failures like his spokesperson Muhabi Lungu.
But Lungu says Kaingu is a liar, who, together with Dora Siliya and Lucky Mulusa, is behind the crusade to undermine Mumba’s leadership of the MMD.
Kaingu told Joy FM in an interview aired yesterday on the station’s Tikambilane programme, that Mumba was not only a failed leader, but was also surrounded by people like Lungu, Scorpion Kadobi and Bowman Lusambo, who could not help him get to State House.
“If we allow president Mumba to continue, that definitely will be the end of MMD,” Kaingu said. “The president that we have, he is just at his home, making press statements. He is not a team leader.”
He said Mumba was busy flushing out of the party quality leaders such as Catherine Namugala and Maj Richard Kachingwe.
“We are seeing a president who is vindictive, we are seeing a president who is not interactive. That in itself is dangerous for the party,” Kaingu said. “A leader shouldn’t be very far from his people.”
Kaingu said being Mumba’s right-hand man, he had, to no avail, cautioned him against using unrecognised party structures such as Lusambo’s ‘Die-Hard’.
“You see, this president even plots against his own people,” he said.
Kaingu said they told Mumba that a time would come when party leaders like him would not stomach the insults that the people within the illegal party structures he was using were directing at them.
“They are not relevant in MMD… but these are the people he is using,” Kaingu said. “Who are the people with Nevers Mumba? Kadobi, Lusambo, Muhabi; who is Muhabi? What election has he won? If there are people who should deliver Nevers Mumba to State House, it is us.”
He said the problem in Zambia was that if somebody talked too much, they were perceived to be intelligent.
“We will not accept this time to be hoodwinked, somebody just to come from nowhere and just tell us stories,” Kaingu said. “Dr Mumba doesn’t own the party, and that is one of the biggest problems. He has shown that it is him and it is him alone… even if he refuses, we will go to the convention. Where we have reached, the die is cast.”
Kaingu claimed that the owners of the party wanted to go to the convention.
“Even in Parliament, they want to go to a convention because they are fatigued,” said Kaingu. “Can MMD form government in 2016? The answer is ‘yes and no’. In our current form, we should just forget. If we can transform ourselves, yes… in fact, if we go on like this, the PF will still bounce back. We need to find a servant leadership.”
But Lungu, who spoke on the programme to rebut what Kaingu earlier said, called Kaingu a liar and hoped he would face him one day.
“I am sorry that I have to respond to things that are blatant lies,” Lungu said. “When he says, ‘who is Muhabi Lungu?’ The whole vice-president can have the audacity to come here and start telling lies…. Can you imagine that he can come here and start saying what he is saying, me being useless? He mentioned Kadobi, myself and Lusambo, all the people who have been persistently and openly defending the president. What does he want the president to do?”
He said Kaingu one day threatened Mumba that if he would allow Namugala in the party, he would resign. He also alleged that Kaingu championed the hounding out of Maj Kachingwe from the party.
Lungu also claimed Kaingu was against Kapembwa Simbao taking over as party national secretary and that he personally called him to his house to ask him whether he was interested in taking over as national secretary.
Lungu said the idea of an extraordinary convention was just being championed by four leaders within the 62-member national executive committee and that clearly the odds were against them as most of the provinces had turned down the suggestion.
Lungu said if Kaingu thought the leadership barometer was about winning a parliamentary seat in a rural area like Mwandi, he should come and contest Lusaka Central and see whether he was going to go anywhere.
“If my objective was winning a seat, I could have gone to Lundazi…. If Mr Kaingu wants to take me to court or if he wants to do anything he wants to do, I am ready to face him. I am completely and totally annoyed,” said Lungu. “That is the problem with my vice-president; he doesn’t take advice very well.”
jamakudi
April 1, 2014 at 11:04 am
Please ba MMD reorganize yourselves. U r still a great party. Just cleanse it for our good.
Overcomer
April 1, 2014 at 11:26 am
Really??
Mukombe Wamano
April 1, 2014 at 11:55 am
If Mumba cant win 2016 what about him Kaingu can he win 2016 as an MMD Presidential candidate. These leaders just want to kill MMD. And if the continue like that MMD will die like UNIP. What is happening in MMD happened in UNIP where is UNIP today dead a shadow of its form self.
DAD K
April 1, 2014 at 12:35 pm
dis iz wen u ‘re realising… there iz enough tym jst reorganize yoselves we ar behind u. where is mr felix mutati?
icinshikululwaMICHEAL THINX POLITX, TOX POLITIX AND ACT POLITX!
April 1, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Nevers Mumba, HH and the like; can’t win! It take a politcian to win. Politx are for politcianz.
Pipo misstakenly compare Chiluba ze late to themselves, they compare Obama to HH. Obama is a politcian BaBa!
UMWAUME
April 1, 2014 at 1:36 pm
Lungu has come out well.Ba Kaingu is the one who is a failure.He is the one who was behind the flashing out of Namugala and Kachingwe but today he wants to be seen good leader,no.Theres no leader who can win elections under MMD in 2016.We need the opposition but not the likes of Kaingu,Dora and Chituwo.
Maano
April 1, 2014 at 1:56 pm
It is not Mumba who cannot win the 2016 General Elections, but the MMD itself can hardly acchieve the feat, just yet. However, this is expected.It is too soon for MMD to bounce back to power! Memories of their failures are still fresh in the minds of Zambians. But, who doesn’t fail?
MMD need just to be patient. They need a healing and rebuilding up process. Zambia needs MMD, perharps more than the people in MMD need Zambia! Zambia needs a workable democratic system and MMD could well be part of the solution. MMD should not die like UNIP. We should not be killing political movements once they lose power. The vertue is to reconstruct them.
icinshikululwa
April 1, 2014 at 2:05 pm
Yes! Our politcal partiez are more needful inoppoztion, even after their looz of power (out of Goverment) BUT leader to be headed the same partiez are a great matter to us. We need politcianz not oppotunities!
Snowden
April 1, 2014 at 2:14 pm
No matter how many leaders you shall change, MMD will never rule this country again.May be transform it into an NGO.
chakuti chake !
April 1, 2014 at 6:51 pm
You’r right , MMD is gone and buried ! You played your part . You are going down like UNIP . Forget it . Do something new NOT as a party .
elijah mwansa
April 1, 2014 at 3:16 pm
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH KAINGU THAT MUMBA CANT WIN AN ELECTION. I TOLD MY FRIENDS IN 2012 THAT MUMBA COULD NOT LEAD A POLITICAL PARTY SUCCESSFULLY. THE MAN FAILED TO LEAD A CHURCH WHERE MONEY WAS GIVEN TO HIM FOR FREE AND THOUGHT POLITICS WOULD PAY HIM MORE.IT’S GOOD THAT HE IS RIDING THROUGH THE TOUGH TERRAIN OF ZAMBIAN POLITICS. JUST REPENT AND LOOK BACK LIKE THE BIBLICAL NEBUCHADNEZZAR DID. GOD WILL SURELY WELCOME YOU. ELIJAH MWANSA, SAMFYA
Richman
April 1, 2014 at 3:25 pm
Ndeloleshafya pa Zed nama politics
Abraham Lincoln
April 1, 2014 at 7:21 pm
Nevers mumba is the Right Leader for the MMD,he just needs the support of His leaders. I feel,it is not right for a Vice-President to attack your president. Kaingu should learn to Protect his president.. Nevers Mumba can win the Presidential Election. Everyone was saying sata cannot win,but who the President of Zambia? Even Nevers can win & he shall win one day.
Ewa
April 2, 2014 at 4:30 pm
No baba, N.Mumba cannot win in 2016. Big NO
jamakudi
April 1, 2014 at 7:31 pm
He can also win and probably lead better than others who call others useless
swine
April 2, 2014 at 5:32 pm
These are the effects of smoking dried poo poo!
Accumen
April 1, 2014 at 8:00 pm
If I were Mumba, I would just resign and start a new party of my own or go back to his old party.But the best would be forming a new party.However, I can never vote for money and luxury lovers like Nevers Mumba.
mumbwe
April 2, 2014 at 7:42 pm
Chikamba!
John Kanio Ka Winta
April 1, 2014 at 8:43 pm
MMD is bouncing back to sort out Winter
Ewa
April 2, 2014 at 4:32 pm
None starter !! Any, dreams are acceptable !!
CHITOTELA RONALD AND ROGERS MWEWA
April 1, 2014 at 8:48 pm
IF WE VOTE FOR NEVERS THEN IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY BIG MISTAKE BECAUSE NEVERS IS JUST CLEVER WHEN TALKING LIKE THE LATE SMALL BOY CHILUBA. LET US TRY FATHER BWALYA.
MUSONDA
April 2, 2014 at 1:19 am
Kaingu and Chituwo are the most useless politicians in MMD including Dora Chisusu. Now Lucky Mulusa is being contaminated by these job seekers. They should not say the top leadership is failing. What constitutes top leadership in MMD? The President, the two vice presidents and the entire NEC. Shallow thinking by Kaingu and Chituwo. Ninjala chabe yaminyokola.
John
April 2, 2014 at 12:52 pm
It is not always about winning. Can their Mulusa they want to put in the seat win the election? A strong opposition is very important too. If Mulusa becomes president as they want, then MMD is PF (Part 2), and therefore it is worse than having an MMD in opposition with Nevers at the helm.
rev
April 2, 2014 at 4:09 pm
leave Nervers alone bakaingu mindd your daughter iris
afcon phiri
April 2, 2014 at 4:49 pm
IT’S SAD TO HEAR THESE WORDS FROM KAINGU ,A DEPUTY PRESIDENT OF MMD.
THIS MEANS KAINGU & CHITUWO HAVE WEIGHED THEMSELVES, THEY ARE BOTH FAILURES.
LEADERSHIP IS NOT ABOUT ONE PERSON BUT TEAM WORK. IF KAINGU & CHITUWO CAN NOT SUPPORT NEVERS HOW CAN YOU EXPECT TO WIN 2016.
afcon phiri
April 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm
QUITTERS ARE FAILURES,WINNERS NEVER QUIT.
NEVERS HAS NOT FAILED BUT THOSE WHO NEED TO GIVE HIM SUPPORT HAVE FAILED TO DO SO.
SHAME ON YOU DORA, KAINGU, CHITUWO, SIMBAO.
BEAU CHILONGO
April 3, 2014 at 11:53 am
Its true nevers can not win an election before i write anything iam sure every body for now is alive to the fact that in this country zambians vote on trible lines, i may sound to be provoking trible thoghts but that is the truth.So coming back to our brethren mr mumba he has no one to vote for him where he comes from no one will vote for him be it luapula,kasama or the muchinga province including his own brother cosmo because he wants to be voted for also,given such a scenario ,mumba is a total liability to the MMD.If mumba has the heart for the MMD he must give chance to people with some votes like GENERAL CHITUWO,HON LUCKY MULUSA,HON KAINGU,OR INDEED OUR ONLY AND SUPER LADY, LADY DORA SILIYA.Mumba must be aware of these facts it is not just fighting to be a president the people who are insisting on mumba to continual the people from luapula and kasama are the same people are not going to vote for mr mumba because they already have there man in power and they are going to vote for him.Let mumba remain in the party as a senior member of party and see how he can manage to convince the people of luapula and kasama about building a better ZAMBIA FOR ALL.ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION CAN NOT WORK WITH A BLOATED CABINET OF 97 PERCENT BEMBAS SEE HOW THIS ECONOMY HAS BEEN DAMAGED!!!WITHIN A SHORT TIME.ITS ALL ABOUT WINING VOTES NOT CHAIRMAN SHIP.ZAMBIA NEEDS URGENT RESCUE FROM ITS CURRENT PATH.Let people with basic votes take over leadership.