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How Other Nigerian Men Of God See TB Joshua
Prophet TB Joshua of Synagogue Church of All Nations is no stranger to controversies and condemnations. Since his emergence as a man of God to whom many run for deliverance, salvation and miracles, the supposed man of God has had to fight off other men of God who see him as nothing but fake.
Perhaps, the most antagonistic among them all is Reverend Chris Okotie of the Household of God who once described the Prophet as the vicar of the devil on earth. Okotie has no mixed feelings about T.B Joshua. To him, the so-called man of God at Synagogue Church of All Nations shouldn’t be associated with because, according to him, he is in partnership with Satan to subjugate the church to the will of the devil.
Okotie’s aversion to everything T.B Joshua stands for became more evident sometime ago when a video showed T.B Joshua and Pastor Chris Oyakhilome purportedly praying for a man on wheelchair.
Pastor Chris Okotie made a number of public comments to Nigerian newspapers and other media sources expressing displeasure that the respected Pastor Chris Oyakilhome started fraternising with TB Joshua.
In one of his media comments, Okotie alleged that T.B. Joshua was a practitioner of an occult science called Docetic Gnosticism and Cerinthian heresy. Docetic Gnosticism, according to Wikipaedia was an ancient Greek spiritual belief system during A.D. 70 through A.D. 100.This particular group asserted that Jesus Christ did not rise physically from the grave as foretold by the Old Testament prophets, eye-witnessed by the apostles and recorded in scripture. This teaching is the biblical definition of false prophecy – the teaching that Christ did not rise physically from the grave.
Cerinthus was a Greek heretic (A.D. 100) who denied the divinity of Jesus Christ. According to Cerinthus, Jesus Christ was not born of a virgin as scripture plainly declares. Cerinthus also believed that during the future millennial reign of Christ inhabitants of the earth would be in bondage to certain lust.
Okotie has also ascribed the acclaimed healing power of TB Joshua to the practice of an ancient Asian yoga-like sorcery called Shamanism, a practice, according to Wikipeadia, that involves a practitioner reaching altered states of consciousness in order to encounter and interact with the spirit world and channel these transcendental energies into this world. A shaman is a person regarded as having access to, and influence in, the world of benevolent and malevolent spirits, who typically enters into a trance state during a ritual, and practices divination and healing.
Evidences abound that worshipers at Synagogue revere and and adulate the name of T.B Joshua by calling him ‘Emmanuel’ (God with us). To this, Chris Okotie stated emphatically: “‘He (T.B Joshua) has three symbols of mysticism. The first is called “The Head of Jesus Christ” or “Christ”. This is a reference to the source of his power. That power is invoked or acknowledged by the word, “Emmanuel.” When “Emmanuel” is chanted, it energizes’ the power. The scriptures say that the head of Christ is God. So when Joshua ‘refers to that head, he is speaking of himself as God Incarnate.’
At the height of the Joshua-Okotie-Oyakhilome imbroglio, other Pentecostal pastors warned T.B Joshua not to parade himself as a Pentecostal preacher.
“He is an occultist,” says Anselm Modubuku, pastor of the Revival Assembly Church in Lagos. “Joshua claims he was born again in his mother’s womb. It is tragic that Spirit-filled people are led astray by him.”
“It is puzzling why Americans are drawn to him,” said Ayo Oritsejafor, pastor of Word of Life Bible Church in Warri and now President of Christian Association of God, CAN. “Where and when did he get saved? Who is his pastor? That is what I would like to know.”
The Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria, headed by Bishop Mike Okonkwo, denounced Joshua as an imposter in a statement. It said the group had for years warned of “the dangers of infiltrators who have modernized cultism by injecting the name of Jesus Christ into their largely unbiblical practices. It is necessary that we reiterate this position that the Synagogue (of All Nations) falls into this category.”
All that notwithstanding, hundreds of thousands still revere him. To those thousands who seek T.B Joshua for spiritual help, the Okoties and Mike Okonkwos of this world are entitled to their opinions. To them, the man TB Joshua is a king who is not recognised in his place. He is a true man of God who heals the sick, delivers people from spiritual attacks and is ever generous to the indigent. His healing power is largely responsible for the thousands who flock into his church especially from abroad. Hence Joshua is more recognised outside than in Nigeria.
My experience at Synagogue – Jacques Pauw,South African journalist
A renowned South African investigative journalist, Jacques Pauw writes on his experience at Synagogue.
I was making a TV documentary and my challenge to Joshua was straightforward: allow me to film how you heal Basson (a 25 year old Springbok rugby player who was dying of liver cancer and went to Prophet T.B Joshua for healing). If you succeed, I promise I will show it to the world.
When we arrived at Joshua’s compound, the TV team and I were in effect incarcerated. For two weeks, we were forbidden to leave the grounds.
We were told we could not drink or smoke, and had to attend services and events with the pilgrims. While I stayed in a dormitory with other pilgrims, Basson and his mother set up camp in a private room.
The church took away the young man’s morphine and pain pills.
During our first interview, a softly spoken, affable Joshua said it would be easy to heal Wium because he had nothing but a “little sore” on his liver.
At Sunday sermons, the afflicted lined up with placards stating what condition they needed healed. There were lines of people seeking a cure for HIV/Aids, cancer and heart conditions, business failures, wandering spouses and dull brains.
A festive, almost joyous atmosphere filled the compound as churchgoers sang, clapped and danced. Evil spirits were cast out and those set free by the Prophet writhed in the dirt while vomiting out the demons. Joshua prayed for every person in the line and declared them all healed. He ordered them to stop using any medication and trust in God. Among the pilgrims was Capetonian John Rindel, who was suffering from full-blown AIDS and already had dementia.
He had arrived at the church several weeks before we did, was prayed for by Joshua and declared completely healed.
He had stopped taking his medicine and showed remarkable improvement.
Scientists refer to this as the “placebo effect” of faith healing. A patient can experience genuine pain relief and other symptomatic alleviation after being prayed for. The relief is short-lived and the patient soon returns to his original condition.
On my request, Rindel agreed to go for two independent HIV/Aids tests when he returned to South Africa. Both showed he was still positive. He died a short while later.
The BBC recently investigated the London branch of the church and reported that three women had died after being “healed” and told to stop taking their HIV/Aids medication.
I challenged the pilgrims to provide me with medical proof that they had been healed. None did. Ruben Kruger died in 2010 just before his 40th birthday.
TB Joshua is a true man of God, not an ordinary person —Journalist
Mr Oye Ogunwale worked in Vanguard as a sub editor for more than a decade before he moved on.
He was very close to T.B Joshua and had this to say about the man:
T.B Joshua is authentic. He is real. I can assure you of that. He is a true man of God. Don’t mind what Nigerians say about him. He performs miracles. I know that some people claim that he is not genuine because they were not healed by the man.
It all depends on faith. Again, it also depends on the sins the miracle seekers committed. Who knows what they have done against humanity that God may want them to go through more penance. Joshua heals people, I can tell you authoritatively. He heals HIV.
I know about 20 HIV victims that he has healed. If you go there you will know that he heals about ten of them in a week. I know of a top man in government whom he delivered from HIV infection.
The man returned with a car as gift. T.B Joshua asked him to take back the car, that he didn’t want it. He only asked him to go, and sin no more. T.B Joshua is like Obafemi Awolowo who was not generally recognised as a great leader until he died. Awo was never given his real value until he died.
Nigeria is like that. Look at Zik. He is another great example. I was close to T.B Joshua for more than 10 years and I can attest to his genuineness as a man of God. If he is not real foreigners will not be going there. Many of his disciples are foreigners. He heals people at the church there or he visits them in their homes to heal them.”
The reporter, at this juncture cuts in to ask “so T.B Joshua visits people in their homes to heal them?”
Oye Ogunwale responds this way: “Yes, he visits them spiritually. He goes to their houses in spirit and heals them.”
How would a sick man in his house know that TB Joshua was the one that healed him”, the reporter asked.
“He would know,” Ogunwale insists, his voice rising. “He will see the man in his dream. And if it’s surgery, for example, he may see spots of blood on his bed or signs that healing has been done. The sick person will know that healing has taken place.
T.B Joshua visits people spiritually and heals them. The patient will see him in a dream. T.B Joshua is not an ordinary man. He can also transfer power to an ordinary person and that person will perform healing. During healing hours, he may touch any person in the congregation and tell that person to come up and heal this man or that man and healing will actually take place when that ordinary person acts as he directs. It is amazing. Heads of States go there.
The former President of Zambia who was always going there said that Africa didn’t know what they have in Joshua and that if T.B Joshua were a white man the whole world will recognise him. He could not believe his eyes when he saw how people were being healed. T.B Joshua is not an ordinary man.
The only thing is that when you go there it may take you days to see him. This, I attribute to the Nigerian factor. When I was in Vanguard, one of the gate men approached me one day and told me that his wife was sick and everything indicated she had cancer. He wanted me to help him with some money.
I told him I didn’t have money but that I could take him and his wife to a man who could help cure his wife. They agreed and I took them to TB Joshua and the woman was healed. An Army General from Ghana once came on wheelchair and on the day of healing he told him to get up and walk. The man got up and staggered and the man of God touched him with his leg and the he stood. Few seconds later he was firm and even ran.
There was applause. The was paralysed from the waist but he walked after T.B Joshu’s touch. T.B Joshua is too much but Nigerians blackmail him a lot. I’m a direct witness to all these things. During service, he would ask witches and wizards to step out and will ask them to reveal their powers. You can’t believe the revelations that come from them and the things that they have done in the past. Unbelievable.
Then you will see him deliver them. He is a powerful man. For a man of God to call somebody from the audience, touch him and transfer power to him and ask him to heal another person and it happens, you should know that such a man is not an ordinary man. And he is very generous. He heals people and still gives them alms. Can you beat that? That’s what I can tell you about T.B Joshua and you can quote me.”
Source:Ayo Onikoyi
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The Radical of Christ
September 28, 2014 at 8:12 pm
This is ludicrous,that man of God is jealous of TBJ.
A Rose by Any Other Name
September 29, 2014 at 4:10 pm
Unfortunately, nobody is going to heaven. It is a wrong teaching made popular!
Ba game
September 28, 2014 at 9:02 pm
what a long boring story
Nigerian Pastor EXPOSED for Running a 419 Scam Church in Malaysia
September 29, 2014 at 8:44 am
Wonders will never end.. Could this be the latest Scam Techniques in Malaysia? Using the Pastor’s Format?
This pastor was caught red-handed using his fraud prophet means to scam and trick people in Malaysia.
You must Watch this Video and see the extent some people are willing to go just to make money.
CHIZ~MAN
September 28, 2014 at 9:30 pm
Looks like there’s a lot behind T.B Joshua.
Apostle
September 28, 2014 at 10:16 pm
Have you ever head Pr Chris or TB Joshua answered those so called Pastors. The Bible tells us that you know them by there fruit. I see hatred ,jealous in them. Jesus was not alone on is time ,but His ministry made difference because of one thing,He had solution to the people un like these Pastors who are busy eating tithe from people without solution.
wiseup
September 28, 2014 at 10:31 pm
a man of God is the man of God.tb is of God if nt send yr bishop to deliver him plz or . no kingdom eva fights itself nd stands.
Peter mulenga
September 28, 2014 at 11:00 pm
u’ll never knw
wisdom
September 29, 2014 at 2:13 am
pipo didnt belv prophets like Elijah and their words.what of john the baptist? jesus was killed becoz they didnt belv him and his rising from death. His disciples were not belvd thats why they were killed.
leta kuno...
September 29, 2014 at 10:43 am
Kuli yesu tabalefwa,Joshua aleipaya apabuta
DOVENKOVO
September 29, 2014 at 5:45 am
I Wonder why men of GOD of nowadays like judging others. I have never heard TB Joshua saying any negative thing against his fellow men of GOD.TB Joshua is a true man of GOD.
Apostle
September 29, 2014 at 6:41 am
Amen oooo!
kakolwe
September 29, 2014 at 7:46 am
AmaPente pastors fisushi saana!! Yes, TB Jo is human but used of God. Go back to the bible bambuli imwe. Jesus said ‘if they are for us, then let them’. I have seen, exprienced & lived God’s handwork through TB Joshua. Nga uyu pastor pompwe alebosabosa, what does he have to show?
Dd
September 29, 2014 at 7:50 am
Nigerian men of God am challenging YOU to do more than he does help more than he TB JOSHUA DOES, MENTOR PEOPLE ALSO,BE CONSISTENT ALSO.IF YOU ARE SAYING HE IS A SATANIST HE SHOULD BE THE ONLY SATANIST WHO IS DOING BETTER THAN BELIEVERS THEN.IN MY 16YEARS WALK WITH THE LORD, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A SATANIST SO HUMBLE ,WHO GLOOMS OTHERS TO DO MINISTRY AND LEADS PEOPLE TO CHRIST LIKE POPULAR MUSCIAN LIKE SISHABA OF SOUTHAFRICA.THEN TB JOSHUA SIR YOU ARE THE ONLY SATANIST WHO IS DOING THE WILL OF GOD SHAME ON ALL MONEY LOVER MEN OF GOD OF NIGERIA, I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO WHAT HE DOES OR JUST SHUT UP LEAVE HIM ALONE LET GOD JUDGE HIM PLEASE.
Proudly exposing the Con-men) of God. No regrets.
September 29, 2014 at 4:02 pm
bla bla bla bla…………
Chichi
September 29, 2014 at 7:53 am
Modern pastors attacking each other
7 days ultimatum to arrest and prosecute TB Joshua
September 29, 2014 at 8:17 am
Pastor caught with another member’s wife in the hotel
7 days ultimatum to arrest and prosecute TB Joshua
September 29, 2014 at 8:22 am
A Pastor was caught in a hotel with a member’s wife, they were found in bed together, the man claiming to be the woman’s husband rained blows on the pastor, you need to watch and share this video, May God forgive the Pastor
Pastor Caught using False Prophecy to Take Advantage of His Female Church Members
September 29, 2014 at 8:31 am
The credulity and stupidity of some people is astonishing. There is no antidote for stupidity. The faithful believers will just continue to hold onto their superstitious beliefs and myths whilst accepting any rubbish fed to them. That is the fundamental basis of getting people to buy into the faith healing garbage. They simply refuse to face up to reality and are terrified of having their delusions shattered.
IF NOT
September 29, 2014 at 8:36 am
This pastor is simply jealous of TBJ, God keep blessing TBJ with long life.
horrible truth
September 29, 2014 at 8:46 am
How do we know TB Joshua and others like him are frauds?
Easy – take your pick :
1. There is no divine God to heal anyone.
2, There is NO documented proof of permanent divine healings of serious illness.
3. These preachers also go to doctors, dentists, opticians and hospitals when required.
4. They are all multi US Dollar millionaires from tithes and offerings.
5, Jesus, Paul and Christians throughout history have been poor and against “earthly” gain.
6. If God heals today, why not go to the hospitals and empty them?
7. They “set the scene” in their healing crusades and bribe journalists for a good report when found out.
8. People that have been told to forget their pills, needles and treatment die.
9. They never heal people with clearly visible conditions; paralysis, paraplegics, missing limbs, organs etc with re-constructive miracles like ; new spinal cords, new limbs, new eye ball etc
10. They have NEVER raised someone from the dead or given a fulfilled prophecy.
Mwenda
September 29, 2014 at 8:55 am
The Devil may pose as an angel of light,even cause fire to rain down from heaven…Brothers be ware of False Prophets.
Fire
September 29, 2014 at 10:13 am
Publish it – why not???
Fire
September 29, 2014 at 10:17 am
I have surrendered i tried to send comments over and over its like Tumfweko themselves fear the truth.
Just one point: How do you lock up journalists for 2 weeks? Unless it is a lie!!
leta kuno...
September 29, 2014 at 10:45 am
Joshua;killer or healer or killerhealer
Kape
September 29, 2014 at 11:42 am
JUST LEAVE THIS MAN ALONE BECAUSE WERE HE HAS COME FROM IS TOO FAR TO LOSE WHAT HE HAS SUFFERED FOR JUST LET PEOPLE SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST TALK ANY HOW. THIS IS JUST A TIME AND THIS TIME WILL SOON BE HISTORY. LOOK AT HIS FACE FULL OF PEACE AND EVEN THE STANDARD OF HIS CHURCH TE BAMUKWANISHE EVEN HIS FELLOW PASTORS CAN DO ANY THING TO LET HIM DOWN BUT GOD FOR SURE WILL FIGHT FOR HIM AND REMEMBER IS GOOD WORKS. PLEASE PIPO WERE WE NEED TO APRECIATE LET US DO SO BECAUSE TODAY ITS HIM TOMORROW IT WILL BE YOU!!!
tumbuka
September 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Generally, I do not comment on such matters because I believe in Jesus and all his teachings. He tells me not to judge another man’s servant but he also warns me of false prophecy. So the best is to leave this issue to God. No matter how much you try, you can never prove your point to anyone. Just pray and work out your own salvation as the Bible encourages us.
Food for thought
September 29, 2014 at 12:34 pm
This is a mighty Prophet of God among us… Search yo Bibles and see the lives of Prophets…’You shall know them by their fruit’ this is how you recognize true and false believers. We’re aware that there false prophets and one of their fruit is “greed, Pride” Etc CLEARLY Jesus said ‘You will do even Greater things shall you do because i go to the father’ JOHN 14v12 IS THIS NOT IN THE BIBLE?
Food for thought
September 29, 2014 at 12:41 pm
Warning!!! ‘Touch not my anointed, do my prophet no harm’ Psalms 105V15… 1Chronicles16V22…. Remember King David had about three opportunities to kill Saul but he never did… WHY? Check your Bible
Food for thought
September 29, 2014 at 12:50 pm
One thing i have noticed is TBJ has no time of calling other men of God names because that’s not his calling. It’s a lesson for many … show us your WORKS not your eloquence…
CATHERIN
September 29, 2014 at 1:27 pm
HMMMM AWE SOME NAMES
musonda chimba
September 29, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Another foolish analysis by an ignorant christian jealous of TB Joshua.
RaBk
September 29, 2014 at 2:48 pm
I thot u knw as a man of God that u shud not judge,if ur called,help pipo,TB Joshua did not advertiz wat God was,is and still doing in de church.U look 2God nd bring de revelation of God to pipo thn talking wthout action.we ar seeing wat de Bible says frm his church.i hop u cn do somethng better thn accusations without revelation.
In the time of Jesus,they were force teachers,miracle workers,prophets etc,but Jesus did nt preacher or take time 2talk about them.if ur called,y not emulate Jesus?
woman of god
September 29, 2014 at 3:57 pm
it’s true tb joshua has no time to talk about other pastors becoz he knows his calling. nigerian pastors are too much jealosy please concetrate on the work of God. you are just wasting your time talking abt this man of God. lesa ala mubomfya sana icakwebati cilabakalipa sana. pliz leave him alone cabashani kanshi ala. mind your own business.
bambi balishaminamo ukwabula ukwishiba coz the bible says do not touch my annointed ones. mulekeni pliz mukakwatilamo ishamo bane.
Proudly exposing the Con-men of "God" No regrets.
September 29, 2014 at 4:04 pm
Iwe are one of the blind followers? Ubusushi bwekabweka
Trixy
September 29, 2014 at 4:19 pm
Some comments one cant know whether to laugh or cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chifukushi
September 29, 2014 at 5:33 pm
This statement can only come from the mouth of the devil.TBJ is a true man of God.if you cant see what is in him you better keep quite coz you will go there(SCOAN) when you have a problem.