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RB’s Immunity ‘Tabled’, Opposition MPs Walk Out Of Parliament
Former president Rupiah Banda at State House a week before he was voted out
Just when Mr. Kabimba stood to present the motion, UPND Monze MP Jack Mwiimbu rose on a point order regarding the motion in question.
Mr. Mwiimbu, who is also a lawyer, asked the speaker for guidance because the motion at hand was a subject of a court injunction that was served to the clerk of the National Assembly yesterday afternoon.
In his point of order, Mr. Mwiimbu argued that there have been several instances when the speaker has guided the house to avoid debating matters that are before the courts.
He said a number of opposition MPs who have been expelled from their parties are currently still in the house because the speaker has guided that the matters can only be determined after the courts have discharged them.
But the Speaker ruled that parliament was an independent institution that does not get orders from any other institution hence free to observe its own rules and procedures.
He said the court documents that were served on the Clerk Of National Assembly could not apply to the House because it enjoys freedom to determine its own matters in the spirit of separation of powers and hence it has its own internal proceedings that are not amenable to any court of law.
At this point MPs, mainly from the opposition started heckling and continuously shouted, despite the Speaker’s insistence that that his ruling was final.
The speaker them requested Fred Mmembe’s other agent Wynter Kabimba to finished the motion presentation.
As Kabimba spoke, there was more loud noise and chaos inside the house forcing the Speaker to suspended business for next 15 minutes.
From there the speaker disappeared from the house for almost 2 hours consulting among other people president Michael Sata and Fred Mmembe on what to do next since they are the people who schemed the whole thing.
Meanwhile, heavily armed police officers in full riot gear entered parliament gate as some of Mr. Banda’s sympathisers attempted to break the National Assembly gate.
If you are in Zambia tune in to 92.5 fm, parliament radio and listen to the cahos.
MPs have continued hecling and raising points of order while Fred M;membe’ Speaker says obstruction will not be allowed and the motion must proceed.
‘Motion cannot at this stage be deferred. if I commit an error, there’s another process which can be resorted to, the court process,’ he told MPS but they ignored him.
Sinda MP shouts; ’Minister of justice is not president of Zambia and cannot present motion. Mwanawasa presented motion himself.
Speaker: If you look at hansard, Mwanawasa”s presentation was extensive and did not quite constitute a motion. In this case, parly is relying on standing order 37, which allows any minister to present a motion. When Mwanawasa presented, he used a different article from the constitution.
another point of order. Genesis of this problem is the abuse of the opposition by office of the speaker…’
After being overruled by the Matibini several times including that Kabimba was a wrong person to present because he had a vested interest going by his recent public media statements, opposition MPs have now walked out. But Sata’s deputy minister from the opposition remain in the house.
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Judge Velàdes
March 15, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Useless, selfish and greedy MPs! They wnt 2 protect 1 individual at the xpense of 13 million poor Zambians? he stole 4rm us, let hm pay back d money bt the judiciary shud also be careful…
K21BN is way too much!
SK
March 15, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Tumfweko! How did you know that the speaker was talking to Mmembe and president Sata?
contolola
March 15, 2013 at 7:11 pm
reporter sounds biased
eric
March 15, 2013 at 7:30 pm
we like current affairs but this sounds more partisan and biased tumfweko people abroad read your website so report proffesinaly
Ba medza
March 15, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Typical reporting of ZWD & why relating anyone suporting the removal Rupiah’s immunity to Meembe,kwena uli shilu.Meembe is what he is because of hard work & I consider him to be a hero of millions of zambians.keep on expelling your MP’s & walking out of parley if that will do you any good!mwapya twaisa!
Alangizi
March 15, 2013 at 7:51 pm
The report biased. Removal of Mr. Bwazani Banda’s immunity is not judgement. If he is found innocent he’s immunity is supposed to be re stalled.
ADIABATIC
March 15, 2013 at 8:50 pm
SEVERAL TIMES I HAD TO CHECK IF I ACTUALLY WAS ON ZWD.
I TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RB TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE AND SET THIS MATTER STRAIGHT.
TUMFWEKO,DESIST FROM THIS KIND OF REPORTING. WE EXPECT YOU REPORT STRAIGHT ISSUES AS THEY ARE.NOT THIS KIND OF INFERIORITY
Godzilla
March 15, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Alangizi. There is no provision in the constitution for retorting immunity so stop cheating. Once it’s removed it’s removed.
ninshi
March 15, 2013 at 9:36 pm
Mwandi R B…jt drink yo mutototo. These pipo just tok without action so even if they remove his immunity then wat??? A trial for the next 5yrs??? Then aquital n givin him back his immunity….akunwa fye mutototo iwee…mwandi
BA MEDZA
March 15, 2013 at 11:04 pm
Banda’s immunity has been striped off.comfirmed source.
Mwaka
March 15, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Mwanawasa brought issues to the nation issues were debated prior to this he had also adressed the nation on the issues at hand. The nation would like to know exactly what issues are there that warant to have RBs immunity removed. Can the president also hold a press conference.
Duadro
March 16, 2013 at 12:48 am
Is that juice?
wapya mudzi
March 16, 2013 at 6:36 am
i feel many opposition mps av stopped using their heads 4 thinkg. Thats why my milupi charles felt disappointed that this time around there shud evn b debate over rb extravagance campaign . All that pointd t abuse of resources. It pains me wen i recall how roadside trees and electric pole were clad in mmd regalia. I recall 1 day b4 rb addressed a rally in petauke,more than 1000 chitenge were on trees as wrapper and flags and yet petauke hospital is lacking bed sheets!
kakolwe
March 16, 2013 at 7:06 am
Obama addresses USA about the state of the Union once a year. Nomba ba Sata we are going to 2yrs & he has NEVER addressed Zambia directly! Why?
chuulu
March 17, 2013 at 6:46 am
Because what happens in the US does not and should not determine what happens in Zambia.
Warned
March 17, 2013 at 11:46 am
I agree. All we need is jobs to food on our table. Obama has a lot to talk about because he has a lot to loose:
1. moral fiber for the nation – gay rights
2. loosing the economy to the Chinese
3. Koreans threatening
4. alkaidas on the loose (spelling)
somebody help me with the list
jairos tembo
March 16, 2013 at 7:31 am
yes thats fine
Danje Lacky
March 16, 2013 at 8:19 am
RB should let this proccess to proceed unless of course he has something to hide. Same MPs lifted FTJs immuninity- was it out of hatred for the man?
Lupiya Nimubwezelani
March 16, 2013 at 9:26 am
Mwebanthu pilizi munikhulukileko, sinenzoziba napapata,kwachimbwakaila kula kuyofya, ma inmates yapakishya kuniyofya neo kwachimbwakaila.
AWE NAPAPA
March 16, 2013 at 12:04 pm
What type of reporting is this? Blease ba Tumfweko be truthfull.I can not even connect your story very well.
banda Ruppiia
March 16, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Kanitundila
alick chongo
March 16, 2013 at 3:48 pm
speaker consoulting membe over the removal the immunity? TUMFWEKO must be for the opposition.
Kabwe naba
March 16, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Great, once upon a time there was a farmer that accidentally became a president on Zambian soil, he stole, raped, and abused children and in the name of republican president. At last he was caught up with a rule of law and now is languishing in prison (meaning soon RB will be in prison). Now we cant wait for the insulting lawyer to come to Zambia and face the idiots at international air port. We are waiting for our fellow ***** to come so that we can ***** him right there and then.
David
March 16, 2013 at 6:26 pm
May God,help Zambia during this time.
K.Kasangani
March 16, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Be objective imwe ba Tumfweko, mind you at least you have a bit of us Patriotic Zambians respect as compared to Watch dog. Who told you that the Honorable educated Speaker can comprise his integrity and status as to consult Mmembe on such a touching issue. Banda store openly that even a dog could see. Let him call his son Henry to come to his aid if truly him too is a son to him. This country became Banda’s and his cronies farm where they store with impunity and absolute disregard. Banda deserves to be questioned over his alleged crimes. The world that hid him and employed him as a goodwill ambassador must now know the TRUTH.
Popopo
March 16, 2013 at 8:44 pm
If he has no case why fear ? ***** opposition MPs if it was Satas immunity you should have stayed remember we are watching your foolishness the habit of matching out of parliament is a diarrhoea you must stop ! Help the Zambian people you f……..,,
Kawalala
March 16, 2013 at 11:47 pm
This is why Zambia will continue to be corrupt. The MP’s who walked out have something to hide. Lets get the CIA to take them all to the international court for corruption.
Warned
March 17, 2013 at 11:49 am
I agree.
teza
March 17, 2013 at 8:24 am
who is RB COMPARED TO 13 MILLION ZAMBIANS, THOSE FOOLISH MPs WHO WALKED AWRE MUST ASKE THEMSLVES , WHERE THEY VOTED TO COME AN PROTECTE THIEVEs OR TH PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA.I LIKE THE WAY LUBINDA AN PRO. NKANDU SPOKE ,IT MADE ALOT OF SENSE
Warned
March 17, 2013 at 11:36 am
The walker aways are probably the money burriers. Ain’t nothing to bury now and they are worried.!
wesu
March 17, 2013 at 9:41 am
ifyakulya ubushiku wapya RB.tell Dora to stop insulting our august house,ifyabupuba chi Dora.mwaiba pafula.
wesu
March 17, 2013 at 9:45 am
can some women organisations condemn Doras actions how can a woman insult both men and women older than her,are these the ministers we had?no wonder sata did not “poach” dora for ministerial position.even rb had had other interests ukukubomfya chi Dora.
gweny
March 18, 2013 at 10:18 am
@Faulty finders, idiots, where were u when Chiluba and Mwanawasa were fighting Kaunda, idiots, time is not with you, soon very soon elections will mushroom, just wait and see, Sata is being cheated by Sakeni, the Timber supplier ku Minestone, that big mouth and artificial teeth will soon fade away.
Those who armaking noise have never even owned a chicken in their life time, so stealing what?so u think the current government is not benefiting from our voting, they go there thin, eventually they put on weight. We did not vote to vicitimise people but to put things straight. Lyonse faulty finding. ALA
Arm Star Darm
March 19, 2013 at 12:09 am
All those who are against the lifting of Bwezani’s imunity ‘Balimitoba ifigayo, ifitenge ne injinga’ kwati bamayo ba Dorrah ayini mayo?’. Ine balintobamo a kalupiya………
Arm Star Darm
March 19, 2013 at 12:10 am
All those who are against the lifting of Bwezani’s imunity ‘Balimitoba ifigayo, ifitenge ne injinga’ kwati bamayo ba Dorrah ayini mayo?’. Ine balintobamo a kalupiya………!!!!!