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It Is Time For A Tonga To Rule – Munkombwe
SOUTHERN Province Minister Daniel Munkombwe says he has decided to support UPND president Hakainde Hichilema, rejecting the position of Cabinet minister allegedly promised by PF president Edgar Lungu because it was time for the Tonga-speaking people to govern.
Speaking at a mammoth rally in Choma yesterday, Mr. Munkombwe told the residents of Choma that Mr. Lungu sent emissaries to plead for his support in exchange for the position of Cabinet minister if the PF won the election next week.
Mr Munkombwe said other tribes have governed the country and that was time for the people of Southern Province to produce a leader to take over the governance of the country.
“Patriotic Front president Edgar Lungu promised me the position of Cabinet minister if I supported and campaigned for him in Southern Province but I have declined because I am no longer thirst for the position of Cabinet minister anymore,” said Mr. Munkombwe.
Mr. Munkombwe said he would not wait to resign for him to make a decision about who he should support ahead of next week’s presidential election, but that his desire was to guide the people of Zambia on what was best at the moment.
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KA GELO
January 14, 2015 at 11:46 am
So this shameless old man thinks bantubotatwe will govern? I doubt it 110%
illuminatti
January 14, 2015 at 12:17 pm
hey! stop insulting the old man. you are going to be cursed and will not even win and enjoy your erection or sorry election. i know you are lady. my apologies.
Kachokwe
January 14, 2015 at 11:54 am
Nangu Kalubale, nameno aya songoka.
Dkar
January 14, 2015 at 12:05 pm
Shameless old man. Muselela kwakaba. Wait for next week to see what happens next. U claimed to have been side lined and today ulebepa ubufi ati you were promised a cabinet post. Just join your own in’gombe ilele.
Scot Fun
January 14, 2015 at 12:05 pm
Interesting! I thought EL didn’t promise anyone jobs.
new age
January 14, 2015 at 12:05 pm
The problem is not with Munkombwe but with the people who embrace him. Any sane person cannot comprehend the sanity of this old man. Remember the ‘politics of the tummy statement’? How long has it been since he made that ridiculously infamous statement? Barely 3 years and today he is saying this. Anyway that is what old age can do. Insomnia! !!!!
Mwamoneni
January 14, 2015 at 1:59 pm
I agree with you. Ba UPND sure how did you agree that Munkombwe speak at your rally? This is so shameful – I hope it has not led you to having a few more less votes. Ba Munkombwe awe sure – he is a disgrace mwandini. How can he say that when HH is saying he is above tribe?
nato
January 14, 2015 at 4:30 pm
you mean dementia?
Nyati
January 14, 2015 at 12:08 pm
May be some people are ignorant, Mutati is supporting HH, Mucheleka is supporting HH, Dr Mwanawasa is supporting HH, Mutale is supporting HH, GBM is supporting HH, Masebo is supporting HH, Mangani is supporting HH, Zulu S is supporting HH, Masheke is supporting HH, Harrington is supporting HH, Dipak is supporting HH, Shikapwasha is supporting HH, Kalima is supporting HH, Adraw Banda is supporting HH,Prof Lungwagwa is suppporting HH; the list is endless & all are saying HH is the best of all the candidates contesting for president & Lungu is the worst of all, a man without a vision. Pf has no leadership as at now & was buried with its founder.
Jimmy
January 14, 2015 at 12:09 pm
The End of Daniel Munkombwe Political career.whatever goes up must come down.He has pressed a wrong button.Rest in peace Daniel.
FREEMASON
January 14, 2015 at 12:12 pm
I irrelevant adult prostitute.
He wants sex that’s all. When president Sata died and everyone in funeral mode he was secretly having endless rounds with new wife. Look at him, labish.
pk mansa
January 14, 2015 at 12:15 pm
nangu kalubale shani iwe kembo.no tym for ur tribal talk u guys,th thing is HH is th best for nw.i voted for sata bt nw wev resolved wth my colleagues to vote for HH on tuesday.whetha u lyk it or nt th man is going thru.am told ryt nw th massive rally is on in kalomo.watch th space
KA GELO
January 14, 2015 at 12:17 pm
of course Kalomo ni backyard yakwe. He can have a massive rally as expected.
Cool temple
January 14, 2015 at 12:18 pm
You foolish old rag, you are in for a rude shock ! Is is the end of your eating with both hands swaini iwe!. HH is losing hands down , and may you rot in hell fire. Chi Suntwe iwe
citizen
January 14, 2015 at 12:19 pm
Let Munkombwe conitinue day-dreaming for the day a Tonga goes into State House! Next weekend he will wake up to the rudest shock he has ever had in his life. Am sure he will miss being addressed “Honorable”. But knowing him, in a short period after the inauguration of EL, Munkombwe will start praising EL’s good leadership. Chi muselela kwakaba! Shame on you!!!
Dambwiso
January 14, 2015 at 12:19 pm
You can have all the votes in Southern-its expected-Bantustan Party
Wanyafye Tigers FC
January 14, 2015 at 12:21 pm
Mr Munkombwe, if you are going to use tribe as basis for voting for someone, below is the reason why such an approach can’t work:
(Source ECZ website)
CENTRAL 483,790 ; COPPERBELT 845,439; EASTERN 600,098; LUAPULA 408,791; LUSAKA 796,687 ; MUCHINGA 269,139 ; NORTHERN 434,478 ; NORTH WESTERN 315,588; SOUTHERN 617,461 ; WESTERN 394,617
TOTALS 5,166,088
Let’s say x= 80% of HH’s strongholds. Then x = 0.8x (394,00 West + 617,000 South + 315,000 N/West) = 1,060,000 votes
Let’s y = 30% of HH’s weakholds then y = 0.3 x (rest of provinces) = 911,700 votes
Therefore x + y = 1,971,700
Assume MMD, Green Party, FDD, get 15% of national votes then they have 774,900
Assume again PF gets the balance, then PF has 2,419,400.
I have assumed 100% turnout, which of course is not possible. This is a simple illustration to show the folly of relying on strongholds whose total registered voters can be equal to 2 constituencies in Lusaka.
Vote on merit, not tribe or religion or other crap.
champion
January 15, 2015 at 1:33 pm
Agreed. That looks like the likely outcome. Campaigning on tribe is not needed especially with all these intermarriages!
Therefore, reject tribal vote!
VOTE EDGAR LUNGU
bawesu
January 14, 2015 at 12:21 pm
This Dog elso.
jayjay
January 14, 2015 at 2:38 pm
Ecl efintu- Viva PF!
Davido
January 14, 2015 at 12:24 pm
HH is the best candidate for Now, we can not continue with mediocre leadership no matter how short the period. I voted for sata but now of the top three in terms of commanding numbers (crowds), (Lungu, HH, and Mumba) HH offers the stability and vision in all respects.
Simplicity
January 14, 2015 at 12:33 pm
I am voting for PF as a Party. It does not matter who the leader is. As for UPND, I would not vote for the party because of its leader.
Alola
January 14, 2015 at 12:32 pm
A tonga will always support his tonga friend no matter wat so to me am not surprised.
Wanyafye Tigers FC
January 14, 2015 at 12:38 pm
Some parties say they are full of intelligent people. If they can interpret free stats on voter distribution and apply normal distribution analyses, then they will know where and how to cast their nets. The Zambian voter population concentration is skewed.
Always vote for the right man or woman. any other basis may disappoint you.
jsm
January 14, 2015 at 12:35 pm
The fact that Nyati lists a number of opposition party MPs – serve for GBM who is in National Assembly due to Court Injunction- does not show popularity or best choice, NO. If it is not tribal, then it is personal benefit or just hatred for the popuplar party.
For old man Munkombwe, it is politics of the tummy. Remember what he said during that interview. However, for this one, he has mis-calculated- he will lose with the underfive presido and will mark his political doom. ‘younger man bye bye’. Kwamana mudala.
Analytical
January 14, 2015 at 12:38 pm
@Wanyafye Tigers FC , tribe in Zambian politics plays a very important factor(and it will take time to change). Mr Sata used the same method but soon realised that his tribe (Northen,Luapula and his cousins the Easterners) will not be suffucient enough to usher him in state house. He needed the numbers from somewhere also. HH is not only basing his hope on his tribe as you have put it, the people supporting HH are strategic to capture even the so called ‘weakholds’. I like you analysis but bare in mind that regional politics are a major factor in Zambia and you need to use it to the maximum. Every politician is doing that.
Wanyafye Tigers FC
January 14, 2015 at 12:41 pm
Agreed, one must think beyond region and tribe. Sata unlearned that and eventually won by appealing to all regions and tribes.
Dambwiso
January 14, 2015 at 12:40 pm
I can never vote for a Party whose Presidency is decided on the basis of tribe-finish. That’s the more reason UPND cannot win as Zambians have not forgotten. All these characters who are endorsing HH are doing it out of bitterness as UPND requires a lot to clean itself up. May be its time they installed a non Tonga as President for the Party
jj kalonda
January 14, 2015 at 12:49 pm
Zambians that still discriminate against each other based on tribe are living in the stone age. I swear, a normal Zambian in this day and age MUST be connected somehow to another tribe by means of inter-marriage somewhere in the extended family. For example, Kakolwe has a Tonga chick lol
Tom
January 14, 2015 at 12:51 pm
Bembas are underrating the influence of bantu-botatwe we are not a small tribe that you can simply bulldoze we exist in large numbers just come down we work together if you provoke us surely Zambia cannot exist,if we led the fight for independence against colonial Masters who are you to stop us from taking YOU out of bantu-botatwe(Livingistone to kabwe) land you are becoming thorns in our own land you have Luapula and Northern province where you can run to us this our only land.if you want to ignore us do it at your own peril
Ndaje Kahks
January 14, 2015 at 1:10 pm
UNCLE HAS MADE a mistake by mentioning the tribe. He should have just campaigned
Monk Sq Analysis
January 14, 2015 at 1:25 pm
Iwe pumbafu leave the Bembas alone. This story is about old fossil Munkombwe confirming tribalism in Up and Down
nono
January 14, 2015 at 10:15 pm
you are foolish tom, this country is not for bantu botatwe zambia belongs to zambians, you are still in the stone age bro.if you think you can usher in a leader without support from other parts of the country im sorry, you have to wait until your generation pass. bembas are the majority in this country, go to central statistics they will give the figures. foolish fool…………………
leo
January 15, 2015 at 11:06 am
Tom, what problem do u have with bembas iye…is edgar lungu bemba??? this race is between Edgar and HH and not tribes. The reason i will never vote for HH is because, i can smile his hatred for bemba people from far, just like you! even where bemba is not involved u have to include us. We are peace loving Zambians who relate with any tribe, thats a known fact!
if people have been comfortable voting for a bemba or an easterner its because of their nature to be welcoming to anyone regardless of who u are! I am not saying all tongas or lozi people are triblist but the majority are!
mk
January 14, 2015 at 1:11 pm
As long as u are born as a tonga then yo party should have a tonga leader,why? l have said so becoz l have observed it,try not to argue but observe fairy.I hav a colleague who supports pf becouse most of the pipo he works with are pf bt wen he knocks off he supports upnd and to me it interprets that the tribal (Tonga) element still remains. Munkombwe has been upnd working in pf
Muko
January 14, 2015 at 1:14 pm
Some people would vote for PF even if you put a monkey to stand on PF! Others would also vote for UPND even if you put a cow to stand on UPND ticket! Yaaaa!!
KAPOWELA WAMU P*U*S*S*Y
January 14, 2015 at 1:15 pm
@TOM YOU SUCH A TYPICAL TONGA GUY,JUST LISTEN TO YOURSELF,YOU GUYS CAN NEVER RULE ZAMBIA BECAUSE OF YOUR PRIDE AND ARROGANCE…YOU THINK YOU ARE SO SPECIAL,ANY WAY DREAM ON,THANK JESUS YOU JST A FRACTION OF THE NATION PANTU NGATWALICHULA,TO HELL WITH YOU GUYS,UPND TONGA CREEPY PARTY WITH VOTES ONLY FROM CREEPY PEOPLE,OVER MY DEAD BODY WILL YOU ID*I*O*TS TO TO PLOT 1,I HATE THSE COWS MWEEEEEE
ngombe ilede
January 14, 2015 at 1:19 pm
munkombwe;s point of time for a tonga is a miscaculation at this time tribal voting has been condemned so far where is that ngo that condemned mmd about tribal voting its back with munkombwe these guys must learn to hide black side of there life and am suprised upnd has welcomed the same old man hh himself at one time insulted wat has changed
Wanyafye Tigers FC
January 14, 2015 at 1:31 pm
This early man has a short memory. Sejani said something similar some years and it affected the party’s fortunes. HH has of late been trying to be inclusive and BOOM! some proconsul spoils things.
IF NOT
January 14, 2015 at 1:23 pm
Shallow minded Munkobwe can come out like that honestly? Why not say a young man for president? Your dream will never happen, over your dead body munkombwe, VIVA PF
kabingo
January 14, 2015 at 1:35 pm
ati HH but people do not know the best candidate.
Tribalist
January 14, 2015 at 1:41 pm
The end of HH and UP and DowN
Kape
January 14, 2015 at 1:53 pm
THIS MAN IS OLD ENOUGH TO SAY SUCH A THING WAIT FOR TUESDAY MR MUNKOMBWA YOU WILL SEE THE SHOCK OF YOUR LIFE, YOU AND YUDA ISCARIOT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE THE PERSON WHO SOLD JESUS I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT THE PIPO THE LATE LEFT ARE YUDA ISCARIOTS YOU WILL SEE AND WHEN OUR PRESIDENT MR EL SC DECLARED WINNER JUST KNOW THAT YOU LOSE YOUR POSITION FOOLISH MAN
monde
January 14, 2015 at 1:57 pm
Mosses did not enter canan and mosses wanomba will see state house but he will not be there. Pliz not all Tongas are like that. if this year is for Tongas why shud other tribes vote for a Tonga. Only pipo like mutati, mangani and Nalumango can folllow HH
mj banda
January 14, 2015 at 1:59 pm
Another tribalist to divide Zambia by implementing the barotse issue
Ndaje Kahks
January 14, 2015 at 2:04 pm
And the crowd gave a thunderous cheer as Uncle announced: IT IS TIME FOR A ………
zakeyo
January 14, 2015 at 2:11 pm
What about Eating Badala ba Danny? Edgar Lungu can feed you the same way KK, Chiluba, Mwanawasa, Sata fed you. That is your philophy – eating!Sorry HH cannot feed you this time around. He has lost the elections; please just call president Lungu next week; he will take care of you and Mulyokela. We are one Zamabia one nation!
Mwansa C.
January 14, 2015 at 2:22 pm
Labeniko ifya tribe. Munkombwe is demented. Ni HH fye.
Ndaje Kahks
January 14, 2015 at 2:26 pm
Eat humble pie
portpher
January 14, 2015 at 2:39 pm
Munkombwe, a tonga bull is now confused, u really are a useless old man who has out-leaved his usefulness! Please just retire u have had too MUCH POLITICS OF THE STOMACH, go and start growing cassava, impwa and keeping goats.
sena
January 14, 2015 at 2:45 pm
Forget about munkombwe, he is useless finished old man. Since is tribal, lets show him on Tuesday how tribal we can be all bembas and tribes from Eastern province vote for edgar. Then lets add Lusaka and Copperbelt. He will die early because of depression.
mwikisa
January 14, 2015 at 2:48 pm
wen we say tonga’s are tribal pipo used to say no,now openly an old BULL munkhombwe has said it openly can we trust tonga’s?
Chanda
January 14, 2015 at 3:03 pm
Toothless munkombwe doomed his political career by biting the finger that feeds…….. i wanted to vote for HH but now i have seen the direction of UPND too much tribalism
…..HH wawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pablo
January 14, 2015 at 3:07 pm
Bukala bwanama Munkomwe Kombwe pamatako stanyako. Tonga Bull ati “Ng’ombe Ilede” kekekeke. Over my rotting body HH to rule Zed atleast not in my lifetime. Wanyaaaaaaaaa!!!!! Chikala
Zick
January 14, 2015 at 3:18 pm
Tongamapo politics I can never vote HH
BEMBA BY BIRTH
January 14, 2015 at 3:55 pm
Umu Bemba nga akalipa takalipa bwino. So HH, capwililika boi even the little votes from us is a non-starter. Let your people vote for you, we will vote for our ECL.
twetwe
January 14, 2015 at 4:05 pm
I voted PF last time as emotion had the better of me. It was PF all the way whether the candidate was grade 5 night school or not …these are same same chaps that never came back to check or drive any developmental agenda after going in & Gon ngaad us.. mediocrity at is highest ! Time has come to board Captain HH20-2015 air mukwi. Soar above tribal politics
Herve Stalin
January 14, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Ba UPND bali nensele unomuku. ba munkombwe ukwita madyenkuku ato mafi ya nkoko. Nenso nakalya
JASON NYIRENDA
January 14, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Too little too late. When we say Tongas are tribalists we mean exactly what Munkombwe said yesterday in Choma. Remember, “Only a Tonga will take over from Mazoka (Tonga)” This unfortunately has continued in UPND. MMD had Wina, Chiluba, Mwanawasa, Banda, and now they have Nevers Mumba, where as UPND has always been lead by a Tonga. Viva Edgar. EL 2015
20.01.15
January 14, 2015 at 5:21 pm
Nyati all these people u have mentioned were previously in govt.Why are they not in govt now?Because they are fools,they are a draw back.When an apostle was being esteemed by a possesed man in acts,he did not embrace him but rather rebuked the demons,but all these people were rejected by the zambians yet u are rejoicing bcoz of these failures.Only a fellow fool can rejoice when a fool is supporting him.Birds of the same furthers flock together
sunga
January 14, 2015 at 5:30 pm
but ba munkombwe i wanted to vote 4 hh,but i have switched back to lungu.I thought u have reformed from being tribalistic.Ubupuba bwakwa hh,how can u allow this shallow minded man to speak on a public rally.Lobe
nshilimubemba
January 14, 2015 at 6:50 pm
Tom you seem not to know whom you are fighting, you are drunk with bemba name and you miss your target; some bembas are in your group you continue to fight those with you .Your opponent is a tumbuka man from the east not bemba as you are mouthing , and eastern province is safely in his hands, most bembas will vote for him because they respect satas choice and their natural friendship;
Rational Brains
January 14, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Munkombwe with his mouth diarrhoea,uwakalema takaleka kikikikikikikki!
e c
January 15, 2015 at 8:26 am
the old man is useless and disgrace
IF NOT
January 15, 2015 at 1:43 pm
VERBAL DIARRHOEA HAS COSTED UPND