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POLICE IMPREGNATING 30 PUPILS, A SHAME TO THE NATION!!
Good afternoon Editor,
Editor i write on my organisations and indeed my own behalf to add a voice to the nation through your media on reports about the police officers having impregnated 30 girls during there camping in Mongu in january 2011.
This news really is a sad development as it is not only a blow to the campaign against the spread of HIV/AIDSand other sexually transmitted diseases but also the future of our young girls in Mongu western province. This directly mean that neither the officers and the girls used the condoms during their sexually ancounters hence the risk of getting the disease and other STIs is very high. Our hope is that all the girls that were involved underwent counseling and testing for them to know there status after these activities.The nation should not just think it is these 30 that engaged in sexualy activities with the officers but the numbers are very high as some could have engaged in unsafe abortions or did not get pregnant at all.
It is however, not a suprise to us taking into consideration they high levels of infedility among the men and women in uniforms in all ranks be in the police, army and all e.g among the mobile officers at scanze, emmasdale e.t.c. We therefore would like to make an enerst appeal to the officer to seriously reconsider their ways and be the good examples in society. As a matter of fact, these are the law enforcers so what kind of picture are they showing. We see also that a number of young men and women in schools desire to join the defence force and we need to inspire them positively and not icalcate in them that once you are there then it means being on rampage sleeping around with ladies or men. We further urge the government through the inspector general and all army commanders to come up with some better ways through which work for the men in uniforms will be less stressful because stress could as well be a reason for these activities.
We further and on the other hand wish to call upon the young people to take it easy and sober up to safe guard their lives and futures. In our recent tour of mongu, it is indeed a sad story to note the levels of promiscuity among our people in mongu, however, we feel the levels of poverty could be a contributing factor, and knowing very well that the officers had some ration monies, t was time to cash in and get a living for some. But also how do you camp officers on the girls school; you cant put ” IMBUSHI MUPEPI NECHIMENA”.
On the punishment of the officers, we believe that thorogh invetsigations be done because you would be shocked to learn that all these were based on agreements btween the officers and the girls , which could be as aluded to earlier the fact of poverty. If it be the case, then all matters should be sorted by the families and individual officers but of course the police command should help with the identification process.
We believe that with consented efforts we shall win the battle against HIV/AIDS.
Kind Regards
Martin C. Mulenga
C.E.O- Sibonginkhosi Foundations
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mute
March 19, 2012 at 3:41 pm
sad sorry.
True bantustans:
March 19, 2012 at 3:50 pm
imagine all the police oficers are bemba. why bembas alwayz in scandoz in mpika they killed a one year 6 months old they staved the child to death in the name of fasting. are they not bembas in mpika district of muchinga province, so bana bwesu lets be serious.chao
immediatley
March 19, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Well spoken statement.May I add that the police command must help identify the officer and apply the rules in the police, am sure there is some form of acceptable behavioral standards in that profession or code of conduct which attracts certain penalties once breeched. But if some girls are 16 years and below then they must be charged with defilement. It’s a very sad development; police were supposed to protect and not to take advantage of the volatile situation to pounce on the girls -shame on the police!
Tupac
March 19, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Tumfweko u ve stopped putting ma comments why?Njimone iyi comment or else?To the subject,i think it’s bad for the country as civil servants we need to conduct ourselves tulesebanya icaalo.
MR BEAN
March 19, 2012 at 4:02 pm
U POLICE OFFICERS YOU ARE REALY HE-GOATS, HOW DO YOU RAPE SCHOOL GIRLS ? BAFIKALA YOU MUST HAND OVER YOURSELVES TO THE WESTERN PROVINCE ELDERS WITHIN 48HRS ORELSE WIL USE WITCH CRAFT WITH THE HELP OF THE LAPTOP FROM THIS BEMBA FELLOW KATELE TO FISH YOU OUT FROM HIDING PLACES. SHAME ON YOU . CORRUPT PIGS. BAFIKALA WILL BRING DOGS TO ASS **** YOU..
Nandibo Mpoosepo
March 19, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Yaba, ba Chief Executive Officer ichisungu chashupa ka! Anyhow even if it was consensual, the cops still have to be punished, going on a rampage the way they did is indiscipline of the highest order and lack of self control among people who are expected to maintain order and looked at for protection!
So mwalamona “True Matako” alatampa ukusula ifyanunka apa ati ba PF when things happened before they came into power!
MR BEAN
March 19, 2012 at 4:09 pm
CAN THE COMMISION RELEASE THE NAMES OF ALL THE POLICE ****** THAT WHERE IN MONGU SO THAT WE START SOUGHTING THEN OUT ONE BY ONE. EE THIS COUNTRY IS CASED AND WE PRAYER TO CHANGE THE HAPENIG . POLICE HAS BECOME VERY USELESS.
Facts are Facts
March 19, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Most of the officers who went there are from Mobile Unit and Para-military and these officers move from one place to the other hence most of them are HIV positive.The sad part is that the girls were not only impregnanted but also infected with the deadly HIV virus.To Police officers honestly how can you be so careless and indulge yourselves in unprotected sex?This shows how unfaithful you are to spouses.Nowonder there is high rate of deaths in the camps and barracks.
mwisho kaps
March 19, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Those girls are old and capable of making decisions to concert to sex or not, meaning there was no rap case. They have had sex at their homes before meaning they can hav HIV/AIDs and infact them infecting officers. So blame the two parties not the police alone. Talk of defilement and not pregnancies because there was concert regardless of their social economical status. Asking who to identify who? Imposible and shear worst of tym. Punushing a COP. why? What for. There is no offence in impregnating a school going person and the only issue is to ask those involved to negotiate for MARRIAGES. As long as those children are above the age of 16, were not raped, there is no crime. HIV/AIDS is two way traffic. im sorry to the families of those involved, otherwise these are my views
Observer
March 19, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Iwe Bantustan, you really are a very sad person. What is wrong with you useless people like the likes of you, HH and now Milupi. Can;t you discuss anything anything sensibly without lamping it to the tribal tag? Who tells you that the police officers who committed that attrocity were bembas? you must be very shallow minded, Kamfinsa police training school is not for people from Bemba land, IT IS A NATIONAL TRAINING SCHOOL FOR THE PARA MILLITARY POLICE, and these people come from everywhere in the country. I thought Milupi had better brains than HH, but now I see that he is just as useless and irrelevant to the politics of this country as HA HA. Let us just focus on what happened objectively. what those police officers did was wrong and they need to be investigated and circumstances established under which those acts were committed. Indeed, it is not every sexual act which results in a pregnancy which should be seen as defilement. Mind you, it may not be too far fetched to learn and see that some of those girls may have easily presented themselves to the police officers and may have enticed sex from them. Which again goes to show that it is not everything seemingly bad which happens and affects the so called “girl child” is infringed upon the girls, some of these girls ask for them unfortunately. It is time empowerment was taught and girls taught that they should not foolishly parade themselves a s sex objects in circumstances where they place themselves vulnerable to boys or men. They must learn to take measures of self protection and restraint. This has nothing to do with any tribal tag of any sort. It is just common sense. But of course I see that Bantustan and his likes do not have it, it is not common to them, how unfortunate!
miyoba
March 19, 2012 at 5:06 pm
there is always that one cunt who has to make thngs about tribes.shame!
Fault Finder
March 19, 2012 at 5:13 pm
How many cops impregnated those 30 girls? I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that it only two Lozi bulls. And it was “gold rush” for the girls who would opt for marriage rather than “worst” time in school.
Double atm
March 19, 2012 at 5:17 pm
bushe wea does it say that these were bembas wen sumwea in the letter it states that the police command shud help in theidentification process to me this means that the officers aint known as at now…Ba Mulenga give us the names sinsi you knw that these officers are bemba..
Ogle Mwale
March 19, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Bantustan iwe ***** why cant you try to be mature for once? Tribe should not be a subject of discussion in this era. Such issue are perpetuated by the shallow chikala wake up!
nakferd
March 19, 2012 at 5:24 pm
i havent for one even when the first article on this issue was released read any post projecting to the welbeing of the yet to be street kids.now, police officers not only have they gone on such a rampage but this seems to be an on going endeavor though minimal at its ignorable level.most women victims have had been abused to extreems for their cases to go in their favor at the police.indiscipline of such levels by the military officers is escalating to levels of intolerable yet the government does little with:they are adults who agreed. in some areas of our society you cant talk a school girl her pants.work on these stupie men at once.
Pa Bwato
March 19, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Sad indeed. Worse off the Govt & Police are bloody mute. Shameful
chief analyst
March 19, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Let me get the facts clearly, are u guys saying the cops were allowed to camp at a girls school with the gals present? Sad indeed!! These gals were equally sexually starved jst like our men and women in uniform so it was a sex pwando even amongst themselves. Soon u will hear names like lungowe bwalya, sitali kasonde, kabonde nasilele. I guess its a good development for the BRE
Papa_Mokonzi
March 19, 2012 at 6:07 pm
1.No rape was reported
2.Its not only officers who slept with doz girls in dat area
3.Alot of pipo died so officer helped to replace doz who died
4.Girl move half naked in readness for cheap sex so officer managed to give dem what dey asked4
5.U re blaming officer but in mongu 3kotaz of de girls prostitute,what measure are put in place 2 stop diz girls
Coward
March 19, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I feel that this issue is being prejudiced.Lets wait for cabinet to decide what course of action is to be taken as this came out in the commission of enquiry.I have experienced boarding school life having been at a male sch. for 5years.The excitement that is created by the presence of the oposite sex is unimaginable.I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that 90% of those cases came out through consensual sex.The levels of mastabation and sexual imorarity in these boarding schools is had to believe.When we went for provincial games,thats the time we had real sex…
All am trying to say is lets analyse all the circumstances before we crucify the police and be judged accrdingly.
Pioneer
March 19, 2012 at 6:25 pm
DNA samples should be collected from all the cops who were deployed at Limulunga High School and matched with the victims’. All those who committed those immoral crimes must be castrated using broken pieces of glass before they are caged.
1 sabala
March 19, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Awe bane, ilyashi ili taliweme. These girls have no dignity whatsoever. Instead of going to school busy tule iswila amolu noku fulamina ba kapokola. Tule fwala nama mini skirt pakuti batufwaye elo batuchite
Proud
March 19, 2012 at 8:04 pm
@tru bantufimofimo u r dul. Y do u lik divertin items 2 us bembas. U jst show ur stupidity. U shud knw that ur comments r nt upbuildin bt provoking. Thanx observe 4 th comment
SHARP SHOOTER
March 19, 2012 at 8:11 pm
@ observer and coward you debate issues so nicely thumbs up. Now @ bantustan my bro go back to the watchdog were they allow you to be tribal. Cant you even be ashamed of yourself everything you talk about is always against the bembas you are a disgrace to the southern province. I feel so ashamed when my japan room mate asks of what that means. I stay with a bemba and japanese friend and we are so united and always their for each other. Whats wrong witt you *****?
derrick
March 19, 2012 at 9:16 pm
the is no harm in those policemen impregnanting those girls coz there re no reports of defiment nor rape but consented sex.this just goes to show how morally decayed this part of our country is.hh nd milupi should instill morals there nd aliviate povert levels instead of puting the blame on bembas.u just reporting on girl when even some of yr wives were seen partronising the same tents where the police used to camp asking for sex
abyei
March 19, 2012 at 9:50 pm
too bad indeed,but we shud know that its not only police officers or uniformed pipo at the center of infidelity but all.chiluba misbehaved as president,was he police? shakafuswa did as minister was he president? Dora did was she police,vernon mwaanga was he police,felix mutati is he police,was Bill clinton police,iris kaingu is she police,pipo shud just change the mind set.
Big Brother
March 19, 2012 at 9:51 pm
@nakferd, read a lot of books: novel, mags, etc. That way your English will improve. Avoid too much music, it’s more on poetry than day-to-day English. Also watch a lot of cartoons. After 6 months you’ll notice the difference.
kylie
March 19, 2012 at 10:49 pm
where the heck is it written that them police officers were bembas?…nxa!
Judge Uko
March 19, 2012 at 10:53 pm
I like your Zambian phrase. But how come you couldnt find a Zambian name for your organization?
Judge Uko
March 19, 2012 at 11:03 pm
@Big Brother and @Nakferd why even argue about a foreign language?
Regardless of how the article was written, the point is the abuse that took place.
Judge Uko
March 19, 2012 at 11:08 pm
We definitely have a bigger problem than anticipated in our nation. I feel one way of solving this, is to empower the females of our nation. Let them know or even brainwash them to believe that they DO NOT need a man to make it in life. It’s going to take time but it will eventually pay off.
Janet c
March 19, 2012 at 11:36 pm
I mean surely in such circumstances the girls should be given the option of a safe abortion – I am sure those police officers will dump mother and child leading to increased prostitution by the girls to feed the babies; or they will go to witch doctors to terminate – some will die from this, or become barren; or those babies will end up as street children….why cant this govt teach safe sex as part of biology – surely
Musonda
March 20, 2012 at 1:31 am
@Mwisho kaps you must be one of the rapists and I call you a rapist because having sex with underaged girls in my world constitutes to statutory rape. You are sick mentally and need help. The police officers have a responsibitilty to protect us and taking advantage of anyone regardless of age is irresponsible. The problem in Zambia is we have so many orphans and these orphans lack direction and this is why most of you here will hual insults like there is no tomorrow only in a society that has lost its morals will this happen. There are people here so twisted I find it hard to believe but then again since all the trash from the copperbelt moved to luberg they have contaminated it with shit cos that province only breeds rubbish, reminds me of southern province.
M.I.B
March 20, 2012 at 5:59 am
teachers also helped!…
students are also prostitutes!
Big Brother
March 20, 2012 at 7:06 am
@Judge Uko. You definition of argue is alien. Nakferd’s English is bad. So I was suggesting to him way of improving so that s/he can write in better English like you and I. You that arguing?
Big Brother
March 20, 2012 at 7:35 am
@Judge Uko. Your definition of argue is alien. Nakferd’s English is bad, so I was suggesting to him/her ways of improving so that s/he can write better English like you and I. You call that arguing? That aside; to make it in life, a woman needs doyo. Those school girls needed it urgently. Sorry I didn’t edit my earlier comment.
mosquito
March 20, 2012 at 8:29 am
@ bantustan panyo panu, why do u always tok negatively even on sensitive issues, u want yo useless contributions to be heard? Ulicipuba kaili ulicikopo. Police did not choose which tribe to send there, only that u are pro hh ubupuba bwalisula mumatako kuli tribalism, and it will not tek u any where, z is 4 us all regardless of ethnic or and tribe and u will live with it until u die, id**t.
Mwana Nfumu
March 20, 2012 at 8:49 am
No rap has been reported that means Police did not force themselves on them. Girls wanted sex too.
There are those foolish ones who never used condoms and the foolish clever ones who used protection.
Shoot both the policemen and the sex loving girls
Uku sefya pa chinyo
March 20, 2012 at 9:05 am
I was there these girls are sweet. When is the next riot pliz, i can’t wait…..
mwila
March 20, 2012 at 9:32 am
bantustan u wil always talk sheet.
Pa Bwato
March 20, 2012 at 11:13 am
LoL @ Nakferd, wa onaula ichisungu mune. You really lack iskulu.
sue
March 20, 2012 at 11:17 am
I think lets all go a little further in our thinking and find who the true culprits are here. Firstly am a mother of two teenage daughters and I live in a community where school going children no longer behave like school going children. I think it is very unfair to put the blame entirely on the Police Officers who were camping at the school. Most of you will agree with me that some of these kids we are living with in our homes do not behave appropriate the moment they leave our homes. The story changes the moment they meet their friends, could it be peer pressure, am not sure. No one of us bloggers here will deny the fact that girls of now a days are becoming sexually active at a very tender age. It all comes back to us parents, do we teach our children high morals? What are seeing now days? Look around you, just see how many girls you have met today who have dressed inappropriate, even here in this fora, just look at the comments we post, look at the names we give ourselves? please let us stop defending these girls by saying its fashion, call me old fashion but I will never allow my daughters to go half naked in public just because they watched Rihanna in her tight open outfit. We were not there in Mongu and we do not know exactly what transpired but I think if we continue to put our children behind our back and cry “defilement” we are not doing any of this generation a favor, we are not teaching them anything. Let us discipline our own children from our own homes, if these school going children knew the dangers of having sex, we wouldn’t have been having this discussion here. I agree there is GBV in our community but let us learn to class these violences and not cry rape when we knew exactly what was going on during the act, mind you, these girls did not report being defiled when it happened, parents only discovered the girls pregnant. I heard this morning on the news of the Director of Human rights that all the incomes of the affected Police officers to be diverted to the continuation of the education of the girls. You know, its not only about being heard, that I should say something for people to recognize us that we care about victims of GBV, I would urge the Director to conduct his own investigation before issuing out statement. Am not defending the police officers neither am I defending the girls but I just feel that we should look at both sides of the coin before we condemn others. All of us will be answerable to God in our own capacity, lets us be real with the way we articulate issues. I thank you all.
NALIMYEBELE
March 20, 2012 at 11:40 am
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MWALITU GONGA BA SATA
March 20, 2012 at 11:41 am
GGG
mwine mushi,jetly the master.
March 20, 2012 at 11:55 am
gorvernment must only find ways of taking care of those orphans.fila citika.abalozi they are so fertilised,kweshako fye fyaimita fyonse pa school.bana mikonza.ka sukulu ulepela yonseee.shame.
Ireena
March 20, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Please can someone show me the evidence that these girls had consented to sex and under what circumstances? For God’s sake these were heavily armed so called law enforcement agents. It is not inconcievable that the police used the threat of violence implied or otherwise to get what they wanted. This sort of unacceptable and disgusting behaviour happens throughtout uncivilised Africa and the UN can attest to this. And please do me a favour ask your own defenceless mother and sisters what they would do if armed men camped at your house demanded to have sex with them?
And please stop blaming these vulnerable girls. They are the victims no matter how much you want to twist the issue. The fact is the govt through the Ministeries of Education and Home Affairs acted recklessly and are therefore culpable. Both the Ministeries have a ‘Duty of care’ to the school girls. Why did the Education Ministry agree to station armed police at a girls school? what were the instructions or rules of engagement given to these sex perverts in uniform by the Home Ministry? Who was the field commanders of these police outlaws? And what behavioural standards did he expect from his juniors as they were camped at a girls school?
This is a pure case of abuse by so called law enforcement officers. All civilsed nations expect all those who adorn state insignia on their uniforms to be of exemplary behaviour and morals. Instead the police officers abused their authority and preyed on a vulnerable group that they were supposed to protect. They failed in their Duty of Care as officers of the State stationed at a State institution.
These idio.ts are not fit to adorn a uniform with State badges or insignia. Only a crazed person can excuse their behaviour. Zambia deserves better!
Amake
March 20, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Its sad that in this day and age young girls allowed themselves to be abused and to engage in unprotected sex. My question is – what was it in exchange for? – money that won’t even buy their coffins in the event that they contracted the dreaded virus.
I thought sex education is taught early in schools these days so -where was the message lost? The other thing I believe is that girls are taught to keep away from men and especially in environments that make them susceptible to abuse. These girls were surely not being raped in their hostel. How can such young girls feel at ease to undress for much older men. This reeks of a society with decaying morals. We will not be able to zip up all men’s trousers but we could try and instill a sense of dignity in our girls.
Let the policemen be disciplined as well for harming rather than protecting the school girls.
Chite ichi
March 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm
thnks Ireena
Chite ichi
March 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Pure defilment,Sex in exchange of beef or zika
John F. K
March 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Water under the bridge,to fight the police offices now.I sure if anyone of these Girls were forced, at least one should have reported. Silence may mean that they concerted.
My appeal to the NGOs that deals in matters that are HIV related, is to move in seriously, have a chat with our men and women in uniform, on consequences of unprotected sex. The same should be applied to our School going Boys and Girls.
lunga
March 20, 2012 at 4:09 pm
The story is sad. This should be corrected so that it does not repeat itself in future.