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MMD Says Zambia Is Not Safe Under Edgar Lungu
Addressing journalists yesterday, MMD national chairperson and Kasempa member of parliament, Kabinga Pande, said violence under Lungu, the PF presidential candidate for the January 20, 2015 presidential election, had caused a lot of injustice to citizens.
Pande, flanked by Ikeleng’i, Lufwanyama and Rufunsa members of parliament Elijah Muchima, Annie Chungu and Kenneth Chipungu respectively said the PF was desperate to win the election at all costs.
Others were MMD chairperson for legal affairs Bradford Machila and national vice-chairperson Edgar Keembe. “The levels of violence in PF under Mr Lungu have increased. That’s why we want HH (Hakainde Hichilema).
We can’t afford to have in government a person who has not condemned violence from his supporters, and propagating violence to be in power. The country is not safe under Mr Lungu,” he said. Pande said the Lungu camp was using violence to intimidate others.
He said it would be impossible for Lungu to condemn violence if in power as he had not done so as a candidate. “We have not heard him (Lungu) condemn violence, so why should we trust that he will stop violence when he is in power? The only person we have heard condemn violence is (acting President) Dr Scott, and we commend him for that.” And Pande said the purported MMD national executive committee meeting held on Wednesday to support Lungu had no blessings of the party.
He said he was aware that those that attended the meeting were serving personal interests and not those of the MMD. “The conveners of that meeting have been promised things in their own capacity and among the things they have been promised is that if Mr Lungu wins, he will release the MMD vehicles which were handed over to the state.
We want a president who is promising good governance and [to] unite the people of Zambia. Currently, Zambia is divided into regions and we want to destroy, kill that regionalism,” Pande said.
Expelled MMD national secretary Muhabi Lungu on Wednesday failed to gather MMD NEC members to endorse Lungu.
Pande said politicians should desist from tribal sentiments in their quest to win votes.
He said tribalisim should not be tolerated in a democratic society like Zambia.
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UMWAUME
December 26, 2014 at 12:56 pm
Desperation at its best. Which violence are they talking about? Big people with no brains. Have they forgotten how violent MMD was? Go and cheat your girl friends idiots.
True Source
December 26, 2014 at 2:24 pm
When the Presidential Elections will be held on 20th January 2015, and if 2,539,925 people voted, which is nearly equally to the number of people that voted in 2011, 1,366,737 (53.81%) would vote UPND country wide and 880,087 (32.1%) would vote PF and 208,275 would vote MMD and 3.3% would vote FDD with a negligible NAREP % therein, therefore the current opinion poll based on 50 sampled registered voters in each of the 10 [provinces by province weight of voter numbers and with a margin of error of +- 3% results are as follows: Lusaka HH-44%, EL-44%NM-9%, EN-3%, Luapula HH-33%, EL- 59%, NM-13%, EN- 5%, Northern HH-30%, EL-58%, NM-10%, EN-10%, Muchinga HH-29%, EL-52%, NM-12%, EN-4%, Central HH- 54%, EL-34%, NM- 11%, EN-1%,Eastern HH-61%, EL-35%, NM-3%,EN-1%, Southern HH-89%, EL-6%, NM4%, EN-1%, Western HH-76%, EL-16%, NM-4%, EN-2%, North Western HH-82%, EL-8%, NM-5%, EN-1%, Sondashi-4%. These are based on the Product probability sum of averages of voter ratios. This gives HH 53.81% of the national vote with EL on 34.17% in this more exhaustive approach, my margin of error is 3%, and that HH’s pessimistic result in this scenario will be 50.81% and EL’s optimistic result will be at 37.17%. Seeing that now this is a two horse race, by deduction, we deduce HH to be president elect come January 20th, 2015.
Kindly note that the voter numbers are 304,000 for Northwestern, 314,000 aprox for western, 644,000 for Eastern, 625,000 for Southern, 827,000for the Copperbelt and 748,000 for Lusaka and we are dealing with roughly 50% turn out (Was actually 52% turn out in 2011). Other sets of moving averages have been used to determine the expected number of voters with discounted voters on the basis of rains, deaths, lost voters cards and other factors of motivation and apathy. The sets of 50 Sampled individuals have been sampled more than once between November 1 and December 25 2014.
ST. DESPERATIOUS
December 26, 2014 at 4:59 pm
My friend, HH cannot win in Eastern Province. Just forget. Look HH will win in North Western, Western and Southern Province. Central Province will be tight but Edgar Lungu will score Lusaka, Copperbelt, Northern, Luapula, Eastern Provinces. This prediction is only subject to turn out. Percentages mean nothing.HH expects a tribal vote in Southern? We will give him a tribal snub in Northern aswell!
FuManchu
December 26, 2014 at 8:04 pm
You’re very categorical when you say HH cannot win in EP! So eradication of tribalism is not even at the horizon!
Blago
December 27, 2014 at 1:22 am
At least this poll looks legit. The only interesting element in this poll is HH winning Eastern by 61%? What a shocking upset it would be.
Tent Man
December 26, 2014 at 2:26 pm
Yes especilly that Edgar Lungu is a Muslim.
His full names are Edgar Muhammad Lungu and not Edgar Chagwa Lungu.
God help us, HH is the answer.
Ndanjekakhs
December 26, 2014 at 5:25 pm
You are African
ST. DESPERATIOUS
December 26, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Kabinga Pande is Tonga, it is no surprise that he is rallying behind HH and looking for a job. Look, PF is winning and coming for your seats. MMD is truly over.
Bange-man (Khayaman)
December 26, 2014 at 1:41 pm
You are a big fool. Everyone who supports HH ati he’s Tonga. Kabinga Pande is from North Western province and he’s Kaonde by tribe. Mukanya imilopa when HH is declared president. Bemba’s are the worst tribalists in Zambia. Mafi yenu.
ST. DESPERATIOUS
December 26, 2014 at 4:52 pm
Suck a cock and drink chibwantu man! You are Tonga!
akakote.
December 26, 2014 at 12:58 pm
Pande, kabinga, chipungu are all from northwest..HH relatives. If not tribal why can’t you also support EL? The 21 are also related to EL hence the support. Edgar 2015-2021
Bange-man (Khayaman)
December 26, 2014 at 1:42 pm
Just listen to your reasoning! Imbushi fye ituntulu.
BANAGO
December 26, 2014 at 1:01 pm
POLITICIANS JUST B PATIENT.VIOLENCE OCURED DURING INTRA FIGHTING.NOW DAT THEY VE RECONCILED THINGS ARE CULM.MMD PUT UR PARTY IN ORDER & STOP TOKING ABOUT PF & LUNGU BCOZ Z OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.WHETHER U LIKE OR NOT.VIVA LUNGU.
Judge Joe Bidden
December 26, 2014 at 1:26 pm
MMD is talking as Zambians concerned with violence, guys sometime lets put aside our cadre attire and condemn things, yes let Lungu or HH win (I care less) but if we see fellow Zambians hacking each other with pangas thats a development we collectively need to castigate, and where does it start from? From us.
Hi
December 27, 2014 at 3:03 am
What intelligent do you which subjects make people study law that one is a lawyer he has to go through things several times to understand brain very slow .
HH is a business man economics you have to think quick and accurent not adjourn , appeal those fun terms .we are in a dynamic world
Judge Joe Bidden
December 26, 2014 at 1:09 pm
I have been saying this over and over again, why is it that Edgar Lungu has NEVER uttered a single word against violence we have seen in his party? as a leader he needed to set a good example and set standard that his cadres should emulate and abide by. He is not a bad person pe se but he lacks control of things, his cabinet minister gang too he will never control them as they will always say we pushed you into that seat… so leave us alone to enjoy the fruits.
Bange-man (Khayaman)
December 26, 2014 at 1:44 pm
My friend Lungu has no agenda for Zambia. Ni HH chabe. Lungu nokulanda taishiba. Ngalelanda nefimate filefuma mukanwa mulandu wa bwalwa.
Adviser
December 26, 2014 at 9:21 pm
Clearly, you have not followed very well – and this makes it difficult for you to be impartial. Edgar was the first and only senior PF member – and as acting President, when Mr. Sata was still alive, to condemn violence by anybody, and called on the Police to execute their duties professionally. Nobody else in PF ever said this. Today Dr. Scott wants to be hero because Mr. Sata is gone, my foot!!!
mujosah
December 26, 2014 at 1:14 pm
Muhibi lungu apapya watobela ifintu
Ni mukwenu ELC,checheche!
MCCM
December 26, 2014 at 1:21 pm
Edgar is a very intelligent person,very reserved.He doesnt enjoy wafling.He is not like HH who has been ranting for more than 10 years and has achieved nothing
Judge Joe Bidden
December 26, 2014 at 1:31 pm
Buddy, Edgar is calm (too calm) but he seem to be in autopilot and letting anybody and anything control him. Thjats a trait that makes some of us very uncomfortable for a leader. Remember how easily he gave Scott the presidency only to start fighting for the same seat he relinquished just a week earlier, those are signs one need to pick. Who pulls his strings?
ndanje kaks
December 26, 2014 at 3:14 pm
You are no in Zambia
Judge Joe Bidden
December 26, 2014 at 4:00 pm
Nope! be back on 2nd.
Advocate 4 Change
December 26, 2014 at 1:28 pm
Is is a known fact the violence being toked about
Is the one which saw people like Winter ,chikwelete
And some other top readership to resign from PF.
GBM is one such person who has been sidelined by Lungu
an for condemning violence in PF.Now we have officials
from Choma and Livingstone leaving PF because the
Party is not organised.We can’t leadership from a
House which is not in order like PF.Surely we want Change
Those that insult because of these truths have a lot of
homework to do.Insults will not help u.ViVa HH.ViVa Change for for better Zambua
mujo jojo
December 26, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Mpande is just making noise, he looks lost was better off ku BOZ this fool that the price one pays 4 being foolish & stupid there MMD is spli into 3 useless camps
Bange-man (Khayaman)
December 26, 2014 at 1:45 pm
Ni HH chabe fye apa. Ba Lungu kuwayawaya fye.
Anderson Chisala
December 26, 2014 at 1:58 pm
For sure its HH chabbe……!!
Ba buza
December 26, 2014 at 2:17 pm
MMD ni mbushi,(she goats)You va your own party and president to support and make government but yet u are busy supporting HH,Others Edgar lungu kanshi disband ur party and join others to reduce this zambian political comedy or rather political muppet show
Ndeloleshafye
December 26, 2014 at 2:20 pm
Lungu niziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Chinena
December 26, 2014 at 2:23 pm
Pande if you were honest you should have been campaigning for MMD. If u believe UPND is better, the leave MMD. You are doing all this for selfish personal reasons. Leave Edgar alone worry about your MMD. The support for Lungu is huge and unstoppable. Lungu u have won many hearts, HH will fall again.
kay
December 26, 2014 at 2:25 pm
MMD z finished so get lost VIVAAAAAAA LUNGU
Not thinking at all
December 26, 2014 at 2:28 pm
Voted 4 sata but switching over to team hh. Not impressed with current readership in pf. It doesn’t matter hw long it takes 4 team hh 2 take over but better support him now
ndanje kaks
December 26, 2014 at 3:15 pm
readership? You mean PF cannot read?
MCCM
December 26, 2014 at 2:38 pm
Keep on switching,we will be so happy to count you among the loosers with your HH.This man has no chance at all against EL.If people were to vote between a frog and HH,a frog will imerge victorious.This HH whether he is good or bad,he cannot and will never be president no matter how you campaign for him
chief Puta
December 26, 2014 at 6:31 pm
@MCCM,i lyk yo analysis of UPND and their chances of winning the next polls,truth b told HH and hs minion wil never see the corridors of power nt in ths generatuon.Am in mansa rit nw i cb safely say dat 90percent r for Edgar Northern and Eastern bwafya,Lusaka Copala ifintu ni Lungu…then we follow hm Ku bedroom Ku southern ala chikawama.
The one
December 26, 2014 at 2:45 pm
Foolish MMD MPs you have your own party why supporting HH, wait and see you will go to hell together will HH after january 20. Viva Lungu
umupondo
December 26, 2014 at 2:57 pm
bafikala MMD kale yapwa ninshi mulesapotela impaka inenu HH ifwe ni lungu u who see
ndanje kaks
December 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm
They must have promised HH an easy victory, but now they are seeing the real battle and are panicking.
ndanje kaks
December 26, 2014 at 3:16 pm
What are you moderating ba Tumfweko
MCCM
December 26, 2014 at 3:19 pm
LUNGU
MCCM
December 26, 2014 at 3:20 pm
LUNGU ONLY
MCCM
December 26, 2014 at 3:20 pm
IFINTU NI LUNGU
Chitutuma
December 26, 2014 at 3:25 pm
Granted, change will,indeed, come. However, the change will not happen in January,2015,but at some election in the distant future,after PF will have exhausted it’s God-given mandate. Further, that change will usher in a party and leadership totally different from Upnd or/and any other Tonga-type constellation(s).
MCCM
December 26, 2014 at 3:47 pm
u have hit on the top of the nail
monde
December 26, 2014 at 3:53 pm
where is the problem? lungu has acted before and our country was safe. lungu is our next president and we are changing constituition for one to be president he must be MP for 5 years.
kakolwe
December 26, 2014 at 5:13 pm
How would I appear to my children if I and my neighbour are building houses just before the rains & I stand up & tell my children to say, Let us ferry bulding sand & help o neighbour to finish the house he is bulding coz its a better plan! Even your choldren ca ponona you.
Robbie Kalale
December 26, 2014 at 8:13 pm
Kabinga pande nd the so called MMD outdated material 4 sure ifintu in Lungu …….4 President 2015.
blackbull
December 26, 2014 at 8:32 pm
its high time that even the foolishest read the words on the wall the people of zambia have no interest what sover in continueing with pf the useless ministers as stated by the late owner who died with his party the small titanic boat good bye viva hh 2015 zambia forward.
tonny
December 26, 2014 at 9:44 pm
edger will win this game! hh tapali icakwe naekalefye!
Not thinking at all
December 26, 2014 at 10:23 pm
Teti Edgar awe teti chawama nokuvotela uulelusa.
Not thinking at all
December 26, 2014 at 10:26 pm
Teti Edgar awe teti chawama nokuvotela uulelusa. But pa zed kuti waseka mwee! Ati lunguu,hahahahahaha !
kas
December 26, 2014 at 11:29 pm
mpande has no moral campus to show were the lest of the mmd mps must go or support
M.C
December 27, 2014 at 2:52 am
There is nothing we can listen from you Pande, hav you forgotten the chaos which was in MMD, the so much violence in your party when you were & still is national secretary, you are such a disorganised politician who wil very soon be Jobless, you can’t be trusted, you are just a simple political prostitute, wait for 2016, the pipo in your constitutency wil show you an exit door.
M.C
December 27, 2014 at 2:54 am
I meant you were & still is National chairperson.
eagles nests
December 27, 2014 at 7:25 am
MMD GO TO HELL EVERY HOME HAS COMFLICT
YOU MUST BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES FOOLISHNESS
Sena
December 27, 2014 at 12:33 pm
Things are now backfiring on HH. Google freemasonry in Zambia and see for yoursevels blind followers. HH is a Satanis.