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‘HH Is MYOPIC And UPND Will SINK By End Of This YEAR’
WYLBUR Simuusa says people of Southern Province should remove the tribal tag by voting for change.
And former UPND officials said Hakainde Hichilema was a myopic leader who wanted to bulldoze his way.
During a rally at Kaleya grounds to drum up support for the Patriotic Front Magoye parliamentary candidate Eugene Munyama, Simuusa said Southern province should join the rest of the country in fulfilling the change they desired.
‘Me I am Simuusa from Choma but i won (elections) with a landslide in Nchanga. Let’s show the country that we’re tired of being in opposition. Don’t waste your vote on UPND and MMD; they’re not going anywhere,’ said Simuusa.
Former UPND National trustee Mundia Mundale said the party went into an alliance with the MMD without consulting the party.
‘Why does he (Hichilema) think he can decide on all matters alone? He pulled out of the pact with PF without consulting us and now they have gone to bed with MMD without consulting members,’ he said.
Cecilia Limwanya, a former UPND National women’s coordinator said she left the party due to its inconsistencies on national issues.
She said it was shameful that Hichilema who denounced MMD’s soft spot for corruption had teamed up with hypocrites.
‘How can a serious person partner with a party that maimed and killed our brothers and sisters in Mongu? MMD has blood on its hands, and these are the people UPND is working with! ‘ she remarked.
Former UPND chairman for livestock and fisheries Lawrence Nyambe said UPND woud sink by the end of this year.
He said the party leadership was divided after Hichilema dictated that they work with MMD.
‘People are not happy and more will be leaving; watch the space,’ he said.
Posted by
Brainee
November 15, 2011 at 12:52 pm
This is a blue lie, the UPND will not go to bed with people with blood stains in their hands and cannot sink so low as to be brought down by the so called PF government which is already losing grounds. Watch the barometer, PF is losing while UPND is gaining grounds.
Shi Master
November 15, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Am sure you are also sleeping,the timing for UPND is wrong,they do not know what they want or what to do so they move from this alliance to that aliance which is bad for them,as for Magoye they will not in anyway win,dont be cheated or lied to that they will win and if you can travel and see whats on the ground,thats what it was during the run up to the 20 September general election
HP
November 16, 2011 at 2:33 pm
U cant reason well Mr/Mrs Shi Master, or you don’t understand what you talk about. Magoye is for UPND weather in opposition or not.
baboonstan
November 16, 2011 at 11:37 pm
shimaster uleke ubukopo tabwafwilisha iyo
bemba tulateka
November 15, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Alright, those turn-coats from Western Province a bunch of loafers who have failed in life cannot shake UPND in Western Province. Nyambe and Cecilia are homeless. In Kaoma, a nkoya worth his salt can associate herself with PF that wants to re-introduce BA64 with impunity. UPND+MMD = TRUE CHANGE.
Drugsquard
November 15, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Nonsense, HH is looking for a ladder, if MMD provides one ask me 2morrow when HH ascend to power, that is if.
it cant neva
November 15, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Yabaaaaaaa but mulayufwisha bwino guys. Both pf and upnd. The fact is pf can not win magoye seat and HH will never be president
Wanu Ngwee
November 15, 2011 at 1:52 pm
LOOK, I AM NOT A CARD CARRYING MEMBER OF ANY PARTY, BUT I VOTE. I VOTE FOR THE BEST PARLIAMENTARY CANDIDATE TO SERVE MY CONSITUENCY IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR PARTY, AND THE BEST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (ACTUALLY, THE LESSER EVIL OF ALL DEVILS ON OFFER). THIS IS WHAT SHOULD MAKE DEMOCRACY INTERESTING. BUT I DON’T LIKE THIS TENDENCY OF PEOPLE TALKING TOO MUCH AND SAYING ALL THE HURTFUL THINGS ABOUT A PARTY THEY ARE LEAVING IN PREFERRENCE FOR ANOTHER. IT IS THE NATURE OF HISTORY TO RECORD EVENTS, AND YOU’LL BE THE ONE TO LOOK FOOLISH WHEN YOU LEAVE YOUR NEW PARTY AGAIN FOR ANOTHER OR RETURN TO YOUR INITIAL ONE! JUST LEAVE FOR PERSONAL REASONS COZ WE KNOW THAT NO ONE EVER ANNOUNCES THAT THEY ARE OPTING FOR A DIFFERENT PARTY FOR GREENER PASTURES. SO TO ALL OF US WHO WISH TO BE CARD CARRYING MEMEBERS OF ANY PARTY, PLEASE JOIN THESE POLITICAL ORGANISATIONS PURELY BECAUSE OF THEIR PRINCIPLES, POLICIES, PROGRAMMES OF ACTION, BELIEFS AND IDEALS ON HOW BEST TO ACHIEVE A PROGRESSIVE AND DEMOCRATIC ZAMBIA, AND NOT ON THE BASIS OF WHAT POSITIONS THEY CAN OFFER YOU…! LET’S BE CIVIL IN MAKING THESE PERSONAL CHOICES, WE OWE IT TO NO LEADER TO BELONG WHERE WE LIKE, IT’S CALLED FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION.
Dododo!
November 15, 2011 at 2:03 pm
HH is simply too proud and selfish. he is ashamed that PF went on to win even after he left and that showed him just how week he is, he is desparatly trying to find his legs and ladder for his selfish dreams, and believe me he want to use mmd as his stepping stone. he is an oppotunist, mmd better watchout!
zambiana
November 15, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Ba wylbur sure when nothern and luapula gave the vote to sata it was not a tribal tug but when southern voted for hichilema it should be sited as a tribal tug. Shame ba dala.You are lost and blinded by your self centeredness.
ngoshe pa nkoloko
November 15, 2011 at 3:23 pm
WHAT ABOUT LUSAKA ,CB,…..ARE THESE PROVINCES FOR BEMBA SPEAKING PIPO…..SWITCH ON……ZAMBIANO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS LOST AND BLINDED BY YOU STU\PID SELF…………
baboonstan
November 16, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Bemba speaking pipo are the most urbanised and some dull chaps think that if they are able to communicate in bemba, then they are inteligent. So most chaps from these other ethnic groups have been bembalised
Real Tonga
November 15, 2011 at 2:22 pm
No matter hw much HH tries he will never rule Zed. I r
eally hate this HH coz of his type of politics. He has caused so much hatred towards my tribe (Tonga) coz of his selfishness n greed. Please somebody shoot him already….nxa!
baboonstan
November 16, 2011 at 11:43 pm
walitumpa real Tonga
black man
November 15, 2011 at 2:51 pm
“REAL TONGA” you such an ***** and i trully want to believe that you are actually not Tonga. If you are, you must be one of these Tongas from Zimbabwe (in Binga) who have flooded the Gwembe valley. Shame on you if you feel your “tribe” is hated. You have no principles and you really a down syndrom. Leave us pure Tongas remain vigilant of our tribe my foolish friend. We are men and that is why Bembas always feel unconfortable about us. Didnt Luapula and Northern vote for Sata the Bemba? Go to sleep lady.
ngoshe pa nkoloko
November 15, 2011 at 3:31 pm
WHAT ABOUT LUSAKA ,CB,…..ARE THESE PROVINCES FOR BEMBA SPEAKING PIPO…..SWITCH ON……YOU ARE EQUALLY ****** …..THE ONE WHO IS LOST AND BLINDED BY YOU STU\PID SELF
Chinyopilo
November 16, 2011 at 9:01 am
There are tongas like me who have grown up in C/belt and feel ashamed to associate ourselves with tribalism. Its foo.ls like you that are making us all look like tribalists. You die-hard tonga tribalists should live outside the cacoon of southern province and change your tribal ways. You are a danger to yourselves, cosmopolitan tongas and the entire nation. I must conclude that you have a serious inferiority complex.
babe-with-attitude
November 15, 2011 at 2:58 pm
I think most morally upright Zambian politicians are dead.
Politicians these days dont think of what they can do for the nation, but what the nation can do for them.
Shameless defectors! Im now wary of parties who are quick to embrace such people.
I know everyone is free to join any party and that there is power in numbers, but people with a shameless and immoral tendency of jumping from party to party should be scrutinized before being welcomed and if possible not used during campaigns.
I dont know about you, but when i queued for more than 2 hours and voted for MCS, I really wanted change.
Now everyday I wake up to see near convicts being made leaders, I wish I didnt vote. Coz it seemed my vote was abused to benefit just a few individuals close to Sata.
Some of us sacrificed alot for Sata to be in power, but the man wont even leave lusaka even for a day just to visit us and say thankyou and renew our hope for change.
He is just busy appointing and appeasing corrupt elements and defectors. Chilankalipa!
MMD
November 15, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Only God knows who will never be President. Some chaps from Kolwestan are so scared of HH. that at every turn and time they talk about HH. And want to promote another chap from Kolwestan a known homosexual. Check them in Kabwe one of these days.at their den
MMD
November 15, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Simusa, we wish you luck. But get used to the idea to leave with HH and UPND. they are going no where. Zambia ni ziko latu tonse.Period. UPND will be there come 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015…2016+++
Mj
November 15, 2011 at 3:10 pm
real tonga, dont use yo idiocy 2 coz unnecesary tribal hatred! u r not tonga after all. if u hate hh ur free 2 do so but dont play with our feelings as tongas! lets leave it at that
Zima Ndola
November 15, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Real Tonga you are saying the truth,HH will never be President.Next after Sata we vote Winter Kabimba after Winter it will be Elias Chipimo all bembas.Mind you Northern,Luapula,CB and Lusaka are all ours and the Easterners by 2016 will be PF dominated.It happens always the realise after some time and they have started joining PF already.Ba black man leave real tonga alone.He is just being REAL.
Tripoli
November 15, 2011 at 3:25 pm
WHO IS HH?YOU MEAN THE DANCING QUEEN?
Person Munthu
November 15, 2011 at 3:35 pm
All those who are against HH are tribalist and have no manners. Look at what Sata is embracing,”are you happy to bring in corrupt people in govt? Monitor your pace. Mind same thing happened in 2006 when he embraced Chiluba and pronounced that he would pardon all corruption cases for the said person. Birds of same feathers flock together.
I cannot get surprised to hear these announcements and appointments. It is written.Do not condemn HH these are the things he for saw in future. A cobra can change it’s position when it about to strike. It has striked.
Expect a lot of disappointments. This is just a beginning.It is only HH who can change the image of this country. Believe me or not.
Boogie
November 15, 2011 at 3:56 pm
I am one of those that voted for MCS and i am very disappointed with his appointments.Barely two months into office, he is making nauseating appointments. It would not be a bad idea to have HH as president. Let those people who are leaving the UPND leave quietly.
mundia
November 15, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Tongas you are very good people do not feel lonely u are our brothers and sisters we love you the only problem is my cousin hh who is misleading you by jumping from this tree to the other just because of his greediness to become president. Advise the young man to accept working under other people than him always wants to lead. Andy with the combination of Sak nearly made it without joining any other party, we are only sorry his votes were stolen. You missed the opportunity to have a tonga president by bringing tribal issues after we lost Andy(MHSRIP). However, what else can we do the milk has been spielt,the young man should be a man and stand on his two feet help him organize UPND and wait for 2016 to again try his luck, if he will not make it let him pave way and leave politics to other people and const. in his business ku felile.
langslukwe
November 15, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Let us co-exist MMD,UPND,HERITAGE and other parties are there for the good of the people and ba Simuusa don’t talk about HH wen u re campaigning coz u jst streathening him if u dn’t know,as long as hh’s party supports him he will surely rule this country one day who re u to say that? Lesa alasebanya.
Kay Hummer
November 15, 2011 at 5:12 pm
UPND is sleeping with the enemy!!!
Hh
November 15, 2011 at 6:31 pm
You pipo who are supporting HH, let me ask u a question , is upnd improving under HH or not? Mazoka was a man for all, but HH is a man for tongas. HH has destroyed wat Mazoka worked hard for.
2001 26.76% upnd
2001 3.35% PF
2001 26.69% MMD
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2006 25.3% upnd
2006 29.4% PF
2006 43.0% MMD
2008 19.70% upnd
2008 38.13% PF
2008 40.09% MMD
2011 18.5% upnd
2011 43 % PF
2011 36.1% MMD
Now can u see how Mazoka did and what HH is doing. Weak up
1ZED 1Nation
November 16, 2011 at 12:14 pm
i dont seem to get it y so many pipo rae debatin on tribal grouds and payin a blind eye to simple facts lyk this, pipo lets vote in who we blive is of a lesser evil amongest all devils, mind u politicians are mo less the same, tis evrybodys ryt to debate on wat affects them, but many show ignorance wen the comment on things they understand less, pipo of zambia UPND under HH is losin popularity luk at the facts above, if u dnt agree check the ECZ website before u expoz yo foolishness.
HH
November 15, 2011 at 6:49 pm
2001 mmd 29.15%
LELONILELO
November 15, 2011 at 9:04 pm
WELL SOUTHERN PROVINCE IS NOT FOR SALE TO THE PATHETIC FRONT ;WE DON’T ACCEPT RUBBISH LEADERSHIP
Black man
November 15, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Zambia is getting hot on tribal lines!Bembas do not talk about other tribes but Tongas because they feel they have already defeated these other tribes. Bembas are behaving like the dragon pronounced in the bible, be careful Zambians!! Tongaland is like Isreal so Bembas should understand this! We will always stand strong whether your swift tongues spit fire. You guys fail to reason. do you think no Tongas voted for MCS???? you must be a bunch of trush!!! Infact, Southern province should no longer be called ” Southern province”. We will rename it as TONGALAND. Thanks for bringing the Tongaland HQ to Choma, this will unite us further……..
Brilliant
November 15, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Very unfair attacks at HH!! Muzike bamulumba naloboka. Even Mazoka was hated the same way untill the last nail was hit on his coffin then he changed to be a good Mazoka. He was called a Satanist (masonist),a tribalist, and many other names. When he was sick Sata was even laughing at him saying that his trousers were falling. This is the Zambia we live in. Well, there is time for everything and God alone will prove us right or wrong. We wait to see how the 90 days will expire. More money in our pockets!!! We are counting.
Original Bantustan
November 16, 2011 at 3:27 am
I sometimes wonder whether some of these bloggers have functional brains. Tongas were the first people to reject MMD and FTJ due to useless leadership whilst Bembas supported. Can a Tonga be a president of PF? NEVER. How can a Bemba be a president of a party which is strong in SP? Doesnt make sense. Tongas will always stand for the truth and hardwork. These are the values they teach their children from a young age. In Mufulira where I come from by the way, Bembas were even saying teti tuvole umutonga, tulefwaya umwaushi! That is tribalism at it’s best. I think Bembas can not acknowledge that because they have rotten morals. Corruption is a normal thing to them, thats why they even have ‘WISE’ sayings- ubomba mwibala alya mwibala. Atase. We are tired of your mediocrity. Let Zambia be divided into a Federal state. SP under UPND will prosper! UPND councils are the most uncorrupt councils in Zambia.
HH
November 16, 2011 at 5:00 am
Am still asking u the same question which even a kid can answer, is upnd improving as a party? From 26% to 18%, 8% is a big number that not even a fourth presidential cadident in this years elections had that 8%. Zambia is about 13 million pipo, and 73 tribes. It’s not about tongas and bembas. Who ever support PF is bemba, read the article and then comment, don’t comment on the comments you are reading, the pipo in this article who are saying this are tongas. This is the site for all of us stop the bemba and tonga fight here. Just accept the fact, that PF Rose from 3% to 48% it’s an achievement. Am a neutral person seeing what’s on the ground, don’t just support blindly. It’s important to do the home work and see the best person who can change upnd for better, but if you want to justify the wrong, you will always rally behind
man k
November 16, 2011 at 6:07 am
I am sapoting Real Tonga that hh cant rule Zambia cause the man the man is basing his campagning on tribal grouds. Me I am from chiawa but let me tell u that I voted for pf cause pat brought unity interms of campagn strategy used and they stood firm in critisizing mmd but when u look at hh he is joining hands together with people (mmd) he called to be currupt and gives this gives sapotas some doubts that what type of a leader is hh. Secondly he thot beeing tribalism his tribal kazens like Lozis,Kaondes,Luvales etc would make him win 2011 election but it proved him wrong. Hh has developed stress cause the person he never espected to win election won elections. Upnd can do well only if they focus one direction and do away with mmd because people do not want to hear about mmd. Other wise no one hates tongas it is just the greedness of the hh. Be carefull, Chipimo is coming well. Upnd pullup yo socks for we love u very much.
LEBO LIDA
November 16, 2011 at 6:34 am
Lolenilelo,real tonga,mj,original bantu stan mwalipena,tatulenda pafya ma tribez nishi bafikala.ine ndimu tonga bt i gve respect to bembaz y?thy ar sharp,cleva,fast and strategic in wat they do elo thy ar real jst imagin evry place u visit chibemba elo if u want life 2b eazy 4u pa z speak bemba fimo ifintu tulesuminafye.mwilandapo patu nalatukana isanguke nomubemba pa last.gudu moning tumfweko na banandi onungwe gv me yo number we form a pact ulangufwishabwino boyi muchila chafikasa fya chalo.gud day boyi.
chanda
November 16, 2011 at 6:47 am
im tired of pipo owez toking abt tribalism ba simuusa u r old muletontonkanya u shud b thinkn az old as u r u stil tokin tribalism… Tongas voted HH us bembas we voted Sata so wre iz tribalism… Its lyk u sayin u stand as an mp then yo family members dnt vot for u dats nosense… Its js human nature vot for samone clos to u
Child of the Sky
November 16, 2011 at 7:53 am
I may not agree with UPND and its leader’s strategy, but I’m beginning to appreciate the SP’s voting pattern. Yes Eastern, Luapula and Northern also vote the same way.
Bullman
November 16, 2011 at 7:53 am
@Real tonga is an idoit who leaves in fools paradise. The nepotism and tribalism we are seeing in the PF govt is unprecedented. Not even my favourite guy FTJ could match this govt in this area. Fact is we are in reverse gear and no good will come out of this govt. Mark my words. Tonga’s are the most accomodating tribe in Zambia. We have had Lozi & Indian mp’s in Livingstone,Monze and Mazabuka. Which I could say the same about Western,North-Western,Northern,Luapula or indeed Eastern provinces. We believe all humans are equal and no tribe is supreme. We seriously fail to find reason why we should be called names for exercising our democratic right to choose a candidate of our choice. Just because he is our tribesman does not disqualify him. Give us a better educated candidate like a better version of Chipimo junior, we may consider. Simply put MCS does not inspire confident in us, we can read him a mile away. Our culture has no place for big storytellers.
White pig
November 16, 2011 at 8:17 am
UPND to sink by the end of year? Thats what i call myopic instead. PF concentrate on your campaigns, you know it Magoye you cant win and even Chongwe your Masebo might just lose……watch the space. You think by taking bags of money to the same tongas you call tribalist they can vote for you…..
Call them Tribalist, bantustans or whatever Mmembe and his cohorts can refer to Tongas…..TTHE FACT IS THEY WILL NOT VOTE FOR YOU AS LONG AS YOU INSULT THEM.
The Great
November 16, 2011 at 9:42 am
Trblsm wl nt tek HH en UPND n whre. Nw its da tme da “Tongas” stopd dremin dat HH wl bcom da prsdnt of Zambia en do da rite thin by remvng HH as UPND en put a nutro prsdnt who z nt frm southen provnce in orda 2 win th trust of th pipo of th paty. F dis z nt done then UPND wl hv no future n zed politics.
intez
November 16, 2011 at 12:48 pm
wat do u min by some1 nt 4rm southern province?u min dey dnt ve de rit 2stand if dey ar 4rm southern?
Imiponto!
November 16, 2011 at 10:17 am
Upnd is dead with ngombe boy period!
Bullman
November 16, 2011 at 11:02 am
Fact you grow up in copperbelt does not change fact that you are Tonga. You should never be ashamed of being Tonga. I was before at UTH is Lsk and have lived my whole life in Lsk and support City ya moto. Am still a very proud Tonga with a Lungu mother from Northern province. Fact is Northern will never accept me as one of them. So I don’t care what you think or say about my people. They have made the choice and just respect it. PUNKS!
HH
November 16, 2011 at 11:05 am
Am sure u tribalist pipo are all from the village, because there is no tribalism in town, if u are in town u must be brought up from the village. Don’t vote on trable lines, vote for the popular, if HH tactics are are not working he should try some thing or put someone, surely the party that is not selling it’s self country wide but region wide, and u expect to rule. Let’s now see who are tribalist.
2001. Luapula: mwanawasa 35.36%, BY 10.38%, christon Tembo 5.52%, Mazoka 2.81%, sata 2.39%.
northern: mwanawasa 25.05%, BY 10.48%, Mazoka 8.50%, christon Tembo 4.54%, Mumba nevers 3.16%, Kaunda T 3.01%, sata 1.37%
southern: Mazoka 49.86%, mwanawasa 6.11%, christon Tembo 5.08%, miyanda 1.03%, sata 0.18%.
now who tribalist here? I leave to pipo
RS
November 16, 2011 at 11:32 am
Okay enough let us give the tongas their western province, we see what they are going to eat. You will see how they are going to finish sand.
babe-with-attitude
November 16, 2011 at 12:24 pm
RS, you are dull. Tongas are from southern province. I bet you dont even know where you are from.
Ps: being dull is not an insult but a state of being for certain people like RS.
Snr. citizen
November 16, 2011 at 12:25 pm
RS ni chani iwe South is for the Bantu while West is for the Baroste where there is sand.
iye
November 16, 2011 at 12:30 pm
If UPND is losing popularity, why are PF members so bitter? Or are they just bitter by nature?
As for me I ll happily support UPND even if I ll be the only member!
HH
November 16, 2011 at 12:59 pm
When u write exams and u dnt pass. What do u do? U see which subjects u didn’t do well and u concetret on those subjects. That’s were am saying of changing tactics. PF concentrated in towns and not in the villege, what did they do? They whent into the villege and sell there party well. That’s what upnd should do and not to be bitter on PF victory, they dizve it. And if u want sata to give u tonga ministers, give the mps, not by chance
zick
November 16, 2011 at 1:26 pm
money can’t buy HH presidence,u are greed
dnice
November 16, 2011 at 1:29 pm
the only reason HH will never test the number 1 seat is not because of him but because of his people and i guess if at all HH became president, they will probably expect him to change the capital city from lusaka to monze. Just an innocent tip to HH people, be less tribal and you will probably get your leader crowned
RS
November 16, 2011 at 2:59 pm
I bet i also believe in execellency and mistakes are by chance. Thanks snr citizen.
Mp
November 16, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I can imagine HH being beaten by the wife for breaking a way frm PF & UPND pact because the wife would have been the second Lady today.
cecil
November 16, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Leave HH alone, why are u always making all those rubbish comments when you know that he is not there to defend himself. You say you are a christian nation when you are full of hurt. Please leave his wife out of this mess. God forbid.
Iye
November 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm
I support you. The way other people are addicted to PF that’s how others are addicted to UPND. Chikonda moyo.
Big
November 16, 2011 at 3:56 pm
HH is upnd, there will be another tonga party that will come and sprit the votes that will be the end of upnd. In PF given lubinga or kabimba will be the next president and u will see PF intact but upnd with any other tribe that will be the end of it. Now the all Zambia knows you
Big
November 16, 2011 at 4:58 pm
That’s you opinion. Otherwise no other party. We are UPNDnised okay. Like it or not.