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PROF Clive Chirwa Says HH and UPND Are Selfish And That He Has Been Vindicted
HAKAINDE Hichilema and the UPND are selfish and that is why they are still in opposition, says UK-based UPND party member Professor Clive Chirwa.
Professor Clive Chirwa
In a telephone interview from Chongqing in China, Prof Chirwa said the UPND and Hichilema had made a terrible mistake by not listening to his advice that they merge with Michael Sata and the PF ahead of the elections.
He said Hichilema refused to take up the vice-presidency of the PF-UPND pact because he deceived himself that he was more popular than Sata.
President Sata was elected in the September 20 elections after beating incumbent Rupiah Banda.
“I was extremely disappointed that Hichilema didn’t get my advice. In fact, I told him before the elections that he was not talking and doing the right thing when he refused to bring UPND together with PF. I told him that PF has popularity,” Prof Chirwa said. “I told Hichilema in his eyes in his office that, ‘no, Mr Sata is more popular. The figures which you have are completely wrong’. This was the selfishness of Mr Hichilema and the people who surrounded him. Those are the people who ruined the pact. He would have taken it on board but the people who were advising him completely misled him, thinking he was more popular than Mr Sata.”
He said he predicted that the PF and Sata would win.
“The week before the election, on the 15th of September, I wrote a letter to the PF leaders to say that ‘next week all the Zambians will be celebrating Mr Sata’s victory’ and it’s true when 20th came, he had victory, because I could see that,” Prof Chirwa said. “UPND made a terrible mistake by not listening to me and now what I was predicting has actually happened.”
He said some top members of the UPND opposed the pact with the PF because they were selfish and did not want to relinquish their responsibilities and powers to competent people.
He said now many senior members of the UPND were regretting after the PF victory.
“I have spoken to a few of them, who are within UPND and they have regretted their decisions. I have received nearly seven emails from the people within the UPND national management committee telling me that ‘Professor, you were right. Why didn’t we listen to you?” Prof Chirwa said. “I told them that, ‘you did not listen to me because you had different agenda. You were not for the nation. If you were for the nation you would have actually taken the offer which was put on the table by PF and everybody else’.”
He said selfishness had landed the UPND in enormous disaster.
“It has ended up in enormous disaster because it’s inconceivable for the UPND to be actually talking to MMD. The MMD government ruined the country and I was telling them UPND before that ‘these MMD people are corrupt. You cannot get in bed with them. It’s virtually impossible. You must change your tact and start moving away from them’,” Prof Chirwa said. “I even wrote a letter to the secretary general of UPND, of course I might not disclose the content of the letter, but I was so displeased.”
He observed that in the past the UPND was more progressive than the PF, but now the tables had been turned upside down.
Prof Chirwa said he supported President Sata’s agenda and his speech to Parliament.
“The speech in the Parliament was the speech which I could have written but I didn’t write, it was his Excellency Sata who wrote it. That speech gave everything that I wanted to move Zambia into the new century,” he said.
Prof Chirwa said President Sata’s speech gave Zambians opportunities for employment and change of the constitution to eradicate poverty.
He said President Sata’s agenda was progressive and urged Zambians to support his Presidency.
“The government of progressive thinking has come on board and the agenda they have put forward is progressive and I want to contribute to that agenda. So far, I am extremely pleased with the government. President Sata has chosen ministers who are adequate in their intellectuality to bring real change to the Zambian people,” Prof Chirwa said. “It’s extremely important that now Zambia moves forward in a real way, not all those things we were hearing from MMD with their corrupt tendencies. Time now is to say, ‘congratulations PF’.”
Prof Chirwa said he would come to Zambia in December to present lectures in Lusaka and Ndola about technology transfer and national development.
He said he wants to help the Sata-led government to achieve its goals.
“I will be putting real figures and opportunities for Zambians to build the industries, the infrastructure, the medical care and every single part of society so that everybody has a house, food, etc,” said Prof Chirwa.
“I will bring all the technology to Zambia to help Zambia develop. I will be looking forward to the government to help me in this to eradicate poverty.”
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Habazonda
October 29, 2011 at 1:11 pm
This should now finish off biggoted HH. Prof. Chirwa cared for the nation and advised UPND to be part of national development by accepting Vice presidency in line with the then popularity trends but our dear friend HH could only settle for full presidency. How delusional and moronic is that. Now that elections are over he has chosen to pact with mmd to once again try and to be president. Prof. Chirwa you have the nation at heart and will certainly support you in your lates exploits
Mw
October 29, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Trying to clever after the fact
William Mulenga
October 29, 2011 at 1:39 pm
This guy (HH) will continue to deceive himself because he does not listen to advice. Even today he still thinks he can win the presidency and this is the reason why he is saying that is party is ready for flesh elections if parliament is desolved.
DK
October 29, 2011 at 2:03 pm
LET HH CONTINUE TO DECEIVE HIMSELF THAT HE IS POPULAR! NOW EVERY ONE KNOWS THAT HH IS TOO THEORETICAL AND CAN NOT SEE BEYOND 2O16!
gershom
October 29, 2011 at 2:34 pm
But Ba tumfweko this article is an old one. it appeared in the watchdog a week ago. is this how behind you are? shame on you.
raaa
October 29, 2011 at 3:18 pm
yawn…
Mukelebai
October 29, 2011 at 3:23 pm
We all want to associate ourselves to Ba Sata now
Indira GHANDI
October 29, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Mr Professory, when were you last in Zambia? It appears you base on understanding of Zambian politics on what you read in the POST newspaper. My fear is that your opinion is warped because of your souce of information. My understanding is that you have been away for too long and you are too theoretical in your approach. You are better of in a leacture room that on the political platform. I started law practice in Durban South AFRICA in the early 1920s but could not understand the fight against colonialist back home in India until I relocated. Pick a leaf….
TMC
October 29, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Kanshi ba professor whats yo problm first u wantd 2 b an MMD president then u joind upnd as a fake. just come back home and form yo own party o simply join PF
Davies k
October 29, 2011 at 3:54 pm
We shall see this HH grounding himself every day.
Keen Follower
October 29, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Popularity as a measure of correctness: An idea that correct decisions are based on popularty is wrong, otherwise, we could have a flood of Prof. Clive Chirwas. It is another to win election and the other to run a country. Administering a nation on populist ideas is costly. Mwanawasa did not rule with populist ideas and things worked well. What did UPND and HH take alone that they did not share with others that they are selfish? A calibre of a prof. to abuse the word selfish is unreasonable – could we say that the prof was being selfish to want to have lead MMD straight from UK?
Alego - Netherlands
October 29, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Thanks Prof Chirwa. We need selfless,dedicated and highly intellegent people like him to propel development in Zambia. We dont need greedy and tribalist internalised gunks like this young boy HH.
Prof Chirwa is one of the few think tanks that Zambia as a country need to benefit from.Let him come and work with PF Govt in order to turn around our poor country with rich natural resources. Prof welcome!
Civil Servant
October 29, 2011 at 4:31 pm
HH is finished end of story. HH cannot go anywhere. He has no capacity to to attract masses as did HE MCS. viva PF
bemba tulateka
October 29, 2011 at 5:13 pm
HH is the only remaining non Bemba serious contender for plot one. This the reason that his been fouhgt. Chirwa thinks politics is about science of planes where arimetc calucultions are the norm. In politics, the main component is the human mind and it is never static. HH is worth the preisdency and not VP-ship. On principle he is right not to accept the maness of a bougesie scholar who si devoid of Zambia’s real life and challenges. Yes, the people of Western, Southern, Central. North Western; including Lusaka rural and Copperbelt rural will organize and DON’T TELL the truth – kubeba, will be defeated. organize Now.
Mulopower
October 29, 2011 at 5:21 pm
HH chipuba
bemba tulateka
October 29, 2011 at 5:34 pm
HH is a real man. what is has achieved in life speaks volumes.
Yikonkojola Mukayi
October 29, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Mr. Habahate, What makes you believe Prof cared for the nation?
I dont think he does. He just want us to believe him because he is prof, no way. HH was right, who knows he could have been disappointed more than you think. Why do want to close our eyes and ears? Are you not noticing the trial and error in MS’s leadership? How much to come?
adriano
October 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm
HH and his cohorts may bask so comfortably in the clouds of idealism and the wishful-thinking of their presumed popularity but realism and honesty will always prevail at the end of the day. HH, blinded by his idealism and wishful-thinking, could not accept the realistic and honesty advice of Prof. Clive and now he is having to pay handsomely for his stubbornness. The bembas say, “munshebwa aile namafi kubuko” [the 'I-know-it-all person went with a messed trousers to his in-laws]. I hope the young man is learning something from his mistakes.
nat rad
October 29, 2011 at 6:17 pm
I look forwad to chipimo and Chirwa workin gthis country
Lusaka.
October 29, 2011 at 7:23 pm
HH is a real man. Canot be bribed,can not be mixed with homo sexuals, he is a pricipled man. Wait for time baaba…
dnice
October 29, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Its pple like HH that make one think he just wants to come in for personal gain and not to serve the interests of the zambian pple. President Sata has remained so passinate about our dear country zambia an iam sure he would have accepted to share the podium with any one who shared his passion. HH will never become a president and the sooner he got this in his head, the sooner he will start think of better alternatives. I just love my president and iam so proud to be zambian
dnice
October 29, 2011 at 8:54 pm
what has HH achieved? at least i can tell what President sata has achieved. he was still in government when i was in my secondary school days and i remember wherever he went, in terms of portfolios, he made an impact, eg health, local government, u name it.
Kabuga
October 29, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Ba Profressor Chillz shuwa “I told Hichilema in his eyes in his office that, ‘no, Mr Sata is more popular. The figures which you have are completely wrong’” kwati teyimwa ba polofesa!
Apart from that, I love your aspirations for Zambia, now that’s what I call a Patriotic Zambian, regardless of how people may want to perceive your actions, DON’T STOP! KEEP ON KEEPING ON YOU’RE A STAR
Southern Power
October 29, 2011 at 9:19 pm
HH palibe chake. The young fool has lost even the little popularity he had.
Govt of Monkeys in a Maize Field
October 29, 2011 at 9:25 pm
If Chirwa had any foresight he would know this is not the time to hero worship Sata.
THE SAINT
October 29, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Prof Chirwa had the opportunity to serve in any political party of his choice. He was MMD until Levy rejected him and told him to start as branch chairman. His ego led him to the opposition. He spoke with PF and UPND and he chose UPND. Why? We will never know. I can only speculate that the man was a plant by PF in UPND to bring UPND into subjugation under PF. It is the best thing since sliced bread that the PF/UPND pact failed. If it had gone ahead, that would have been the ned of UPND as a standalone political party. What would have stopped Mr Sata of arresting his vice president on trumped up charges concerning the sale of Luanshya mine? We would have had the Malawian situation in the country. It is not selfishness but national interest that led HH to reject the pact. There may be people in UPND like Chirwa himself who wanted portfolios in a coalition government, but that can never be in national interest. Let ONE party govern and THAT party will take all responsibility for failure and praise for success.
GUEVARA
October 29, 2011 at 11:30 pm
when the man talks of real figures for zambia,s revamping he means it. have read some of his articles they are not far fetched but speak of volumes of wealth that zambia can harness from her God given resource that are on demand world over including for maunfacture of electronics, medical utensils etc no rocket science involved just the right will and the right people and we can take off.may he be suported and not be seen as a political opponent or whithersoever
Mwenya capetown
October 30, 2011 at 12:05 am
HH,will never , never,never, never, never, never,and never be Zambian president.He must just focus on his busineses.We will never vote for him,and if parliament is dissolve,the Zambian people will make sure he losses even the few seats he has now.
wow
October 30, 2011 at 1:11 am
@ Alego-Netherlands I commend you for pointing out that Prof Chirwa is a THINK TANK. Zambia needs him. He seems to have fundamental sevelopment ideas having lived overseas for a long time. Too bad he did not join PF in the first place
wow
October 30, 2011 at 1:12 am
meant Fundamental development ideas
Wanya Wanya
October 30, 2011 at 1:55 am
@wow. What is fundamental development ideas?
Ndoshzi
October 30, 2011 at 2:25 am
CRY TH BELOVED COUNTRY
Zambia still has a big problem ahead. Currently there’s not credible alternative to PF. UPND is still prostituting around. No party can win by simply taking advantage of any sickening party. That like a hyena following after an injured buffalo hoping to eat it once it is very weak. But once it recovers, the hyena will go hungry and start looking for another animal looking sick. At last it is the hyena itself which will die of hunger and get eaten by wild dogs which have no patience to wait.
UPND supporters need to analyse the situation, accept their mistakes and weaknesses and start building up from ground up and learn to be principled. Floating around wont take UNPD anywhere. TIME. New parties are coming up with fresh agendas and ideas. UPND risks being absorbed in the history of time. Mazoka worked hard. Removed the stigma of tribe from the party. But HH constantly basing his decisions on tribes is very detrimental to UPND. Ask this question: Why was Mazoka so acceptable to all people North, South, East and West? Because he discussed issues and and moved away from using divide and rule. He helped to Unite people and not divide them. he criticized people based on each individual merits and not which part of Zambia one comes from.
When Mazoka died, those who did not understand politics destroyed UPND in a short time. They gave it a bad name. Who was the first to cry tribe connotation in everything done in UPND? SAKWIBA SIKOTA. To-date SAKWIBA is still in political wilderness crying.
All Zambians and many independent southerners are wondering the direction on UPND.
Time will tell. It is now or never. UPND take the bull by its horn and speak the truth. I no some wont buy it but it is good the face reality than someone’s dream into oblivion.
Get up, Standup if UPND has to survive.
Ndoshzi
October 30, 2011 at 2:54 am
CRY TH BELOVED COUNTRY – Get up, Standup if UPND has to survive.
Zambia still has a big problem ahead. Currently there’s not credible alternative to PF.
Currently UPND is still prostituting around. No party can win by simply taking advantage of another sickening party. It’s like a hyena following after an injured buffalo hoping to eat it once it is very weak. But with time it ‘d recover. The hyena will then go hungry and start looking for another animal looking sick. Eventually, the hyena itself will die of hunger and get eaten by wild dogs which have no patience to wait.
All UPND supporters need to analyze the situation, accept their mistakes and weaknesses and start building up from ground up. Floating around won’t take UNPD anywhere. TIME-TIME. New parties are coming up with fresh agendas and ideas. UPND risks being swallowed in the history of time if its strategy is not reassessed.
Mazoka worked hard. Removed the stigma of tribe from the party. The party attracted many people an d supporters became confident. Alas! here comes HH constantly basing his decisions on tribes, not aware it is very detrimental to UPND. PF was a long way behind UPND/Mazoka. PF got focused and preached unit and embraced all. Never talked about tribes. UPND/HH wanted shortcut, the went out with any party they thought they could swallow. Today, UPND has contracted HIV and we don’t know how it will heal itself. Ask this question: Why was Mazoka so acceptable to all people North, South, East and West? Because he discussed issues and and moved away from using divide and rule. He helped to Unite people and not divide them. He criticized people based on each individual merits and not which part of Zambia one comes from.He rubbed shoulders with those who helped him present issues not hatred.
When Mazoka died, those who did not understand politics destroyed UPND in a short time. They gave it a bad name. Who was the first to cry tribal connotation in everything done in UPND? SAKWIBA SIKOTA. To-date SAKWIBA is still in political wilderness crying.
All Zambians and many independent southerners are wondering the direction on UPND.
Time will tell. It is now or never.
All UPND supporters should swallow pride, take the bull by its horn and speak the truth. I know some wont buy it, but it is good to face reality than to follow someone’s dream into oblivion.
We all need credible opposition, but UPND is not positioning itself for that. Every sensible person knows when to speak or keep silent.
UPND should re-brand itself. Five years is very long so UPND should come back in a positive way, help PF build a frame work for development and then campaign to show people what they can do after the people have seen them in a positive light. Currently, UPND should openly join PF in fighting corruption, even champion it so that all corrupt practices are attended to. Work with PF to plan Infrastructure development for whole Zambia. Help workers and the poor. These are ways to make UPND come back. Fighting PF from first day in power is a fast lane to political archives.
I beg all UPND supporters to read this and think about it. If we all speak with one voice, then UPND will come back instead of sinking.
AMEN
Samlindo
October 30, 2011 at 6:51 am
UPND has very poor structures on the ground in all the other provinces mybe apart from southern or mybe southern just gives a Tonga Vote, I hav looked at the credibility of some persons in the so called district executives and it leaves much to be disired. Take Mpongwe District as an example. you will be shocked to see the people that are supposed to carry the party foward. it is right now too late to correct the situation especially that now thepresident has gone to bed with MMD
komisha international
October 30, 2011 at 6:57 am
Anyone whose been following Zambian politics will tell you that the knew that the pf was to carry the day. People like Prof.Chirwa are danger to our democracy.we need checks and balance how many times did sata loose presidential elections,prof should that pacts have not faired well in africa. Prof.please go back to do what you know best.
Jimmy chanda
October 30, 2011 at 7:12 am
Mr Chirwa is a Zambian Hero.HH seems not to understand politics better.it’s high time he went back to the drawing board & asses his party manifesto.new political parties are coming up with fresh ideas but HH is just glued to the old Mazoka’s manifesto.To tell the truth,if given a choice to vote for eihter HH or Ellias of the NAREP i wud go for Ellias not because of the tribe but because of his manifesto.please HH revise your manifesto,i love the UPND C i don’t want to die complete coz i can see it sinking.chao
walid
October 30, 2011 at 7:40 am
Mr DJ HH boasting nanjala.
Wren
October 30, 2011 at 8:25 am
Prof Chirwa u’re really a man for development. Thanks we will be waiting for your contribution!
bman
October 30, 2011 at 8:53 am
ITS TRUE THAT WHEN AN OBJECT IS GAINING MORE WEIGHT IT REQUIRES DOUBLED EFFORT TO BLOCK IT. HH IS PROVING TO BE A THREAT IN THE SIGHT OF THOSE SIMINGLY ENJOYING THE HONEY TODAY HENCE MORE RUBISH TALKING ABOUT HIM. THIS MAN HAS A PROPER LAID DOWN FUTURE FOR THIS COUNTRY, INDEED OUR COUNTRY. SO GIVE HIM CHANCE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN 2016.
Wantanshi
October 30, 2011 at 11:19 am
HH’s problem is lack of strategic thinking and inflexibility. The future presidency of Zambia was proffered to him on a platinum plate. When he was offered the vice-presidency of PF/UNPD, he should have gratefully accepted the position keeping in mind that the possibility exists for him to assume the presidency later. If he was an astute leader he could have discerned that PF/Sata was more popular and presented the real change that people really wanted.
He still has the opportunity to reorganise and set a different agenda that’s bereft of tribe, selfishness, arrogancy and bu mano ku ikwatila. Politics is a different ball game altogether especially if your opponents are the likes of Sata, experienced in the art of dribbling, HH doesn’t stand a rats ass of winning any election while Sata is in charge. Impossible!
laza
October 30, 2011 at 11:47 am
BUT PLIZ DONT DEFECT ONCE MORE
Williams
October 30, 2011 at 12:14 pm
some pipo r dull.. Prof Chirwa means wells and one can not compare ths intelligent man 2 ths useless and selfish HH.. Prof Chirwa we welcom u and ur gud developmental ideas…
GUEVARA
October 30, 2011 at 2:23 pm
missing the point guys it has awlays been here and we cant see it. Chirwa is not tonga period. how on earth was his advice going to be heeded without a tonga accent or blood in his veins
Muyanda
October 30, 2011 at 3:57 pm
I like Prof Chirwa. I have been advocating for him to become president of UPND b4 the party collapses under HH. Mazoka did not promote tribalism in UPND. Then came HH who thinks that all Tongas should vote UPND. Well continue to vote UPND and you will never rule Zambia!!!!!
Origin Zambiano
October 30, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Tumfweko is a Mbemba term based on rumourmongering. Your repotage about Prof. Chirwa is no genuine. Your story is meant to please PF or typical as you Bembas are tribalists your hatred for HH UPND is reflected in how you have segregated yourselves from all other Zambias. You now create an impression that you are a wise lot by claiming what Prof. Chirwa purpoted to have said. You justfy yourselves at any given oppotunity. NTOLELEFYE concept. You are deceptive people every Zambian knows. Let HH UPND, MMD, FDD, etc observe your governance and will make it difficult to plunder the nation again asyuo did under Chiluba.
Nakabemba
October 30, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Dont call yourself bemba tuleteka you are not bemba coz us bemba we dont talk like that. The President can be bemba but the government is for all Zambians. Having money is one thing and being a president is another. Some people have a lot of money but they can never tell you how they got the money. Some may have become rich as a result by sacrificing to the devil. I know money answers everything but I think HH is supposed to be smarter than what he is to become president of that Great Nation Zambia.
Nakabemba
October 30, 2011 at 8:37 pm
My friend you are the worst tribalist just the way you sound. I dont know what bembas will do in that Country when HH becomes president I dont know when that will be. Bembas are so much hated by you but I can assure you God will always stand for the innocent. Mwe babemba Ku Zed read and see how these people hate without an apparent reason. god help us.
free states man
October 30, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Adivse to UPND its time for you to start looking for a new leader
Govt of Monkeys in a Maize Field
October 30, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Is bantustan a hate term, coined by the ones you portray as the innocent?
NIKA
October 31, 2011 at 6:20 am
Bemba haters deal with the fact that Sata is president and that your Obama lookalike wannabe HH will never rule VIVA SATA GOD IS WITH YOU