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‘SATA’s U-Turn On BRE Casts Doubt On The PF’s Fulfilment Of Promises’
Bishop Mususu
Bishop Mususu says it is important for political leaders to live up to the promises they make during campaigns.
He says politics can only inspire the voters once politicians live up to the promises they make when asking voters to vote for them during campaigns.
Bishop Mususu says it is disappointing to note that the PF raised the hopes of the people of western province on the Barotseland agreement only to change its position.
He says it is a fact that the victory of the Patriotic Front in the 2011 elections can be partly attributed to the promise the party made on the Barotseland agreement.
Bishop Mususu says the leadership in the Patriotic Front government should ensure that corrective measures are made on the Barotseland agreement.
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Trappa
March 2, 2012 at 8:42 am
Why ar lozis so bloody selfish, y brek off frm th country???…if i wher th president i woudnt gv me baroste land but i wud cut off western province, they keep whinin lyk they are babies, their bloody ancestorz grew up n died part of zed, y brek off nw
Copara pa CB
March 2, 2012 at 9:00 am
I also doubt if PF will fulfill the promises. They are changing slowly . But they should remember that we voted them for battering Zambian people.
pabwato
March 2, 2012 at 9:01 am
Ba Bishop…twapapata. You read the BRE and show me were it talks abt Secession…..
alien
March 2, 2012 at 9:02 am
this ishu agen…
EVANZ
March 2, 2012 at 9:04 am
I want to know the boundary for the claimed barose land bcoz the agreement does not mention of the boundary and so as long as it does not mention of the boundary then the claim is baseless and it wont go anywhere. you lozis can bet me any amount.
Tonga Bull
March 2, 2012 at 9:07 am
this government is just like a circus and its full of clowns. they have made so many U-TURNs. there is no country where people govern like this. SYCHO MATA and your fellow baffoons CHAINAMA mental hospital is waiting for you.
Dothi
March 2, 2012 at 9:12 am
I thought bishop mususu is very much learned to know the diference btn a promise and a covenant. A promise can be altered while a covenant cannot. So the BRE issue is very sensitive and requires thorough consultation on how to handle it. Promising is another thing while implementation isa another. How does he think the PF govt should just fulfill the promise without consulting all the chiefdoms the so called Litunga included in the agreement without consulting them. Have these chiefdoms consented to be part of Barotse Country? What will happen to other big chiefdoms in the country like Ngonis,Chewas , Bembas etc who have big territerial coverage of traditional governance which spill over to contries like malawi, mosambiki, tanzania, etc. When they request for a session what will remain of Zambia? Bola panshi. Do not rush things. Let us be mindful and not just brag for the sake of making a name.
Exhaust Blown Diffuser
March 2, 2012 at 9:14 am
Ok the PF now realize they had bitten off more than they can chew with all those campaign promises..These lozis now that they have lumwana and kansanshi now they want to break away, so selfish..KK was right to say one Zambia one nation now some people want to break away for selfish reasons mostly..Economists advise if the barotseland agreement is granted will they survive as a country or will they will just accumulate massive debts..Lets talk about developmental ideals and not such crap
Lozi Bull
March 2, 2012 at 9:14 am
People,
U’re now in my territory,”Kraal”.
May u contribute positively,else,i wil hook out.
We want development in western,that’s all.
Kwasila,kaufela “Pa Bwato Cabe”.
Thanks in advance,
Litimbwa.
respect
March 2, 2012 at 9:21 am
what is this am reading in today’s post page 14!!! no more than 4% salary increment 4 gvt workers? am not basin on BRE, but its true it is casting a doubt wethether pf wl stick to promises. is that more money in the pocket?? these are jokes lets b realistic
Snr.citizen
March 2, 2012 at 9:25 am
Lubata feela development kwasila onacwalo mwa bulelezi minange fa litilimbwa. Separation is too late we have children in between us.
Lozi Bull
March 2, 2012 at 9:27 am
In one’s life time,it’s normal to make U-turn on certain issues which seems to be sensitivity.
Sata,& his advisers,are just like u,despite that,they are in higher position.
In short,they’re entitled,& @ liberty to make changes on whatever they think.
But,they should be aware of the consequences.
I’ve Zambezi River in my Kraal,
“Bakaloba ilyauma”
1 zambia,1 nation advocate
March 2, 2012 at 9:33 am
fact,lozi’s cannot decide to hav their own country on their own…it requires a national conscesus.we hav lozis evrywhere in zambia jst like we hav people frm aza tribes in western province.what happens to these people,what happens to inter-tribal marriages and the offsprings of such marriages? This barotse issue is much much bigger than hw we are putting it. Suppose barotse became a country,are the pipo on the copperbelt or those in kanyama in lusaka going to accept to be under a lozi king? Already,there are divisions withn western province in kaoma sayng they are not part of the barotse issue. The point is if the agreement entails development in the area, then i urge the government to restore it but if it is about a new country, then i do not blame the government for their reluctance. Again, be reminded that for development to come to that area, the people from their should bury their ancient habit of saying ‘our land’ and embrace investors who have been denied chances to invest in this land. If i am not mistaken, western province is the only province where a person from another province would have extreme headache to find i peace of land to settle or invest on. How do you develop like that? Even their well educated daughters and sons have settled and invested in other parts of the country. Lets continue to pray for peace and unity in our beautiful God-blessed Zambia. ONE ZAMBIA, ONE NATION
Booty Arse
March 2, 2012 at 9:39 am
Ba Mususu mwikalefye. Why is that Kaunda, Chiluba, Mwanawasa and Banda never even talked about this issue. We need to give credit to our President coz he has even an effort to publish the Barotse Agreement and also constitute an inquiry to establish what led to the killing and maiming of the people of western province. The Barotse Agreement issue is not an easy issue that can be sorted out like that. Muleikalefye is there is nothing to say. I BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS A BIG PLAN FOR THIS COUNTRY AND VERY SOON FRUITS SHALL BE SEEN.
Jason chakwaba
March 2, 2012 at 9:51 am
BRE is not somthng wch wil determin wearther th pf is workng o not,how wud it b if evry tribe in zambia claimed 4 a portion in zambia?i bliv not o wud reciv a portion n confusion wud rise,ths is zambia 4 all tribes n lets hv a zambia 4 evry zambian equaly,lozi brothers n sisters lets 4get it n b 1 we love u
GUN
March 2, 2012 at 9:52 am
You shouldve read the agreement before opening your mouth and tell lies,see now you have lost w province to the oposition jst like rb did.Mulesamwa namano ba swine.
Snr.citizen
March 2, 2012 at 9:53 am
Yes 1 Zambia 1 nation advocate, you are right we have mansions and a lot of businesses in Lusaka, Copperbelt and Southern provinces etc. we are married and living happily with other tribes we do not want anyone to disturb our peace, at the same time we want our families in the W/province enjoy the same privileges other provinces are enjoying so that when we visit them we should find roads and transport to reach to their places.
Mafaa, Mafaa
March 2, 2012 at 10:01 am
bishop, shud politicians keep their political promises whetha they r rite or wrong simply bcoz they made them even at the expense of national unity. mayb we need to be toler
kateka
March 2, 2012 at 10:08 am
1 zambia 1 nation u are very right un r 100 time more of a human being than that mususu chap
muse
March 2, 2012 at 10:15 am
Its true the BRE is not an issue ONE would just say I restore withuot giving it much thought,as for traditional land I feel govt has always respected that in all parts of the country, thats why i can go to chief mwamba of NP and ask for a piece of land and i will get it.If want govt land i would go to council.lets talk about devt ba bishop! not one zambia 2,3,4 or 5 nations.Even the 4% thing lets be patient thereis the tax rebate,lets wait and see.
Snr.citizen
March 2, 2012 at 10:29 am
@muse 4% mwana ayo ni matuka, already we are going through a lot of hardships we tried to be patient with a lot of respect to our pf new gvt we can not be treated like this, however we shall wait as you have put it, to be honest K40,000 cannot even buy exercise books and pens for my children.
BEAUTY
March 2, 2012 at 10:46 am
I CANT GET MARRIED 2 A LOZI NO MATTER WAT COZ THEY ARE TOO SELFISH…NINSHI MWABELA IFI MWEBA LOZI,BUFONTINI NANGU NINSHI,BE CIVILISED LIKE EASTERNERS AND BEMBAS
Overcomers
March 2, 2012 at 11:13 am
More money in your pockets 4% salary increament across the board period. Watalika you out of employment mambala. VIVA pabwato. House rental increased 80% Commodities and neccessities raise over 50% and dollar further weakens to K5700 fuel shortages. Cabbinet reshafles hey hey hey pabwato. I have no problem with the barotse issue akantu ni mutimba bane bushe muli impiya nangu ama frustrations yeka yeka.
Overcomers
March 2, 2012 at 11:15 am
Oh my friends i meant mutumba not “mutimba” bushe muli promose fulfilment nangu frustrations?
barotseland mst be free
March 2, 2012 at 11:16 am
why gv fake promises zn u rush 2 be prayd 4 en quickly say ul govern by 10 commandments.which 10 commandments?commandments of tellin lies?z judgement day z kamin.cot in yo trap.sleepless nyts.viva chanda chimba.
Watchman
March 2, 2012 at 11:30 am
One zambia one nation,let us develop that place.i can help develop.
Lyondo lya ng'uwa
March 2, 2012 at 11:32 am
Ka ‘Ugly’ or ka ‘beauty’ as you call yourself, Lozis are not your Mbuyas for you to insult them like that. It explains why you are still single at 38 years old. Rodger Chongwe is not a lozi and is a very highly recognised lawyer both within and without the borders of Zambia. Be level headed and study the issues at hand. What these pipo are crying for is nothing but development. For your own info, the BRE gave this govt 78million British Pounds at independence in 1964. It is this money that was used to build most of the post independence structures you see around. Now when they cry for development you say mafontini and that they are selfish. Get a life and be serious for once. This issue is delicate.
MANU4LIFE
March 2, 2012 at 11:38 am
iliko bad, ba PF baona manje kuti running a government is very different from running a single sourced political party.
GUN
March 2, 2012 at 11:55 am
Only frustrated human beings insult lozis,go and hang ba i.diot,lozis use their brains when you use your mouths.
Snr.citizen
March 2, 2012 at 12:27 pm
People insult when they are frustrated it is true, they want to contribute but they do not understand the topic or they never had time to read or pay any attention to what the topic is all about, to Beauty bunde bwa liemu,but nothing in the head just shut yo beck if u have no ideas of BA 64. What did you contribute towards the development of the country? Barotse land gave Zambian Government 78 million pounds to develop Zambia u understand we are not selfish as you are saying if we had wanted we would have used that money to develop W/Province can you respect us and let gvt honor their promise by developing W/P. Can you tell me or give me a figure from any province which gave the Zambian gvt that lots of money.
Lozi Bull
March 2, 2012 at 12:30 pm
So far,so good.
I’m impressed with all of u,except;
Uyu mwana Beauty.
As I said earlier,let’s contribute positively.
Ni Development cabe,”Kwasila”.
@Beauty,for u to say a lot abt Lozi’s,u’ve seen a lot,& gone out with a lot of men especialy “Ama Lozi”.
“Wee ule we”.naupwa imitundu shonse.
I feel pity for u.
susuka
March 2, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I HAVE READ THE BA OF 1964 CAN SOME ONE QUOTE A SECTION WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE BOUNDARY OF NORTHERN RHODESIA AND BAROTSE LAND, AM COMPLETELY LOST…
BISHOP MASUSU YOU ARE A MAN OF GOD, JESUS SAID GIVE TO CEASER WHAT IS FOR CEASER AND GIVE GOD WHAT IS FOR GOD. AND THE BAROTSE ISSUE BELONGS TO CEASER. I STAND TO BE CORRECTED,,,,
MEN OF GOD THESE DAYS WHAT TO ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH POLITICS.. NOT AT ANY POINT IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS ALIGNED HIMSELF WITH POLITICS,,,,,,,,
ONE SUSUKA
Mampala
March 2, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I agree with you GUN!
Mooba
March 2, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Why blamin a man who atleast formed an enquiry to look in the matter.4 previas prisedents they state house this unattended too.dnt insite people lets jst enjoy hamorn we have.
umuntu for Zambia
March 2, 2012 at 1:00 pm
one zambia one national is ok,if the PF gov,gives the LOZI a land he is going to give us too. Belive me or not,when the forest is quit do not through the pices of trees on it please, please, please…………
shax da vapour
March 2, 2012 at 1:37 pm
imwe ba fikala,leav our president alone.sata sata vichani,tok abt yo poverty and lazines.look at yoselfs and note what positive things u v dan.who askd u to vote for sata?tok abt yo fathers and nt other pipo.do you thnk sata is god to please each one of u.u wil criticiz until u die coz come 2016,pf wil pull thru.if u wnt vote fo them, they ll rig and u wil be left toking.morons
patriotic zambian
March 2, 2012 at 4:11 pm
My dear brothers and sisters. Lets debate or contribute to issues with respect,integrity and understanding.The issue of BA 64 does’nt entail secession but equal distribution of development and to some extent political power. What entails secession is failure to restore it i stand to be corrected. God bless u all. viva one zambia one nation.
Ama Facts
March 2, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Politics! Sata had the whole time to think about the BRE.He should have thought about this issue long before making those promises and raising people’s hopes. I salute all the other leaders who didi not talk about because they knew they did not have a solution to it. Saa took advantage of the people by raising their hopes which resulted into numerious votes. I knew that he was not going to honor his promise on the BRE.Its politics people. You only realize it when you have already ushered them into their desired offices.