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Sata Disappointed With The Police
SATA
President Michael Sata says he is disappointed with the failure by inspector general of police to take action on people who are inciting to create a state within a state in Western Province.
President Sata says some people in western province have appointed a prime minister and are looking for offices to start running a country yet the police are not doing anything about it.
Mr. Sata says he does not want to involve the Zambia Army because the police are capable of resolving the problem.
He has however, called on defense forces to assist each other in preventing an eminent crime.
The president was speaking on Friday morning at the commissioning parade for one hundred and sixty-four cadet officers at Kohima Barracks in Kabwe.
And the president has revealed that the recalled Zambian diplomat to Canada, Nevers Mumba is inciting pastors on the Copperbelt to revolt against the ongoing constitution making process.
Mr. Sata says Dr. Mumba is telling lies that the new constitution intends to remove the declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation and legalize homosexuality.
ZNBC
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Ntolelefye
December 23, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Our MSC is suffering from alot of disappointments, are things alryt????????
Wapya munzi ka…. Dont regret the appointments you made sir?
it just within the 90 days
bemba tulateka
December 23, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Bulozi sapili, kinako, sha.
SPEAKINGTIME
December 23, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Nevers Mumba…what is your problem? shame on you
Failed PF govt
December 23, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Why being disappointed when you promised the people from western province the release of barotseland so you lied ka???Thou shall not lie
Sankata Wiso Achilipo...!!!
December 23, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Kateka…what are you waiting for??? Creating another state within a state is a serious crime. Fire the Inspector General…!!! Ba Kaufela….just forget about the Barotse Agreement…it will never happen! Dream on! One Zambia, One Nation!
bright
December 23, 2011 at 4:36 pm
what is hapenin to zambia?.where is dnt kubeba,its still 90day.what more 5years???
rabson
December 23, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Mr Presisdent please call upon the chiefs and many other stake holders from Western Province so that we can dialog, Zambia is a unitary state which can not be allowed to degenerate into chaos
rabson
December 23, 2011 at 4:59 pm
United we stand as a nation and divided we fall so the spirit of onesness is th only way to move foraward
Sibbuku
December 23, 2011 at 5:00 pm
It is just a matter of fulfilling your campegn promises and things will settle down. Failing to do so, more dissappointments are still coming. If you have forgotten what you promised, ask HH to remind you. The man is well cultured and can miss very little of whatever you spoke on the pltform. Because if i remember well, you were once political partners.
CURIOUS
December 23, 2011 at 5:05 pm
It seems the President is geting disappointed with so many things that he created himself.What Lozis are trying to do is what they were promised to be given in 90 days.
dnice
December 23, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Now its the police, yesterday it was the ZRA, I wonder who it will be next, his cabinet? who knows, he is already identified a vacuum in leadership amongst some of the PF leaders.
Florence Wachimonahu Dehi
December 23, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I have read the Barotse Agreement 1964 and it does not talk about creation of another state within a state. Or did I miss the Queen’s language?! I doubt. Infact it’s here on Tumfweko, you can also read it.
Sibbuku
December 23, 2011 at 5:24 pm
@ dnice, next it will be the civil servants come 2012.
BC
December 23, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Mr president when some of these people were arrested you condemned the previous got and whilst you were drunk with victory malaria you released them from detention and now you want the same police whom you did not allow to work professionary now to arrest these guy? Just give them what you promised sir. 90 days oooooooo
Kolwestan
December 23, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Constable Sata has finally managed to ditract the nation from his 90 days flop. fyaume!
giddy
December 23, 2011 at 5:52 pm
too much tribalism. These pipo cnt jst accept tht we re one nation.
kaluluta
December 23, 2011 at 6:04 pm
let dem secede so they can share the sandy lands amng thmselvs.we cud v bn worried if it were c/b callin 4 secessiön coz dats wher our econmy’s heartbt is.lozis r jus lyk töngas very selfish n tribal
jeph
December 23, 2011 at 6:19 pm
It is a lesson to one and all wishing to aspire for the office of the president not to lie over certain issues, its not long for him Mr Sata to forget that he promised westerners that their Land will be given to them if at all he wins the Presidency on 20 Sep 2011,and the same system he Condemned of using Police is the same system he also want to use.Take it easy baba.
Sibbuku
December 23, 2011 at 6:24 pm
@kaluluta, let me just correct your wrong perception. The lozi should in fact be commended for their efforts to vote for the current presido. It is only that you bembas dont know how to say thank you. The man seems to have just used the lozi to achieve what he wanted and has now dumped them. What next? is just to reorganise themselves so that they can not bother the government anymore. There is no selfishness there!
Nkisu
December 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Why disappointed when he appointed them? Ba IG mwandekelela! what a crying baby.Not even a year yet in office? Tunkomfwako!
PONONO
December 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm
But i thought you guys do analyze data properly,the man is feeling for the people and wants peace and stability in the country.mind you this man knows all the corners of this nation,he served in kaudunda’s gvt and in chiluba’s,so what he is trying to show you is that he is not easily taken,you seem to be forgetting his nickname as KING COBRA.look at chanda he presented to him half baked information of which he has all the information more than what chanda presented to him. guys lets not push this man too much otherwise we will cry. and when you listen to his speeches he so calm and confident proving to you that he knows more than what you know about this nation(land)so watch out,donch kubeba .lozi’s take your time whoever is funding you will dance to his tune becoz he is not in a hurry to use his powers as president,mind you he is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES,He doesn’t any blood shed like what happened in the previous gvt.please na komba mweninima
Nalumino
December 23, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Create another state within a state is treasonable. Even in America, Europe or anywhere else, those people must be punished and charged. The Barotse activtists have a chance to dialogue and WP will get what it wants Not Threats about separating from the child you created..Zambia. Mind soon there will be a rail line from Lobito bay passing through Sikongo, Kalabo, Mongu, Kaoma and Mumbwa to Lusaka. The Chinese will soon be doing a feasibility study. Another thing – a feasibility study on the most western road in Zambia, passing through Shangombo, Sikongo, Lukulu West, Zambezi West to Chavuma. The government will soon announce other major investments in WP including Universities, modern sport facilities, schools and others. These so called separatists are just after our diamonds,oil and uranium. After NWP, the government is wooing investors for WP. So my brothers be patient good things are coming our way. Mind Rome was not built in a day
Kaluluta
December 23, 2011 at 7:35 pm
@sibbuku,wat wrong perceptiön do i hav abt Lozi.For yo info am nöt bemba.hw do u support creatiön of a state withn a state.it is u wh is shalow_minded
Dissector
December 23, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Frustrated lozis keep on dreaming as we forge ahead.ni one zambia one nation
Lunte
December 23, 2011 at 7:46 pm
I will restore Barotseland Agreement 1964 within 90 days, that was the promise by Hemcs, President RB is laughing at this trial and error type of governance
kamenga D
December 23, 2011 at 8:07 pm
please give sata time to govern, lozi please be real and stop those nosense
mungo
December 23, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Appoint them en u shall knw them
atm
December 23, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Mr sata I am disappointed with u. It western province which put u in that seat. Pliz appreciate the pipo of western province. U are putting us in an okwad position us northeners who are working here in wp and we campaigned for u. Pliz stik to what u said no recession but share the national cake equally. Hon mubukwanu, bo ma inonge pliz advice the man I voted for and campaigned for as a civo servant. Bring development and pipo will stop all the rubbish. Why did u appoint the commission to look into the killings? Awe mwilatusebanya shikulu. If u knew how to use a computer u would have changed coz u would have seen how we love u. I am yet to regret why I voted for u.
onej
December 23, 2011 at 8:25 pm
me am failing to undastand these pipo. if u r being promised to be given something n now u r in a hurry to av it. then u desid to get it on ur own n u r cot. can u blem the one who promised 4 not giving u. did sata said he wil nt giv them. the bemba say ukapanya ne cokwete.
mbuya
December 23, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Certainly RB is having the last laugh.
Politicians be carefull what you promise to get to plot one.
This is the 21st Century where you do not depend on some newspaper to get information.
Citizens are more enlightened now than they were 10 years ago.
Do NOT shift ‘goal posts’ on the 90 days promises.
I repeat, DO NOT SHIFT GOAL POSTS.
SWING VOTER has spoken!!!!
Kas-k
December 23, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Hw far does ya land stretch Litunga?? kaufela… Dis is nat specific, tha man myt ve meant tha whole country…
atm
December 23, 2011 at 8:45 pm
@ nalumino. Mwachosa data I am humbled. Let mc communicate and if that’s the case let the police deal with the funders and not the innocent poor lozis. Pipo there is poverty pa western
Wanu Ngwee
December 23, 2011 at 8:45 pm
PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR SAYING THIS: Sometime last month, I had a very hostile reponse from bloggers on LT for suggesting that the circumstances that may have led the British Royalty to appeasing one sector of our community, namely our brothers and sisters in Western Province, by signing the Barosteland Agreement no longer exist and we should now all put this Agreement behind us and as live together as equals in all 9 (now ten) provinces of Zambia. I also suggested that we accord the same recognition to the Litunga as we do to the Mpezenis, Mwata Kazembes, Chiti Mukulus and all other chieftainships in the country. Personally, I do not think the Barotseland Agreement is implementable in today’s Zambia and let’s just accept that the status quo shall never change. Now, today we’re hearing of people appointing a “prime minister” and trying to establish their own government. This is because none of the Presidents we’ve had so far has been forthright and passed a decree on this matter; BAROTSELAND SHALL NEVER COME TO PASS, PERIOD!! AND WE MOVE ON!!
Child of the Sky
December 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm
I have been so annoyed only once before. That is when my sister called me from Mongu – that cannisters were dropping all over her yard, and that copters were chasing youths all over the bushes. This is the second time. What evidence do sane people and the international community require to realise that genocide is about to be committed. These are the telltales we saw prior to the Tutsi – hutu genocide. Sakeni and malama would be only be seen to be doing their jobs when guns are blasted and children and women are killed and/ or maimed in Bsrotseland. The combination is good – Sakeni and Malama.
concern citizen
December 23, 2011 at 9:55 pm
people just shut your mouths and your constipated brains, some of you, your fathers have not even been in leadership. why porking your stinking noses on the presidents business? its like you are suffering from the diarrhea mouths. just keep quiet and give him time to rule, you dogs
concern citizen
December 23, 2011 at 10:02 pm
so you poor lozis, you want to rule yourselves? thats being ****** and if you want to continue with that! am pret sure you will finish very fast. muzania.
Govt of Monkeys in a Maize Field
December 23, 2011 at 10:13 pm
I dont know if Lozi’s deserve any sympathy when they dug their own grave.
They voted for Sata against Wina’s strong advice not to do so in the mistaken beleif that he will ‘restore’ their so called BRE64 agreement, now he will fix them to the end. Am sure Malama and Sakeni are getting ready for them in order to preserve thier jobs.
Nakulu Bantu
December 23, 2011 at 10:17 pm
MWE BANA, BUSHE ICI CINTU MULETI BALOSE AKILIMENTI BALOSE AKILIMENTI, E CINSHI? BUSHE CAKULYA?
khinakho
December 23, 2011 at 10:18 pm
On 18th May 1964, The Barotseland Agreement was reached and signed in London as a prelude to Zambian independence. The Agreement transferred all the obligations and rights contained in treaties and concessions between the British government and Barotseland to the new State of Zambia.
Section 8 of the Agreement did not empower the legislature of Zambia to legislate for Barotseland, laws which were inconsistent with the provisions of the Agreement.
6th August 1964, Dr. Kenneth Kaunda, Prime Minister of Northern Rhodesia later addressed the Barotse National Council concerning the Barotseland Agreement which was to come into force on 24th October 1964.
(a) That it is the government’s full intention that the Barotseland Agreement will be honoured fully after independence.
(b) That the government has no wish to interfere with the day to day running of the internal affairs of Barotseland. This is the responsibility of the Barotse government and the intention of the Central Government will be no more than to give the Barotse Government its maximum assistance and co-operation.
(c) That the customary rights in Barotseland will remain with the Litunga, National Council and the District heads of Kutas. He added that “the government is satisfied that government requirements for land for development projects in Barotseland will receive the active co-operation of the Barotse government, this is all the Central Government is asking for…..”
in Sept 1964, Kaunda wrote to the Litunga in which he stated his Government’s commitment to honour the Agreement saying that:
“the 1964 Agreement was the result of careful discussion and consultation between Her Majesty’s government, the government of this country and yourself and that it would be inappropriate to re-open discussions after all the parties had signed the Agreement in acceptance. I think we should all now concentrate on the implementation of the Agreement in the spirit with which it was made.”
It was never implemented.
(extract from: The Long walk of Barotseland to Freedom by Namushi Nyambe and pubished by Bulozinahayaluna Facebook)
From the above, we can say that the barotseland agreement was not mearnt to finjish the barotse state, or barotseland Government, but was mearnt to give legality to the unity of barotseland and northern rhodesia in forming the soverignity of Zambia. however, the Barotse government which kaunda mentions here, and with empahsis that Central Government would not intefere in its running would continue through the barotseland agreement.
so when people say that the barotseland agrement was not mearnt to create a state within a state, they dont know what they are saying.
The barotseland agreement empowers the Litunga, the ngambela and the barotse national Council, to govern bartotseland without the interference of ANYONE. NO ONE.
However, at the moment, since the barotseland agreement is not legal document in zambia nand has been abrogated, it is just normal, for the people of barotseland to institute their own Governmet because the only law that makes barotseland to be part of zambia is the barotseland agreement..
kalulete
December 23, 2011 at 11:35 pm
guys clik patuma photo and comment
Mc
December 23, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Sorry khinakho I thnk thr is somethng wrong with da barotseland agreemnt u hav uploaded da one I read talks abt da developmnt da country zambia shud be taking to da wp and da one I ready says everywhere da rail line has passed dats where da demacation of zambia and barosteland shud be. And it ddnt say wp wll be granted da permission of making a state in another state. I think google.
Munshimwatala
December 24, 2011 at 12:23 am
Mr president when some of these people were arrested you condemned the previous got and whilst you were drunk with victory malaria you released them from detention and now you want the same police whom you did not allow to work professionary now to arrest these guy? Just give them what you promised sir. 90 days oooooooo
Why disappointed when he appointed them? Ba IG mwandekelela! what a crying baby.Not even a year yet in office? Tunkomfwako
Bigbums
December 24, 2011 at 3:47 am
Pipo lets give Pf enough time to govern.Some of the campaign promises have been fulfilled by Pf.To my mbuyas in WP pliz be patient development has already started.Don’t be decieved.We are one Zambia One Nation.
PROTOCOL OFFICER
December 24, 2011 at 4:23 am
Who told him? Police and intelligence. Where? Lusaka. About WP. So why was tell soldiers in CP Kabwe about Lsk Province and WP police disappointments when he lives with police and Dr Malama in Lusaka everyday? He was trying to be good to soldiers for his earlier wrongs he said including a coup by accusing the police. Kubwabwata. Kwitailatu, mbuya. When one fails it is acceptable to resign and be a hero like Mandela.
ba zambia
December 24, 2011 at 8:12 am
PIPO do u know that these wars we hear from other countries starts just like this?. lozi what do u want.
Hisman
December 24, 2011 at 8:27 am
President Michael Chameleon Sata [MCS] – you turn around like somebody on a bad bed! You promised the people of Western Province that when you come into power; you will let them get what is theirs! Nomba bane mwalachinja shani nakabili?!!!!! You are a shame Mr. President! And for Mumba – He is right; we know what PF is trying on doing and we will not sit and watch you bring decay to our society by allowing homosexuality in this land of God. Zambia is a Christian Nation and will remain so forever – so we will be guided not by UN or PF rules – but by the Word of the Creator. The manual from the God we are under – Bible. If God punished Sodom and Gomorrah – then this LGBT nonsense should end!
Hisman
December 24, 2011 at 8:31 am
Bigbums: Koyeya kabotu and act accordingly!
chief bootlicker
December 24, 2011 at 8:56 am
SATA is kissing his own anus now.you painted a black picture on RB promising lozi’s liberation.wailasha weenyoooo matako yako yaonekela manje give ceizer what belongs to ceizer.chipangano chinadula mutu yohane bwana..
LELONILELO
December 24, 2011 at 9:04 am
BAROTSE(KINAKO)
Gunslinger
December 24, 2011 at 9:18 am
Shoot them before they grow !