FOREIGN AFFAIRS minister and Roan Constituency Member of parliament Chishimba Kambwili has bemoaned and condemned the voting pattern in Southern Province.
Featuring on ZNBC’s radio 1, Chishimba Kambwili condemnd the voting pattern in the Southern province of Zambia, saying the province votes for United Party for National Development (UPND) candidates just because the UPND party president Hakainde Hichilema hails from there.
Kambwili further said even a stone if it stood in Southern Province under the UPND ticket can still win.
He called for change of mentality in the way Southern province votes.
Southern province has been cited as the province which votes based on tribal lines associated with the opposition UPND.
The issue of tribalism became rampant in that region when then UPND president Anderson Mazoka who hailed from Southern province died and the party was looking for Mazoka’s successor.
Serious strong pronouncements and statements from Southern province were issued that only a tonga can lead UPND and no other one tribe.
Sakwiba Sikota ,a Lozi, was UPND vice president then and was a rightful candidate to replace Mazoka but tables turned that they needed a tonga to be party president.
They later resolved and chose Hakainde Hichilema, a tonga, as their UPND party president in a controversial manner and led to Sakwiba Sikota quiting as the party’s veep because of tribalism within the party.
Patrick Chisanga came in as party veep, it was all the same, he was butchered and many more have joined and quit citing tribalism.
The ‘One Zambia, One Nation’ slogan first republican president Kenneth Kaunda advocated for has been threatened in the last decade.
Statistics have shown that 3/4 of UPND members and supporters are tonga’s and other tribes who hail from southern province.
viva
December 1, 2011 at 8:59 am
its not tribalism, they are just illiterate people,look at tha USA, who thot a black man would rule America, u have have to look at what ideas and policies are on the table please dont go for tribes, whats wrong with tongas? come forget your tribe and see yourself and all people as human beings period!!!!
jef
December 1, 2011 at 9:06 am
Hey do not talk about easterner. Just talk aboout tonga. Who liberated u. We are not tribalist from eastern so stop talking about eastern
The Last Don
December 1, 2011 at 9:07 am
tonga’s will always choose there own! they are very choosy pipo, even among themselves. they are very selective. they are blind followers but they have sexy women…
NKANDU
December 1, 2011 at 9:10 am
FACT;If u scale up the issue of tribal voting,believe u me some regions will never rule at least for the next 30 years also.anso we dont force u pipo to speak bemba.we r very content.but if u cant beat us then u can join us.pls no tribalism.
TOMBA TRIBE
December 1, 2011 at 9:13 am
Ba fikala abatonga mashilu!! Bemba’s rock! lozi’s are smart!! easterners are confused! north westerners e.g bakachokwe nindoshi! Lambas are muzungu wangas!! bembas are also thieves! mixing all them up makes a complete cycle….of the rubbish world we leave in. lets stop pointing fingers, i belong to one of them tribes even…t
messenger
December 1, 2011 at 9:16 am
I am SDA church member. I know my fellow church members (Tongas) very well. But we are family in Jesus Christ our Lord whether Tonga, Bemba, Zulu, Nyamulenge. Believe me you its just time which has seperated us we are all one from the SAME NUCLEAR FAMILY.
Truebantu.
December 1, 2011 at 9:22 am
Ilitrarte? you fool. it’s only tribalisim when southeners vote for UPND and not when PF wins in Nakonde. Look at the facts you *****.
Sparks Chimbwendembwende
December 1, 2011 at 9:24 am
Iwe Chimbwili Kashimaba you are also very tribalistic in your statements!!!! or Is it Kambwili Chishimba!!!
dizhman
December 1, 2011 at 9:28 am
KAMBWILI Condemns COPPERBELT Province Tribal VOTING ‘Even A MONKEY Can Win InCOPPERBELT If It Stood Under PF’
Changwamina
December 1, 2011 at 9:29 am
Am Bemba but i dont support the system like Tongas are voting for tongas hw about Bembas who do they vote for? do they vote for tongas in northern province no. Analyse the statistics then judge. if it is UPND standing in that part of the country is almost Zero marks. They are not fools, they just do that which is done in other provinces. Change everyone then Zambia will be a better place to live in. for Tongas when marginalised, like they will never govern this country one day they will wake and say enough is enough. the desperate mind makes desperate decisions, and it will be a big problem to contend. Ngamulatontonkanya bwino bwino bonse not like ifipuba ifi fwaya inkondo Change your mind sets bonse for one One Zambia One nation. Bakolwe you cant even fight a war you cowards.
dizhman
December 1, 2011 at 9:29 am
KAMBWILI Condemns COPPERBELT Province Tribal VOTING ‘Even A MONKEY Can Win In COPPERBELT If It Stood Under PF’
Changwamina
December 1, 2011 at 9:34 am
please who ever is close to pipo like Kambwili and Sampa who are my ministers please tell them to be responsible not ukule yasamuna utunwa like baiche let the contributuion be mature not like bali mu toilet. if they were brainny enough let them compare what PF got in Magoye last time and what they have gotten this time. there is a big change. utunwa utwabola twionaula party PF. Sata twalefwaya ateke nateka. beacause am Bemba I dont what another bemba Ukuteka that will be useless and careless bakolwe
mukanda
December 1, 2011 at 9:39 am
tongas are not normal.they always think with their tribes and not their brains.as long as u come from southern even if u are a zombie, a dog or frog,u are assured of a parliamentary seat.it was good they pulled out of our pact.they could hv contaminated us.tongas continue living in dream land that yo ka HH wil rule zambia.pf will be in power fo 25 years.hh wiil have died from hiv or cow flu.bafikala.
Georgia Russia
December 1, 2011 at 9:41 am
lupaula,northern,eastern,southern,northwesten have all been voting on tribal lines, its only copperbelt and lusaka that vote on non tribal lines
Austin Lazo
December 1, 2011 at 9:42 am
@Dizhman,you are a dull fool,copperbelt is a mixture of many tribes in urban area,tongas stand on PF and win, not only bembas,look @ the tribes of MP on copperbelt,Tongas are UPND, you dishorn a fellow Tonga when they stand on a different political party,Hon you are right.Even a Dog would win,so long its on UPND ticket in southern provice.
look @ MMD different leaders from different tribes,
MUNYELO PWETE!
December 1, 2011 at 9:45 am
HH HAS MOVED FROM BEING UNDER 5 POLITITIAN TO UNDER 2 POLITICIAN. WATCH HOW THIS BOY IS CRASH LANDING POLITICALLY!! THOSE WHO ARE STIL STUCK TO UPND ARE BEHAVING LIKE BEDBUGS/IFIPUU! WHICH KEEPS ON SUCKING BLOOD EVEN FROM A DEAD ANIMAL! WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER YOU GANKATA DRINKERS!!!
Austin Lazo
December 1, 2011 at 9:51 am
I will never vote fo this tribalist party called UPND & will alway campaign aganist it,full of tribalism.We are in a new generation wake up Tongas. ifimano fya ku mushi ba fikala.You have said it, no non-tonga will lead UPND.So whos the next tonga bullshit to take over after Hakaivotela Heka, expares????
Malchi
December 1, 2011 at 9:52 am
I was very disappointed with Kabwili’s comments. Very TRIBAL. Its a matter of wanting to remove a speck of dust in your brothers eye when you have a LOG in your own. Sir, remove that LOG in your eye so that you can see that speck of dust in the tongas. Nobody complains when UPND loses miserably in the North, Since time in memorial. If you leaders can preach tribalism which is becoming the 74th tribe for the tongas and bembas, what about us the grassroots. We are all Zambians so lets live in harmony. Accept the situation and let God be in control. One day the tongas will vote with the bembas and vice versa
fex fex
December 1, 2011 at 9:55 am
WHY IS IT THAT WHEN ITS SOUTHERN PROVINCE THATS WHEN ITS TRIBALISM. HOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF NAKONDE, WHY DID’NT THEY VOTE FOR UPND. PLEASE REMOVE THE LOG FROM YOUR EYE BEFORE YOU TRY TO REMOVE FROM THE OTHER.
Austin Lazo
December 1, 2011 at 10:01 am
People we are not saying voting on tribal lines as Bembas vote for Easterner in Chisali or chipangali though posible, but party wise.
For example the Late Mwanawasa won seats in Eastern but does not come from there,they never voted for the late General Tembo. Did he win a seat in Southrn??????? simple logic. Accept you are tribalist and the rest of Zambia will never vote for you until you charge…………..
HP
December 1, 2011 at 10:09 am
Why all this? If PF wins in a Bemba land no one would say “tribalism” but UPND win in a tonga land every one stand up to say Tongas are tribal. Ba Kambwilli, you are un reasonable as well.Austin lazo, you are a foolish fool. As for Viva, you are the second foolish fool
vamuselufu
December 1, 2011 at 10:13 am
bakolwe imwe! mwalefwaya bavotele pesa? pa sinking titanic? Balifye bwino, you only vote for someone you have confidence in.
Ku Chongwe they voted for their fellow Soli, so whats wrong with them voting for their fellow Tonga? In nakonde it was the same. So bane lekeni ichitukuko chipitilile pa zed. I want i want to see is people who are willing and able to bring development to this nation. Stop trbalistic messages and please lets talk about development. We all have the right to choose a leader we want and have confidence in.
Muchende
December 1, 2011 at 10:14 am
Oooooooooooook,could Sata pliz train a tonga to take ova as pf President come 2016 then all this rubbish will end
dizhman
December 1, 2011 at 10:21 am
Austin Lazo@ you call me a dull fool.Thts interesting.
MMD
December 1, 2011 at 10:22 am
I love the people of Magoye with a PASSION. Galant sons and daughters of Zambia. Keep it up. Chishimba Kabwili is a tribalist Period- He is against all non-bemba. When Kasama voted for Sata in 2001 and not for the late Mazoka it was not trbal. Of the two sata and late Mazoka; who was a better candidate. Every right thinking person would say Mazoka?? You Bembas are the worst tribalists. Go back to Bemba land and leave us alone. Let us a have a federal state, we will see how you Kolwes will develop. You are lazy at the minimum.
bobby
December 1, 2011 at 10:24 am
HP u are very right!!!when a bemba wins in northern it ok but when a tonga wins in southern its not ok!dont put triblerism in pipos minds when its not there coz for sure it will be there one day.thats just the parten in zambia in terms of election.
Tonga Bull
December 1, 2011 at 10:31 am
Chikambili,
Be realistic Did Nakonde vote for UPND? if u think, u cant say that tongas vote on tribal grounds.Copperbelt,Northen,Estern luapaula province all these dont vote for UPND butPF and MMD so thats wat u Chimbwili regard as not being tribal shame on your illiterace.PF won general elections Y did u not condemn these provinces for not voting UPND.
Lets all as zambians change our habit of voting then will make zambia a gud country.
The big problem is u Bembas hide the wrongs u do and want to expose simple wrongs which tongas do in fact u are a tribe that has brought confusion in this country u re like DRC Kasai pipo
Chisaac
December 1, 2011 at 10:32 am
Chishimba is wrong & he doesn’t deserve to be in office. He is the one who is tribal. He hasn’t complained about Sata’s cabinet composition if he was truly genuine. Where are the Tongas in that family cabinet? Don’t point fingers at others when you are equally guilty. All this nonsense about Tongas being tribal is baseless, the same can be said of other provinces.
Bemba
December 1, 2011 at 10:34 am
@truebantu who told you nakonde is domineted by bemba’s.You should get your facts right.PF used to lose in nakonde,mpulungu becoz mambwes,namwangas & lungus hated bembas 4 being bemba.Now they no vote tribal.Perhaps Tongas should marry these guys instead of bemba women.
CHIMUTI
December 1, 2011 at 10:41 am
As for now i think only PF is a factor and i thought looking at their agenda, any well meaning zambian would support them to do well in parliament.may be that is what the minister thought.upnd is not an issue at all.they r gone forever.if u dont want pf ,we can repeat the elections.weather u like it or not ,dont kubeba will prevail.if u dont like this u get to hell.period.
Sikufele
December 1, 2011 at 10:41 am
Did you hear that when Pieter (Pik) Botha died, he found Steve Biko at the gates of judgement in Heaven. Typical of a racist, he ordered Steve to sit where Blacks were suppose to be because, according to him, the place he was, was reserved for whites only. Unfortuinately Steve reminded Botha that they were at the gates of judgement in heaven and racism and its offshoots were punishable there and Botha would be a victim coz that was God’s domain. Likewise, Lozi, Bemba, Tonga, Ngoni, Luvale, Kaonde, Lunda are all one. There would be tribalism up there. God only knows the 12 tribes that are mentioned in the BIBLE. Zambians please live in harmony. We onlyu have one Zambia, one Nation.
Mesha
December 1, 2011 at 10:43 am
Hakalekefye Hamapolitics
Kasman
December 1, 2011 at 10:51 am
@ Humphrey. You are calling pig low life pigs but iwe chakukalipa becoz they have called bembas thieves and corrupt. How do you imagine tongas feel when you call them, ifipuba, uncivilized, cows and all the name calling you do. The same. They are humans like you. The solution is not to call sex lover and the other person low life pigs but to counsel them. Chiwamina Galu ??
Not cheap tribe
December 1, 2011 at 10:51 am
We re proud of who we are,not cheap,hard working nd we will neva be begger,dat is y u ll neva find any1 saying NDALOMBA MALI,ITS alwayz.”NDELOMBAKO UBWAFWILISHO.why are u hate when we vote 4 our choice?mr sampa n mr kambwili,yes i wud vote 4 a stone coz its better than u.
Sikufele
December 1, 2011 at 10:53 am
Sorry, i meant to say ‘there would be NO tribalism up there. Similarly, i meant to write ONLY and not ONLYU
Worried
December 1, 2011 at 10:53 am
Kambwili’s language is not of a worthy leader. With such leaders in office and busy polarising the country we are headed for trouble one day in this country. Tongas are not ******. For years they have been ruled by people from other provinces, most of whom have been bunches of thieves to say the least. Do you want Tongas to vote for you so that you continue to plunder this country’s wealth? Shame on you Bemba tribalists. And we know that many of you shouting the loudest as Bembas you are not even Bembas but you come from nondescriptly small tribes but you sticking to Bembas like bedbugs, eventually behaving more Bemba than the owners of the tribe. We have intermarriages in this country. So let us not let this tribalism nonsense from you “Bembas” ruin our country. Remember Rwanda!
Sikufele
December 1, 2011 at 10:56 am
Mr Kambwili also, please give us the direction of Zambia’s Foreign Relations not what you are talking about! Leave that to your NEC or whatever you call it!
pac
December 1, 2011 at 10:57 am
Even a dog can win Kasama central under PF any comments Kafwoto or sorry Kambwili. Im PF though
HAMZ
December 1, 2011 at 10:59 am
How come its tribalism when its UPND in southern prov – its goes without sayn that Bemba Land=PF.regionalsm is can be a mere part of life and nothing more than that. even in USA Carlifonia always votes for Democrats while Taxas always votes for Republicans and life goes on. in South Africa Western Cape Province always votes for the opposition Democratic Allaince a white dominated area -and life goes on
Siame
December 1, 2011 at 11:02 am
Take it easy Kambwili (hoe) even in Northen province a Southener can stand against the Frog and lose. All of us need to learn from each other and vote ideologically and not according to regions. Each region must learn to vote even for people from other regions.
Humphrey
December 1, 2011 at 11:06 am
I do not totally agree with the minister.There is no way he can generalise tongas as being tribal.Maybe he should have said most tongas in rural areas are voting on tribal line.If tongas were tribal,how about the over 2 thousand people that voted for the PF candidate?Are they also tribal?Come on guyz,the problem we have here is lack of good leadership qualities on the part of our political leaders.Kambwili should have looked at the results critically before jumping to generalising Tongas as all being tribal.I Listened HH on some programme on ZNBC immediately after the September elections,the man is paranoid.Just imagine, there he was on the National Television saying he was aware what some tribes taught their children not to vote for other tribes because they were the ruling tribe,a clear reference to the Bembas because he went further to condemn the creation of Muchinga province on pretext that it was one way bembas wanted to channel money to the North.Clearly this is the calibre of most of our political leaders we have today.Its Shameful.
Worried
December 1, 2011 at 11:07 am
It is the “Bembas” who were saying this of Mazoka, “Mazoka musuma, nomba umutundu”. If that is not tribalism, please tell us what it is. Give the Tongas a break. And let dogs win in Southern province because they are better than Kambwili. We need decent leadership not cadreism.
Siame
December 1, 2011 at 11:10 am
Ba Kambwili mwebe ba mudala Ba Munkombwa baleke bu muselela kwakaba nabakula.
Tongas bakali
December 1, 2011 at 11:13 am
So you are not even sleeping because of tonga while
you are ruling, the only person who knows want the
Tonga wants is some one from tonga land, you talking of MPs, is the same every were, wait till
we have Tonga President what are going to do, you stop even going to toilet ba kolwe.
Shame
December 1, 2011 at 11:18 am
@ Fex Fex -Are you aware that the FDD candidate for the Nakonde bye-elections Kingsley Siame lost the elections badly despite the party’s president(Edith Nawakwi)coming from that area???
Mesay
December 1, 2011 at 11:31 am
Lets face it, the worst tribalists are Bembas. A Bemba person can stay in North Western, Southern, Western or Eastern for many years and will only speak Bemba. We have for many years tolerated their uncourth behaviour of of using Bemba to speak with a person they have not even met before because to them everyone knows Bemba. I have a lot of friends like that, so cut the crap of labeling others as tribal when u can’t even speak English which is the official language in Zambia! Ma rabishi..
Zero
December 1, 2011 at 11:39 am
So this tribal talk is back again!
Tonga Bull
December 1, 2011 at 11:41 am
Zonda mu Tonga uzalema. Janza kumbele the Zambian Jews.
NGOSHE PA NKOLOKO
December 1, 2011 at 11:59 am
THIS ZAMBIA WILL NEVER ALLOW AT ALL COST TO BE RULED BY A TONGA FOR NEXT 30 YRS OR SO,LOOKING AT THE STATISTCS OF THE TRIBALISM TYPE OF POLITICS BY UPND AND TONGA SPEAKING PROVINCE….
conservative
December 1, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Iwe chi kambwili ikalafye wabe tole chikala chobe banoko ichinyo.Imwe bafikala Bembas have u ever voted for a Tonga?
You costed Mazoka a clear cut win just becos he was Tonga.UPND that time even failed to win a seat in luapula,northern and copperbelt.what are u waffing about.Kambwili you are the worst tribalist i can bet my money the only local language u know is Bemba.
Leave us Tongas alone.
Matako eno bamwaba nwebo bakabwalala banyina maanu.
Miles sampa **** you too for your comment that we should marry u sticking Bemba women amahule.Be careful wat u say *****.