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Zambia’s Tribal Mistrust—The Tonga-Bemba Politics
In 1969 , South African popular author Credo Mutwa argued that the Bantu do not forgive and forget. Unlike Jesus who taught that “ If someone slaps you on one cheek , turn to them the other also,” the Bantu will wait until you look the other side before striking your cheek twice as hard, so the prophetic Mutwa argued. Based on this theory, he predicted the Rwanda genocide in which the Hutu tribe rose against the Tutsi in 1994.
The 2015 election clearly showed how the ghost of tribal mistrusts over 50 years ago still haunts us. Kenneth Kaunda’s rise to power and subsequent defeat of Harry M. Nkumbula is definitely behind the ill tribal feelings between the Southerners (Westerners) and Northerners (Easterners). Until 1973, these provinces voted for their own—wako ni wako—the caliber of the leader mattered less.
Let us face it–the 2015 elections shamefully exposed the ethnic divisions in our beloved nation—people voted based on tribal stereotypes. It is shameful that many Bembas denied HH their votes simply because he is Tonga. Similarly, it appalling that the Tongas saw, and come 2016, will see nobody on the ballot but their own–HH. Aside from urban areas, when HH or the PF speak about strongholds, they mean tribal support. To be frank, Zambia’s future is very precarious–we all need to stop and reflect.
On December 30, 2014, right here at Tumfweko, I predicted President Edgar Lungu’s victory based on the number of candidates, the tribal nature of Zambian politics, limited voters and other advantages the PF enjoyed. UPND cadres dismissed my analysis but believed the Malawian Prophet; and for sure, the UPND lost. But the biggest loser in this election is not HH but the MMD and the nation—raising critical questions as to how the Pastor Mumba led Party will reorganize for the 2016 elections. Is this the death of the MMD as a political party? Kaya!
It is too early to conclude that the UPND has penetrated Zambia since the MMD dissolved – it voted for either PF or UPND. While both parties maintained their strongholds, they benefitted from the MMD votes—making the election so competitive. In fact, the minimal gains for the PF in the UPND strongholds and vice versa were mostly due to the MMD votes. So unless the MMD permanently dissolves and joins PF or UPND, the outcome of 2016 elections is any one’s guess.
The small “margin” of the PF victory may be taken to mean that HH will easily win the 2016 elections, which is a myth. Unlike the 2015 elections, the 2016 tripartite elections will introduce new voters while Councilors, MPs, and the President will be campaigning for their jobs. Thus, we expect much higher voter turnout than 2015. Besides, as the adoption of MPs draws near, some rebel MPs who endorsed EL or HH may be forced to switch sides in 2016, or go independent if they are not adopted. And if we demand 50 + 1, small parties will play a critical role in the outcome of the 2016 elections.
Justice Irene Mambilima was right—if the election was stolen from HH, UPND was part of it. This does not mean HH must concede. But if his case rests solely on the Muvi TV and Zambian Watchdog pollsters, then he should fire his strategists. In our 50 years history, no presidential candidate has won by 82%. Frankly, normal social scientists would have dismissed such polls with ultimate contempt.
Relatedly, the 2015 elections exposed the inanity of Zambia’s electoral rules. The Zambian soccer team, for example, is flying the national flag at the Africa Cup of Nations. However, the entire entourage was denied the right to vote. Similarly, all those in diplomatic positions or resident in other parts of the world were disqualified from casting their votes. As we move towards the 50 + 1 vote in 2016, one vote can make a difference between losing or winning the election.
Justice Mambilima’s request for extra powers for the Electoral Commission of Zambia needs supporting, but so does the electorate. Post-jubilee Zambia needs to make voting easy. Out of 5,166,084 registered voters, less than a third (1,671,662) voted. In Raised Hopes, Shattered Dreams, I argue that our electoral rules are anti-voter friendly, anti-student, and disqualify many people from casting their ballots. The country does not allow early or absentee voting, but requires people to vote in person and to go back to where they registered to cast their votes. Besides, why should we continue to waste money on voters’ cards—is the National Registration Card not enough?
Madam Mambilima, time has come to make voting easy—every qualified citizen needs extra powers to access the ballot!
By Rev. Canon Dr. Kapya John Kaoma
Posted by Kunda
on January 27, 2015. Filed under LATEST NEWS.
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Munyelo Pwete!
January 27, 2015 at 12:21 pm
Leave the Great People of Lubemba out of this nonsense! Bemba people are great. They are very flexible and can easily mingle and marry from any tribe! They can survive in any part of this country, Africa and the world at large! Interesting enough, a Bemba chap can even survive on Planet Mars!
Intense lover
January 27, 2015 at 1:03 pm
Mrs. Jere, PS, Ministry of Justice, please advertise the draft constitution in Three daily newspapers, Zambia Daily Mail, Times of Zambia and Zambia Daily Nation. Also for Zambians in diaspora you may please advertise on Lusaka Times, Tumfweko and Zambia Reports.
SUPERHUMAN
January 27, 2015 at 5:00 pm
You are very dull…your clearly IQ is just above that of a chimpanzee
Munyelo Pwete!
January 27, 2015 at 7:53 pm
Chikala chobe! You should stop ukunyenga ingombe because those are very stu.pid manners! Iam sure you are feeling the impact of being a Tonga Villager from Dundumwezi! Wake up mumbwamumbwa iwe! Waba ipuli ukufita!
Tanny
January 28, 2015 at 9:27 am
You are a useless fool who has no right to live!
Telemundo
January 27, 2015 at 7:32 pm
When your paramount chief was being hounded by the PF government led by the late MCS, you never showed that you were great. To day your chief has been recognised but this recognition has only come after the full participation of one sefless tonga man who stated earlier that he would easily do so once elected president.So what are u talking about? For your own info I am Kaonde Lunda but born and brought up in Kabwe.
peddle
January 28, 2015 at 7:58 am
EVEN JESUS IN SOUTHERN PROVINCE CAN’T WIN AGAINST A TONGA.
THESE GUYS ARE JUST TRIBAL AND YOU CAN’T DEFEND IT.
WANU NGWEE
January 28, 2015 at 11:40 am
STOP IMPOSING YOUR VIEWS ON ZAMBIANS: PEOPLE FROM ALL APRTS OF ZAMBIA FALL IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER EVERYDAY, BECOME FRIENDS, EAT AND DRINK TOGETHER EVERYDAY AND CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH EACH OTHER EVERYDAY. THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE EVER SINCE AND NO ONE SHOULD INCITE VIOLENCE AND SENSETIONALISE THE TRIBAL ISSUE NOW. DO YOU KNOW THAT THE VOTING PATTERNS OF THE LAST ELECTION SHOW ONLY THE OPNION OF 1.6MILLION VOTERS OUT OF A POPULATION OF 14MILLION PEOPLE???? COME GUYS, GET SANE!
bonky
January 27, 2015 at 12:27 pm
Bedazzled article Reveland.
True
January 27, 2015 at 12:30 pm
not only that they are loved by Tonga ladies
Katongo, Chiti, Nkole, Chilufya, Chanda, Bwalya,
January 27, 2015 at 12:46 pm
Bemba
PRONUNCIATION: BEM-bah
LOCATION: Northeastern Zambia
POPULATION: 4 million Bemba (or Bemba-speaking)
The Bemba came to their present location during the great Bantu migrations of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. They organized themselves into a loosely united government. At its head was a paramount chief, known as Chitimukulu (the Great Tree), and he was served by subchiefs belonging to the royal Crocodile clan. The Bemba were seen as a warlike and fearsome people by early European travelers and explorers.
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 4:27 pm
Ba kaboke
Chipata=Cleverland. Kasama=Kutumpaland
January 27, 2015 at 6:40 pm
Itizi tulu. Tubemba tuli very flexible. That is why it is easy to say Natolafye after stealing. Some other people when they are caught stealing niku vitaya chabe notamanga. Bembas talk their way out of a situation
IF NOT
January 27, 2015 at 12:48 pm
Bembas are free to mingle with anybody and have no boundaries.
titolombe
January 27, 2015 at 12:59 pm
its not correct to keep quite thinking all is well.what has been shown in the last election is a sad thing.i hear one saying Bembas are tribal no no no its not true………but people should just come out and mention the Southerners,Westerners and North westerners their voting wasnt objective but Subjective.If Bembas were Tribal they would have voted for :Eric Chanda,Nevers Mumba,Daniel Pule or Elias Chipimo…but they gave votes to both HH and Lungu of the two, no one is Bemba.Call a spade to be a spade and a folk as a folk not calling a folk spade and otherwise.Let us all condemn this kind of voting were one can get zero-0 and the other 10,000 nononono……..runaway from this kind of a shameful type of voting………………..i rest my case
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 1:43 pm
Note that 2016 it will all be zero, zero, zero. You will be tired to see our faces. You won’t get us out of the race. You are just drawing a bad card.
Utunyonga ndimi
January 27, 2015 at 1:00 pm
Nakanda na kabushe
1
Bashifwe bakale tabalelemba
2
Shukutu shukutu
3
Nafwa tata ee
4
Fonkofonko
5
Shula wilashula cula
6
Ukushama nashama
7
Citico
8
Bashicanga
14
Konkola
15
Mwilye
16
Mu mukanda
17
Isenga
19
Mbalaka
21
Ababemba
22
Inshimba
23
Kalulu mumpashanya
9
Tulekashola
11
Cilcmba mukulu
12
Akambali mpako
13
Inondo Nonde nasenda
24
Utu tubantu
26
Lesa kasongole kalalila
27
apparatchick
January 27, 2015 at 1:07 pm
THE ONLY TIME YOU WILL HAVE MEANINGFUL SHARE OF THE
NATIONAL CAKE IS WHEN YOUR FATHER ASCENDS TO HIGH
OFFICE.
KEEP DREAMING.
NYD
January 27, 2015 at 1:08 pm
this tribal allegations ,if not checked and addressed will this country in mess one day.
youngblood
January 27, 2015 at 1:22 pm
iwe asembe wankala che quiet other than expressing your failures lamentably with your idiotic artical. Facts HH polled 272,182 votes in southern province while EL polled 20,937. in northern province EL POLLED 94,169 while HH polled 21,287. your words (let us face it–the 2015 elections shamefully exposed the ethnic divisions in our beloved nation—people voted based on tribal stereotypes. It is shameful that many Bembas denied HH their votes simply because he is Tonga. Similarly, it appalling that the Tongas saw, and come 2016, will see nobody on the ballot but their own–HH. Aside from urban areas,)are very biased coz tongas have showed us that you vote only for your tribes men You fool the margin by which Tongas voted is nowhere near that of the bembas. Stupid idiot, foolish artical. are you just starting in your journalism career get your facts right before you display your ignorance
zakeyo
January 27, 2015 at 2:06 pm
We need new leaders to emerge from Southern province ;The Like of HH, Mukombwe and recently VJ have failed to rise above tribal grounds. How about the likes of siguluma,Mweene etc? Yes footballers!
may
January 27, 2015 at 2:08 pm
By the way Lungu is not Bemba so how do you bring the Bembas in this issue, for information Nevers Mumba stood and failed he is bemba, did the bembas vote for him no so what are you talking?
Washeni
January 27, 2015 at 5:26 pm
Just wondering why the Bembas are blamed when Lungu is not Bemba but blaming Willie Nsanda, yet there were many other Bembas who supported other candidates. Apathy in Bembaland was loud enough but at the end of the day they are still insulted for being tribal. Nevers the true Bemba was humiliated – do we still call that as tribalism!
Hambz
January 28, 2015 at 8:03 am
the bembas are blamed as it is believed by many shallow minded people that pf was adopted by bembas as other shallow minded people believe UPND was adopted by tongas or its for tongas.
DULL TONGAA APATHY
January 27, 2015 at 2:09 pm
Reverend conman DR Kapya John what ever you call your self or what ever the Tongas call you,please stop pretending that you are a bemba by using bemba names we know you are not.Whilist you and your leader are in the stupor state the rest of the Zambian tribes are in a CAMARADERIE state.
We voted for Lungu who is not a bemba and we also extended our gesture of good will by voting for your vulgar abominable and venal leader of yours.
Come 2016 we will use the BEMBA incredible versatility to see PF in power again and again.
Finally we saw your true veneer come out in the voting pattern
Enjoy the PAS DE DEUX while PF & Edgar keeps on singing and playing the babatones for you
By the way HH is a FREE MANSON in other words SATANIST Kikikikikikikikikik Ala tefintu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 2:21 pm
2016 we the southerners will still vote en masse for HH because we know he is far better than any other current party leader. You will see more zeros and it will hurt you more. Your small monkey like brains will not even imagine it. Mwaba ukulya ba kolwe (baboons).
Kapanga
January 27, 2015 at 3:45 pm
Na kolwe nao munani
kangwa
January 27, 2015 at 5:06 pm
Mweemba ULI CHIPUBA.out of 10 provinces HH only won 3 provinces .southern and their cousins western and northwestern koz he managed to manipulate these provinces.they were many tongas on the copperbelt hu voted for PF KOZ ON THE COPPERBELT we are mixed and non tribal.ask yoself y HH was rejected on the copperbelt if at all he has sense in his mind?
Mubiana S.
January 27, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Mweemba ULI CHIPUBA.southern votes wont hurt us koz HH was rejected by 7 provinces.only 3 provinces gave him thiose high numbers.copperbelt women have promised to register their children in high numbers and vote to block this Tonga tribalist HH from goin into state house.
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 5:59 pm
So mwebachenjela ba mubiana. Why are you complaining about votes from southern province if it has no effect. Bukolwe nshilya ine. Bukolwe tekuchenjela. You will be tired of seeing our faces and you will never get us out of the race. UPND is more formidable party than PF who are actually in power and can get almost same votes my brainless one you better realise. Wait for 2016 and your will support my thought brainless.
shakuni
January 27, 2015 at 2:26 pm
They call Tongas stupid and hail all sorts of degenerating insults and do not accept them as equals in governance, may be this country is better off with only easterners and northerners who think they are superior. Sudan way maybe the answer
John
January 27, 2015 at 4:02 pm
PLEASE IN DEMOCRACY IT IS THE NUMBERS THAT MATTERS. WHETHER SOMEBODY IS FOOLISH OR DULL THE MAJORITY WINS. IF HH THINKS HE THE ONLY INTELLIGENT LEADER IN ZAMBIA THAN OTHERS LET HIM FIND A FORMULA TO WIN THE HEARTS OF MAJORITY PERIOD. HOW DO YOU WIN HEARTS OF MAJORITY? ASK THOSE WHO HAVE WON ELECTIONS BEFORE.
DULL TONGAA APATHY
January 27, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Mwaba ukupema amasushi ya n’gombe ba Mweemba 666 freemanson
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 4:31 pm
That is how Mwefipuba, Mwembulamano mwe ba Bemba mwaba. Mwakulachula fye no kulya bakolwe na mano echo yabela aya bukolwe.
cecilia
January 27, 2015 at 2:47 pm
Its a pity tht instead of preaching peace all am seeing is insults. Bembas en tongas like wise hv to settle ths tribe thing. Th issues of solving tribal difference wt insults is getting us no where. Can we b more objective en diplomatic as we handle this issue coz its very serious. Above all maturity has to b at the center everything we do ths way its easy to compromise and reach an understanding
Mula
January 27, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Point Of Correction, Edger Lungu Is Not A Bemba. Why Are Bembas On The Subject Here? Nevers Mumba Is A Bemba But They Didnt Vote For Him. What Are You Saying? Its The Tongas Who Denied Edger Lungu Votes Because He Is Not A Tonga. Do You Have Eyes Or You See Using Your Ears? To Be Honest, Tongas Have Shown The All Zambia How To Vote. This Demon Tongas Has Recreated Will Show Its True Colour In 2016. They Say Once Beaten Twice Shy. We Wont Turn The Other Chick, Will Just Beat Harder. Watch 2016 Elections.
juju
January 27, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Voting through figure prints,you vote twice,( reject) like an ATM behaves when there is no money in an account.
Voter
January 27, 2015 at 3:30 pm
I am a Bemba and I voted for UPND. My voting for HH was purely based on what the man can deliver and not necessarily the tribe.I am disappointed with those who are trying to label the bembas as tribal or more tribal than the other tribes. The numbers are their to show and it is plain even to the blind that Southerners were only voting for HH purely because he was their kind. Are you telling me EL or anyother candidates were not even close to what HH could offer as far as Southerners were concerned. Lets face it bane Tongas are just inborn tribalists. Bembas are flexible and accomodating, they never fear competition like other tribes and as Munyelo pwete as put it can survive anywhere. Imagine I tel my fellow bembas that I voted for HH and the most the do to me is just laugh and joke about it, but if it was a Tonga saying he voted for EL and his tribesmen heard of it the can almost banish him from the ‘village’
Sibongile Mulenga
January 27, 2015 at 3:30 pm
I wonder why we keep on fighting instead of focusing on what is next. Why should we keep on reading the same chapter. Hey lets forge ahead and think of what will become of us as individuals tomorrow.
shimucita panono
January 27, 2015 at 3:45 pm
Bembas and Tongas should be tribal cousins also. It seems they are fighting a war of words here. Elections are over, lets talk about developmental issues now. How do we develop Zambia? Aikona ifyama Nega-Nega formula here…twakana ba sityopeti
Mpalush
January 28, 2015 at 10:57 am
Please be careful with this TRIBALISM THING, you are playing with fire. The peace we have enjoyed all these years may vanish like water vapour. With God there is no Jew nor Gentile, no bemba, nor Tonga. If you are a Christian desist from such sentiments. Anyway looking at the insults flying, I doubt if the bloggers hold God in high esteem. It is sad for a person to blasphemy and say, ‘Even Jesus cannot win in Southern Province.’ Check your words
tupac
January 27, 2015 at 3:56 pm
Its here i said bembas make up half of the population of zambia and are known to be kingmakers however lungu isnt bemba but nsenga there4 talking about bembas simply shows that you ve acknowledged that this tribe is more superior than other tribes.
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 4:25 pm
Bembas will never be more superior than any other tribe. It is actually the worst in this country. You brainless to be proud of a tribe which is known to be ba kabolala, ba kabwalala, mbala, masholi etc. Now you know your place.
Munyelo Pwete!
January 27, 2015 at 5:00 pm
A Bemba person will always move with his head high whereever he will go! We are not afraid of challenges and if opportunities are found in Southern, Western or Northwestern provinces a Bemba person will go and you will recognize him by his language, friendliness nokushita ubwalwa bad!
Mingle with a Bemba person and you are blessed! Ngawapwalala he will ‘get’your socks while you are putting on your shoes!
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 6:07 pm
Efyo mwaba mweba Bemba. So if us Tongas do not want to associate with you then you must ask the question why. Imwe mumona kwati nga waibila umunobe ninshi wachenjela ukuchila ena. Ni bukolwe. Mukaleke ukulya fikolwe mwefibantu imwe mwilatusebanya fwe bena Zambia. Sorry mwandi mwe ba Bemba mwalibafye bwino Bye and I will no longer be here. My wife is actually Bemba and I love her very much. However stop irritating the Tongas See you 2016.
Mundetele
January 27, 2015 at 5:11 pm
Chi Mweemba 777 the great tribalist. I work for a successful oil company in the diaspora. I am a Bemba woman and I have never stolen in the 15 years I have worked here. My younger brother is a lecturer of Economics and a graduate of Oxford university, a Bemba. We are therefore not brainless and we are not thieves either. Your xenophobic approach to a social deviant behaviour like thieving speaks alot about your ignorance as an individual.
Further, your tribal rantings are painful to ears of all normal human beings. Please get a life and stop hurting so much. You poor little man!
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 6:02 pm
You are a rare Bemba
SUPERHUMAN
January 27, 2015 at 6:09 pm
FIRST OF ALL NOBODY ASKED YOU ABOUT YOUR BRO, OR WHERE YOU WORK…YOU BRITISH BUM CLEANER (BBC) AND WHEN YOU AINT CLEANING AZZHOLES OF OLD CHAPS, YOU ARE SELLING PUCY…GET THE FAC OUT HERE…WHAT IS OXFORD GOT TO DO WITH THESE POSTINGS…FOR YOUR OWN DIGESTION, I WORK FOR OXFORD…AS ASSOCIATE PROF, TEACHING AND RESEARCHING IN ECONOMETRICS..GIVE ME YOUR BRO’S NAME WE SETTLE IT ONCE AND FOR ALL. TIRED PUCY
SUPERHUMAN
January 27, 2015 at 6:18 pm
NOW THAT TESCO IS CLOSING MANY BRANCHES WHERE YOU USED TO SHELF VEGETABLES FOR 6 QUID AN HOUR…CAPITALISE ON PUCY SELLS BEFORE IT LOSES ITS ELASTICITY
Mushota
January 28, 2015 at 3:14 am
Super man are you really an academic? with that sort of language? I think that institution that has hired you needs to re visit its recruitment strategy.
Nalungwe
January 27, 2015 at 3:59 pm
could someone please write a true article on this matter coz these articles make sad reading not to mention the strife that they want to incite. What is the objective of the article to bring together or split? Please lets forget this and advise the new President especially on the cabinet of Minsters. I for one do not want to see the elderly folks. Let them rest. Get people who can deliver like Mwanawasa did. Our President has a chance to live like a legend as Mwanawasa did or to live us in misery. We know this wont be easy but please think about it.
Ndaseka Ine
January 27, 2015 at 4:17 pm
Has he not already given you an elderly folk as VP?
Email
January 27, 2015 at 4:28 pm
Mmd was founded by ftj_frm mwense,mst say he was close to bemba,all de same left it to mwanawasa_lamba.sata founded pf_bemba..Lungu frm eastern took over..upnd by the late mazoka_southerner,taken over who….?frm tis uwakwata amano ii tel which party is anchoured by tribalism.after hh nimunkombwe
Nandime
January 27, 2015 at 4:29 pm
@ Nalwange,
How can they can rid off all the elderly, it wouldn’t be wise. Have yu forgotten that story of a foolish king who got rid of all the old people, they got into a problem they couldn’t solve
cecilia
January 27, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Even I speak of settling th difference am bemba. I want to fully acknowledge th fact tht lungu is easterner. My point comes in coz I hv seen suddenly dust raising btn bembas en tonga. Am nt tribal en in th eyes of God we at th same level. Every well meaning zambia would want to think of wats next in uniting our country. I personally love tongas like truly.
kangwa
January 27, 2015 at 4:58 pm
Leave Bembas out of the tribal talk.HH polled 3,500 in kasama,yet polled 2000 in Nkana constituency in kitwe.Nkana constituency is the kitwe town center constituency.3,500 Bembas in Kasama voted for HH koz Bembas are non tribal.yet in Kitwe central a mixed area of educated pipo,he only managed 2000.Why should mixed tribes of Kitwe reject HH,yet he polls better in Kasama?koz Bembas are not tribal.
SUPERHUMAN
January 27, 2015 at 5:10 pm
I pity zambians. I think the level of understanding things is very low among many including the so called educated ones (functional illiterates). They think HH is the loser. A zambian is used to poverty, buying second hand cloths, pants and vehicles…you all should be ashamed midiocres and will continue suffering.Continue being dull and u will continue suffering and seeking solace on social media platform incubating hatred
Mundetele
January 27, 2015 at 5:18 pm
What contribution did you make by telling Zambians that they are the losers? Zambians voted and gotb the resulkt they desired, though the result is not acceptable by you from your anger.
If HH had won, he is not a magician and the poor among our Zambians would still be struggling even as we spend money on internet services arguing.
I assure you that Zambians will only come out of poverty through deliberate hard work and grabbing of economic opportunities as they present. No politician alive will put food and buy designer clothes for Zambians. So Mr.Superhuman, stop the rantings and get busy building your life and that of your children.
SUPERHUMAN
January 27, 2015 at 5:37 pm
YOU ARE WORSE THAN ANAL DIARRHEA..EVEN AN AZZHOLE KNOWS WHERE TO SHIT…AND YOU MUST HAVE GROWN UP PRACTICING CANNIBALISM ON MONKEYS BECAUSE MY DIAGNOSTICS CLEARLY SHOWS YOU ARE A CHIMPANZEE IN KOLWESTAN ZOO…UPGRADE YOUR FACKN IQ BEFORE YOU DEVELOP ANY AUDACITY TO STRIKE A KEYBOARD…AZZHOLES
SUPERHUMAN
January 27, 2015 at 5:43 pm
THIS IS MY CONTRIBUTION MR MUNDETELE….GET A DEGREE ATLEAST BEFORE EXHIBITING IDIOCY WITH SUCH LEVELS OF IQ…AZZHOLE
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 5:51 pm
I like the Kolwestan. I will use it more often.
mwale BS
January 27, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Am urging all bembas and easterners to vote in great numbers come 2016 so that EL continues.southerners started this war and we wil help them to govern . Governance is only for….while cattle rearing is a talent given by God to……
SUPERHUMAN
January 27, 2015 at 5:30 pm
You have amazed me…I mean you have made my day…I have never come a across a human being with so small an IQ like yours…just be frank what type of creature are you??
tiger
January 27, 2015 at 5:17 pm
Some people from this tribe are brainwashed and can’t see outside the box. Mumba, chanda, nawakwi, Chipimo etc are bemba who got less than HH in their home regions. Which candidate got more than HH in SouthernN , western and northwestern. Only a fool can’t read between the lines!
Kangwa
January 27, 2015 at 5:17 pm
HH will never enter state house.if copperbelt and lusaka can reject him,then wat kind of man is this.in kitwe HH got as little as 1000 in wusakile,2000 in kitwe town center.why shud a cosmopolitan town like kitwe with educated pipo and a university reject HH?this chap is not presidential.continue voting for him u tongas.
Mweemba7777
January 27, 2015 at 5:47 pm
HH has not been in Govt my brainless man but he managed to get about half from those two provinces. Next time it will be more than that.
kaybee
January 27, 2015 at 5:20 pm
we have heared a lot of your comments.
George
January 27, 2015 at 5:21 pm
HH got 3500 votes in kasama,yet Lungu got 400 votes in namwala.so hu are tribalists between tongas and Bembas.mind u Lungu is not Bemba.HH was rejected by 7 provinces and only won in 3 provinces were he wa preaching hatred against Bembas.
zed
January 27, 2015 at 5:24 pm
Mind u the small margin has scared copperbelt residents hu hav always rejected tribal HH.SO KUM 2016 COPPERBELT HAVE PROMISED TO VOTE IN LARGE NUMBERS SO PF continues.VIVA PF
twetwe
January 27, 2015 at 5:34 pm
This nonsense of superiority can never go unchallenged. You must never allow to sink so deep and yet too shallow in verbal filth to talk about these issues given the fact about this part of the country before the great migrations. Even then, today its ONE ZAMBIA ONE GREAT NATION … ZAMBIA IS A CHRISTIAN NATION the list goes on. Do you ever practice the afore said? Or is is to suit a condition and that we have no emotional attachment to? I stand to differ.
tiger
January 27, 2015 at 6:07 pm
Anyway zambia is bigger than a reginal party. Tuka kolopa nafuti 2016 chizamibaba and you will hang yourselves. Viva PF and EL!
tinakez
January 27, 2015 at 6:25 pm
My opinion is that pf is a strong party after realizg that they were disorganzd they quickly came together and organzd themselves and beat upnd so 2016 …….
GG
January 27, 2015 at 7:08 pm
grea pipo of great zambia pliz igno brotha & sistas cod tongas 1 day dey ‘ll change & realize that zambia is not about tongas or bembas bt these otha tribes too.so stop these cheap insults.
Galilea
January 27, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Go to Southern Province and see Tonga people who campaigned for pf. The upnd has never stopped any. They are free to support pf.
Bembas are everywhere in Sinazongwe along Lake Kariba and Maamba mine.
They intermarry and some of them were born there and have never been to bembaland. Some have both parents who died there and insist will also die there. They are bembas of Southern Province. They live along the valley and are well protected by traditional leaders. Nobody has ever marginalised them. They speak both tonga and bemba freely. Go there and see for yourself how they live. Most of them are fishermen.
Most plateau tongas do not live with bembas and can not be friends.
Sinazongwe mp and former mp/minister Madyenkuku support pf. They are used to live with bembas.
Stop tribalism.
pezo
January 27, 2015 at 9:05 pm
we bembas are so much loved by tongas,thats y tonga women always wants to be married to bemba men.If bembas are tribal they wud have voted for Mumba,Chipimo,Pule or Chanda.
Hambz
January 28, 2015 at 7:56 am
you are lying you also!! what tonga women are u talking about? ur cconforting youself?
EK
January 28, 2015 at 1:36 pm
Its true ask Tonga women in the SDA Church. There wish is to marry Bemba men because they are not polygamists.
bbwa2lyapapa
January 27, 2015 at 11:19 pm
Even in the so called campain jingles Dandy enfasized that Ba Sata eo batushile.And for your own information EL never campained he was merely playing that song everywhere he went and Northerners voted according to the message from the song.
twambo
January 27, 2015 at 11:32 pm
Ba mwemba 7777 tamwakwata amano muletumwe ne shamofye. This generation is not the geretion ya bututu we tongas did not do well during elections. EL was voted across the country apart from southrn and western.
Hambz
January 28, 2015 at 7:58 am
ur lying also……wats wrong with u pipo and lies?
Chishimba
January 28, 2015 at 12:49 am
My plea to my fellow Zambians is that, even with HIV/AIDS the more it was spoken about it the more people be came careless, the same with tribalism, the more we slap it on others, so is others to us. It will continue and end up dividing completely our Beloved Country. I beg of you all to talk about Love, Harmony, Peace, kindness to each other, then we shall be burying tribalism. Country men and women if we accuse others by pointing them one figure, the other 3 point on us. in other words “he is tribal then am 3times tribal”. If my contribution doesn’t make sense forgive me please all in the name of our creator.
Mwamba24
January 28, 2015 at 4:33 am
Who are you Ba Tumfweko and what do you want from Zambian people?…. Blood???? You seen to be agitating genocide in Zambia….
jb
January 28, 2015 at 8:06 am
Zambians let’s face it. The issue of tribal politics is inevitable as long as the 73 tribes exist in our land.
Some of the things we should do to trash tribalism:
1. Encourage families to engage in inter-marriages
2. Remove the “village”, “chief” concept in indicating where someone comes from (we’re all Zambians regardless the place of birth)
3. Propose a phrase on inclusive governance in the constitution
GREG KADIMBA
January 28, 2015 at 8:38 am
The only person who has said a correct thing is MAY.If bembas where tribal,why didnt they vote for Nevers Mumba instaed of Lungu?.ANSWER!
MUM
January 28, 2015 at 9:38 am
Suggestion.
Let the tongas be the tribal cousins to the Bembas since the easterners and notherners are now together. Tell me. Tongas are very good and receptive people, especially their women. Ask Mmembe.
damsonngosa
January 28, 2015 at 1:57 pm
want happened in ZAMBIA RAILWAYS THE TIME THE CANADIANS LEFT U SAY TONGAS ARE TRIBAL FM L\STONE TO CHILILABOMBWE ALL STATION MGRS WERE FM SOUTH AND REGION MGRS ALL 3 THE SAME TRIBE INCLUDING THE GM+SECURITY MAN WAS THE SOUTH,I EDGE TO FORM ANOTHER PARTY IN SOUTHERN MAY U MIGHT RULE.YOUR PEOPLE ARE DIFFICULT WHY U GO IN BARS AND CLUBS U CAMPAINGN IN YOUR LANGUAGE.YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL LADIES THE MUTINNTAS,BUT MEN YOU DISAPPOINTS ME.IT WLLL SAME IN 2016 AS LONG YOU HAVE FREEMASON IN FRONT