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Mumbi Advises Kaseba To Withdraw Her Candidature
Former Munali MP Mumbi Phiri has appealed to former first lady Christine Kaseba to withdrawal her candidature from the PF presidential race, because her decision is against cultural norms.
Ms Phiri who is also Zambia’s High Commissioner to Kenya says Dr Kaseba is not setting a good example because culturally, someone is expected to mourn their loved one for a reasonable period.
She has also expressed disappointed that five members from the same family are all vying for the presidency, and describing such action as an indication of lack of unity in the Sata family.
Ms Phiri was speaking in an interview with journalists in Lusaka today.
Dr Kaseba has filed in her nomination papers to contest the PF Presidency, becoming the only female applicant, in a race that has drawn the interest of nine male contenders.
Dr Kaseba says she has been compelled to join the race to save the PF from destruction or abandonment of the vision and ideals of the late President Michael Sata.
she is saddened and pained that the PF has been characterized by violence, divisions and acrimony in its efforts to find a new leader.
Dr Kaseba says the divisions pose a serious threat to the party and the realisation of the dreams of the late president Sata as contained in the party manifesto.
She is calling for unity of purpose to consolidate the gains the PF made under the leadership of her late husband.
Dr Kaseba says her grief of mourning the loss of her husband cannot be compared to the pain that would result if the party is allowed to die because of divisions.
For her, she says the true mourning of the late president would be to complete the work that he began.
She is also encouraged by the so many people within and outside the PF who have encouraged her to take the leadership of the party.
Dr Kaseba says she has consulted with her family and has listened to the calls urging her to contest the Presidency of the PF.
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mj banda
November 21, 2014 at 12:31 pm
My antie hus spoken finally, this Kaseba is just one of those in the cartel
koffi
November 21, 2014 at 4:59 pm
mj banda, you should become the next President and be ready to be taken to court for gross mismanagement.
Laso
November 21, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Bushe kansi what is the ‘right’ period of mourning?
Wemfula Isa Isa
November 21, 2014 at 3:52 pm
It is not only lack of respect for our culture for Dr Kaseba to start campaigning for presidency a week after her husband’s death but also immoral. When a woman loses a husband in death, not all relatives and friends come before burial. Due to difficulties in travel arrangements or other family or personal issues, others come weeks or even months later. During this period, the bereaved must be around to host those who come later and tell them how the spouse died. That is moral. But what would happen if late Sata’s aunt from the village who couldn’t make it due to an illness came and found that the bereaved has gone to Solwezi or Livingstone to campaign? Dr. Kaseba had better skipped this by-election and vied for presidency in the next presidential election; after all it is only one year later.
Kennedy
November 21, 2014 at 4:10 pm
Imwe naimwe temimwe mwalefwaya ukupyana mukamfwilwa ninshi nomulume talabola? Culture aaaa! Ifyabola. Cant you imagine how long Dr. Kaseba suffered with his husband? Once someone has been terminaly ill even if we want to extend his life, at one point we say “Let him rest”.
If Dr. Kaseba does not want to continue with what her husband believed in, then they were not one. But I believe she wants to to ensure the destine of my President is achieved. Who understands HE MCAS better?
Abakucanakashi
November 21, 2014 at 7:05 pm
Firtly, from your well constructed English, Kennedy, I can tell that you are a learned person who understands that no two persons think exactly alike – not even twins. So we can’t expect Dr. Kaseba to take this country to the precise destiny that Sata had in mind. For example, we can’t tell whether or not the two had the same view on street venders. Kaseba could have appeared to support Sata on the issue but we can’t be sure what was really behind the medical doctor’s mind on the filth that is brought about by the venders.
Secondly, from the censure so far displayed by the public against the widow’s decision to draw a political dagger and step into the “Colosseum” we can tell that the respect and sympathy accorded her has evaporated with her tears. 2016 would have been the best time for her to exercise her rights stand for presidency. Patience pays. Tacamoneke bwino abafyashi besu ba Dr. Kaseba baletukwa insele sha mu politics ilyo fwe bana babo tucili ne cililishi.
But the decision is hers.
Klim
November 22, 2014 at 4:26 pm
So if we cannot be sure that Dr Kaseba cannot take this country to where Sata wanted it to go, since she cannot think like her husband, does it mean that all these who are vying the presidency cannot take the country to the destiny Sata wanted?
mj banda
November 21, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Only Scott has no culture.
koffi
November 21, 2014 at 5:03 pm
But you will have economic prosperous if you give him chance.
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 9:44 pm
scott has a culture. they have hogmanay and the men wear plaid skirts. They also play bagpipes, not ingoma.
PC
November 21, 2014 at 12:41 pm
Leave her alone – its her democratic right. she is not there to please man but God alone knows how she has mourned her husband period.
WhatsUp
November 21, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Ni nani umwikete?
Free Thinker
November 21, 2014 at 12:41 pm
It’s funny how Ms Mumbi Phiri is still commenting about an event that is so yesterday. Dr Kaseba has a right to exercise her right to vie for any position at the forthcoming convention. Why should she be sidelined if she wants to. People have to understand that life goes on even after death. Have you ever heard of the saying that says ‘Let the dead bury themselves,..’. If you Ms Phiri you are still moaning, continue my dear for all we know you are moaning for your job security and welfare.And who are you to lecture us on cultural norms?Being married to someone does not make you a relation. If Mulenga Sata the son and Bob Sichinga can exercise their rights, why not Dr Kaseba. You continue moaning my dear some of us have moved on to the next chapter of this book. And by the way, what are you still doing in Lusaka when you should be in Kenya working.
chileshe
November 21, 2014 at 2:45 pm
Well written
Kennedy
November 21, 2014 at 4:04 pm
Fantastic!
monku
November 21, 2014 at 4:15 pm
Bullsheet!!!!!
Cancelled ATM Card
November 21, 2014 at 5:26 pm
Free thinker, Mumbi Phiri was recalled from Kenya 6 months ago by the late Sata. She is no longer the High Commissioner to Kenya. Problem is that some of these writers do not get their facts right before publishing an article.
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 9:51 pm
move on to the next chapter at your own peril, if you havent first finished the previous chapter.
Move on, move on shani eh? Baali lufyanya ba mama.
No one says she doesn’t have a democratic right to stand, but she has failed to connect and understand the environment she’s in – Zambia.
By the way we are mourning, not ‘moaning’. moaning is something we hope she did with Mr. Sata when he was alive. Since he is dead, we want her to ‘mourn’. Not put his clothes in a sheetbed and disrespect his memory.
UKWA IHEME
November 22, 2014 at 10:18 am
By the way, she packed the clothes in suitcases but Sata’s relatives advised her to put them in plastic bags, as per tradition. She did not wrap the clothes in “sheetbed”. May be bed sheet is better.
And…. if Sata’s relatives have no problem with Madam Kaseba’s move, why the hell do you have a problem with it? They are encouraging her to go ahead and contest. Who are you to lecture us on tradition? Preserve your tradition and watch your country go into ruins.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 22, 2014 at 1:41 pm
Good phucking piece. Well written
Adamson
November 21, 2014 at 12:43 pm
Bamayo ba kaseba! Apene umulume afwile mwalasangwa na mumayanda ya bwalwa twamisanga na muma politics. Twamipapata muli ne ciwa pa mubili iye bamayo imwe, shi bwelela ku’ganda bakeye kupyanika uline ciwa pamubili iye mwe mwanakashi! Mu kamfwilwa na plan ya kwe.
chileshe
November 21, 2014 at 2:46 pm
Oh Please….get a life
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 9:52 pm
get a vocabulary and stop using hackneyed phrases.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 22, 2014 at 1:45 pm
Oh give us a break now everyone is singing that irrelevant song
mj banda
November 21, 2014 at 12:44 pm
This is politics made in Zambia, Kaseba should allow all scrutiny and insults. Walila mvula walila matope
Tiye
November 21, 2014 at 12:46 pm
no wonder kaseba didnt ask the husband to step down even when his health went bad, she could not wait for him to die so that she stand as president,shame on you kaseba, maureen mwanawasa i salute you
UKWA IHEME
November 22, 2014 at 10:21 am
Then what are you saying? Because if she could not wait, she could have asked him to step down and take over. Are we together??
mama
November 21, 2014 at 12:50 pm
Kaseba you are a GOLD DIGGER (WOMAN)SHAM ON U.
chileshe
November 21, 2014 at 2:49 pm
We all dig for gold….its called work
Get a Clue
November 21, 2014 at 2:55 pm
No. We do it honestly in broad daylight
Kawambwa luapula
November 21, 2014 at 12:52 pm
Bwafya
GIFT
November 21, 2014 at 1:30 pm
If Kaseba was to be President of Zambia next year.how are we going to call that man she is about to marry next year?
chileshe
November 21, 2014 at 2:50 pm
How necessary is that comment right now?
Get a Clue
November 21, 2014 at 2:57 pm
Everyone is free to ask what they want. Te democracy mule lila kabili?
Mwali
November 21, 2014 at 3:17 pm
First Gentleman
Kennedy
November 21, 2014 at 4:03 pm
Its simple, he will be refered to as “the first Gentleman” Read english.
mellu
November 21, 2014 at 1:39 pm
IF peaple use to see,where there coming from after death mwand, mayo bakaseba apapene sure bushe balimiwamya no kumi wamwa imwe?
Sobongo
November 21, 2014 at 1:48 pm
How Dr Kaseba wishes she could foretell the future? Mumbi Phiri talking like this today? Life is a mystery, indeed!
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 9:55 pm
Mumbi must talk when she sees something ain’t right. Why are you trying to muzzle her? Does she have some special allegiance to Dr. Kaseba?
Sobongo
November 21, 2014 at 1:52 pm
Haters leave Dr Kaseba alone! This death for the deceased tribalist MCS, pains her more than anybody else!
Ken
November 21, 2014 at 2:00 pm
Mourning like prayer is a personal thing. Whereas other people mourn symbolically, Queen Cobra shall live without her soulmate. Nobody other than her knows how deep the pain touches. In King Cobra’s shoes, the Queen ably fits. Look at the nine men she is going to defeat! They are men of nine lives indeed.
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 9:57 pm
You have your idioms confused – having nine lives is a good thing – it means you escape harm and live to fight another day
Barotse Buffalo
November 21, 2014 at 2:07 pm
In this game of politics she must develop a very thick skin and a fierce tongue ready for counter attack. He who prays for rains must prepare for thunder.
kay
November 21, 2014 at 2:22 pm
This woman campaigned with Sata.if she is given a sympathy vote she will also lie to zambians like his late Husband.i rest my case
chileshe
November 21, 2014 at 2:57 pm
Thats life!
Klim
November 22, 2014 at 4:59 pm
What do you mean by ” his late husband “?
Zick
November 21, 2014 at 2:32 pm
Sata is dead, weather she mourns 20 years or 1 day he is not coming back, she has the right to mourn hours, days weeks, months, years. Its sad that even for educated pipo like this Mumbi does still wallows in culture
Get a Clue
November 21, 2014 at 2:50 pm
Everyone has a culture. Muzungus also have their own. You will NEVER find them insulting their own culture like you. Instead they spread it. You speak their language and ignore yours, you eat their food and ignore yours, now even our customs ati “wallowing”.
Uli Chipuba ca muntu. Tawa ishiba neko noko afuma, styopet! Nangula wiso amutolele pa Chishala?
chileshe
November 21, 2014 at 2:53 pm
Thank you….should culture begin and end with mrs sata, everyone against her, check the skeletons in your closet.
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 9:59 pm
skeletons in my closet are ok. They will stay there unless I step out to stand for public office. Otherwise, I will forever hold the key to that closet
Get a Clue
November 21, 2014 at 2:44 pm
Me, I can’t vote for someone who rubbishes Zambian culture. Our own black muntu telling us that our customs are rubbish. Aka shitisha ichalo uyu mwanakashi. Kabili she doesn’t value it.
chileshe
November 21, 2014 at 2:54 pm
Check for the skeletons in your closet…..keep your vote
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 10:00 pm
see above for an answer to your repetitive reference to skeletons and closets.
blackbull
November 21, 2014 at 2:53 pm
those wanting her to stand they just want her remaining k1.5 bilion so that by the time she leaves state house that money is finished
chileshe
November 21, 2014 at 2:55 pm
Thats her choice and ours…..get a life
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 10:02 pm
I hope you are a small child, talking like you see on television. Ati Get a life.
mj banda
November 21, 2014 at 3:16 pm
@Chileshe, i can smell a rat, i feel you are just a parasite as well as a very selfish person. how do you justify all the whole family vying for presidency. its like playing lottery and you bet a lot of numbers maybe you can chance a jackpot. its a sign of desperation.
UKWA IHEME
November 22, 2014 at 10:32 am
@MJ Banda-you have been very prominent on this blog but mostly contributing shit! Where in the Zambian constitution does it say people from the same family can not contest the Presidency? Do you know the Bush Family in the USA? The Zambian constitution does not look at families, it looks at individuals, period. And world over, I have never come across a constitution which restricts on the basis of family other than the parentage close. For any clever person, it is actually a good strategy because I personally know that at the end of the day, the family will rally behind one person thereby bringing all their supporters together. Let us talk reality not what our villages told us.
Judge Joe Bidden
November 22, 2014 at 1:59 pm
Smart comment
kakolwe
November 21, 2014 at 3:22 pm
First baKaseba says “Sata Never anointed anybody!” Kanshi ninshi balecinga Edgar Lungu. Who the phuck said PF political & governance decissions where being made in Kaseba’s bedroom with Sata? Naiwe @Chileshe you appoint yourself as protector of stupidity, be ready for the deluge. If Kaseba wishes to phuck Winter Kabwamba into presidency, she is wrong. Even her stepson can do better but Zambia ain’t a chieftaincy!! Answer back @chileshe uba amasako pamusula!!!
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 10:06 pm
plus abaa na umusulaa na umbi mu kanwa which she’s talking out of while she also uses it to eat steak from Kaseba.
mj banda
November 21, 2014 at 3:33 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA, Kakolwe you are a mad person te
EX ZIT
November 21, 2014 at 3:39 pm
Ba Kaseba bawesu, kwesu kwilala tulikwete icimbo chamalilo. Wapi namwe mwasenselapi bamfumu? Lileleni abalume tange bamfumu. Mwakufisanga amwapwisha fima politikishi. Alale bama tachiwepo ichi, intambi nintambiiii!!!
Bateny
November 21, 2014 at 3:46 pm
Am very disappointed with you Mrs. Phiri. You know very well that Dr. Kaseba is the best solution to this problem.
Regards
Ba buza
November 21, 2014 at 3:50 pm
If there is division in late sata,s family its non of our business as citizens bamayo ba mumbi phiri.secondly life shd continue after death there is no fixed duration for mourning thus that depends with an individual.leave Dr kaseba to do what pleases her after all bali balume babo.not need to make this noise
Kennedy
November 21, 2014 at 4:01 pm
I am not sure why WOMEN never support their fellow womenfolk. If one by any chance goes up, she does not even want other women to do the same. SHAME!
Ms Mumbi, please clear it to me what you mean by “Your cultural Norms”.
Culture is even worse that Dr. Kaseba participating in what is noble. Ba Mumbi in your culture and mine, immidiately a spouse dies, you start discussing who should “Pyana” the widow or widower. Barely a week another man is asked to have sex with the widow and vise versa.
In the Bible, David once had a sick child and he could not bath or do anything meaningful but immidiately the son died and got burried, David bathed and ate and he began his work.
Stop the Jelousy please you womenfolk. One of the Millenium development goes is to have equal opportunities by some date but look at Mumbi Phiri.
By the way, is it your culture to marry a Phiri from easterm province?
GO AHEAD DR. KASEBA GO! YOU INFACT HAS GOT ALOT OF EXPERINCE NOW.
amano ukubula
November 21, 2014 at 10:08 pm
is that you commenting Christine? We know it’s you.
Pyepye
November 21, 2014 at 4:04 pm
I smell kaseba the gold gidder in here
Abakucanakashi
November 21, 2014 at 4:04 pm
See reply to comment number 2.
Pink panther
November 21, 2014 at 4:10 pm
Leave her alone she is an adult to differentiate bad and good
Anderson Chisala
November 21, 2014 at 4:11 pm
Mumbi Phiri…..no one can listen to you !!!
Its Kaseba chabe……She mourned Sata for 14 days and even before he died she was mourning him.
Lets not bring unnecesary traditions
January20
November 21, 2014 at 4:49 pm
A lady President is what mother Zambia need now so that stealing and corruption can be sorted out in our country. I support Kaseba and she has my vote and no one from that list or from the opposition can beat her.
monk
November 21, 2014 at 4:57 pm
the issue here has nothing to do with human rights. in de name of human rights i can sleep with your wife & claim dat i have a right to eat her.
Joseph Ndashe
November 21, 2014 at 5:42 pm
Dear Beloved and respected Sister Dr. Christine Kaseba
I have followed the process that is going on in Zambia more especially inn the PF the ruling party.
I have also read your concern that prompted you to join the race…
For sure you have the right views to enable you feel like taking the decision which you have taken. I am glad that you made several consultations and they gave you a go ahead.
My concern is that, this move has come at a wrong time which will make people to misunderstand you. You have 100% democratic choice to do what you have hoped for. However, kindly take my humble advise, that it will be better for you to contest in the 2016 General elections. If this position was meant for you, it will surely come back to you.
You have built yourself a very good profile which should not be destroyed. Remember, you are a Zambian and an African. The move taken now will be misunderstood and be taken as a weapon against you in the opposition rallies and from within your own party.
Those you consulted over looked this important and sensitive part.
You have all the qualities, but this one of Bana Kulila will weaken your position.
Your Servant in Christ
Bishop Joseph Ndashe
Judge Joe Bidden
November 22, 2014 at 2:11 pm
So you are the judge to fix when it’s right for her to stand? Pamatako, all Zambians are free to stand our Sata is rotten by now MHSRIP she has to move on. Joseph Kabila was installed right after his father’s death so what’s wrong with Mrs Sata? All of a sudden we have professors in morals. Mxm
Sepiso M wiya
November 21, 2014 at 7:22 pm
The husband might be proud of her.What mourning?She z still in pain of course and life should go on as long as she z respected him.Go Kaseba GO!
Sparrow
November 21, 2014 at 8:00 pm
Well said ms Mumbi. Ba Kaseba sure!!! She has thrown to the wind all the respect well meaning peaple had for. Exercising her rights indeed!!!!
CK
November 21, 2014 at 8:48 pm
DOES OUR CONSTITUTION ALLOWE UNMARRIED CANDIDATES…?
monk
November 21, 2014 at 9:54 pm
iwe ck, what is de connection btn marying & leadership?
mujuku gumbo
November 22, 2014 at 12:54 pm
Actualy am not judging any body, if Dr. Kaseba feels she’s doing the right thing let her do it, after lol abafwa taba bwela.
sataçadre
November 22, 2014 at 2:30 pm
Doctor Kaseba had been there in the formation of PF she had been the full anchor to the big man when he left MMD to make PF. She is the one who had been cooking the nsima to give enough energy to Sata to move all round the country campaigning.What can you today come and say about Kaseba and PF you opportunists. Can Kaseba just sit watching Edgar Lungu a boy employed by Sata destroy PF? If your husband died would you just sit and watch looters loot your hard worked for assets in the name of morning. You are compelling our mother into Mourning so that you can continue looting. Twakana Mama ima tulekusapota
Bigger Boss
November 22, 2014 at 6:26 pm
Indeloleshafye! The dead are conscious of nothing at all,she has made that decision and I think its finall.If she revealed all this during Sata’s sickness then everyone could have the mandate to blame her,let her go on,its her choice.
Alexia Mwambuna
November 22, 2014 at 10:06 pm
The message from all of us as Zambians is that we do not see any scientific and concrete reason for Mrs Kaseba to come from nowhere to take advantage of the late President’s popularity for her to rule
Zambians. We have more educated and civilized Zambians with well defined political agendas and intentions to the benefit of poor Zambians. Mrs Kaseba must wait and respect the wishes of zambians.
munda inmuchabu
November 23, 2014 at 4:39 am
kanyo kenu ba christine kasebanya,u ar an abomination in o history of human society.
mk
November 23, 2014 at 2:18 pm
guyz let her try her level best……..